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Fundies Say the Darndest Things! April
2004 Edition 46 posts nominated this month!
"And all that 88% [premarital sex] stat shows is that
most teenagers are evil/liars, tell me something I don't know. " "I love logic like this [religion doesn't need or
deserve public assistance]. Why should homosexuality need or deserve public
assistance??? oooooooooh. Right. By this logic it doesn't.. Which way are we
going to have it, because this faulty interpretation of the separation of
church and state isn't going to hold water for much longer under these
conditions." "Well, I think it's pretty simple, really.. You're the
first one to scream bloody murder when someone preaches Christianity in
schools. 'Oh! The HORROR!!!!' I don't see you uttering a word when it's
homosexuality being preached in schools. Nice double standard. What a joke.
What a fraud." "I told you Firsch, as I'll tell everyone else. The
homosexual campaign and the 'separation of church and state' campaign are
complete and total frauds and I will point it out." "Homosexuality IS a topic in schools. Just because you
don't want to believe it doesn't make it so. It has come up in as an issue
at my children's public school. I suppose, of course, that you've been to
every school and you just have all this down pat?" "By God's standards, is letting your pet lick/kiss
you considered beastiality?... Sometimes pets like dogs and cats like to
show affection by coming up and licking or giving you a nudge on the face
and what not. Do you think that letting your pet do this qualifies as
beastiality?" "Atheists See No Problem With Human To Animal Sex" "Atheists See No Problem With Human To Animal Sex... In response to a question about human to animal sex being illegal: Atheist one...: Q. Why have laws preventing men from bedding sheep? A. Because they smell bad. Atheist two [asked if it should be legalized]...: Who would
be harmed?" "[The reason I object to beastiality is] God's law -
what is yours?" "And I would rather be sexually abused than killed and
eaten - how about you. Beside how do you know that Ms. Sheep doesn't like
what farmer Brown is doing...? Take a male dog with a woman - that dog is
not being tortured - he can't wait. Really chsalvia you have to get over
these puritian moral notions..." "Now give me one reason why it should be
unlawful..." "But all you are saying is that the majority finds
human to animal sex objectionable. Well the majority finds homosexual
marriage objectionable. So I guess you are with us on the gay marriage
thing..." [After a Freemason initiation ceremony with a gun and
'blanks' results in accidental death] "And not to bring this up... "I agree! This is how those people are working.......
Those numbers are meaning everythiung to them. Otherwise they will not
succeed in their plans. Agood plan is always done with these kind of
numerology." "One person was shot and killed today at a meet of
Masonic people in America today along with the suicide bombings in Turkey
which have killed at least three.... coincidence or is something going on
here?" "i've always wondered what atheists thought about the
orgin of life. the origin of everything. since various harvard, ivy league,
big name professors and scientists have said that all evidence points toward
a supreme being yet they choose not to believe there is a god because the
notion seems 'absurd' 'preposterous', etc. they just refuse to believe
it." *** "Not Copy-Pasted From Landover Baptist, Honest" Prize *** "The left-wing Republican Party is now
anti-Constitution, anti-Bill of Rights, anti-God, anti-Bible, pro-abortion,
pro-homosexual, pro-illegal immigration, and does nothing about the
Stalinist genocide and nuclear WalMart in North Korea and nothing about the
nuclear terrorist threats from Iran and Pakistan. The Consitution Party [website]
is now snowballing into the true voice of Conservatism untainted by the drug
addicts and antisemites of the Libertarian Party." "I'm writing a letter to [former Alabama judge Roy]
Moore asking him to run [for President]. We need his leadership, and great
constitutional knowledge in our country." "I saw this [atheist political] group on CSPAN. What a
pathetic bunch of losers. It was both sad and laughable. They seemed rather
confused." "They need mega-PRAYER!! That is such a sad life, not
having God...what exactly else is there to live for?????? Nothing I can
think of." "I may be wrong, but I feel that Kerry wants to be
president to feed his ego, not because he has any great plans for America or
any noble agenda to move the nation forward." "I agree. Kerry reminds me of the rich private school
type to the letter. You know, ‘Lance’ the cool dude on the rowing team,
popular with the ‘in’ crowd and shallow as a puddle." "It was only a matter of time [before atheists started
a political action committee]. They will now have even more clout in
Washington." "Hubble Space Telescope Looks Back to Edge of 'Big
Bang'... Yeah, right. We all know that the Big Bang Theory goes against
the laws of thermodynamics and entropy." "Your professor may be just the type of scientist that
the devil uses to decieve others." "Even Christians can be deceived if they allow Satan to
deceive them... I certainly wouldn't put my faith in any of these
scientists. They are likely the same kind of scientists that believe that
the universe was created by chance." "My Biology professor consantly assumbes evolution to
be true and law. The lecture is once a week, and for the rest of the
semester, we will be learning about evolution. Ugh. I've asked many
questions in class, and I never get any real answers. My favorite is when I
asked her about the current idea that we are only separated from fish
because our DNA decided to make more Amino Acids by chance." "This article is the perfect example of how scientists
push their garbage religion. They call it THEORY, yet every where you look
in books and articles they present it as FACT. Same is true of
evolution." "You're kidding yourself if you think this is about
'formal language' [i.e., the scientific definition of 'theory'] as opposed
to Satan doing what he has done, according to Scripture, from DAY ONE, which
is to get man to question whether what God said is true or not. I don't
simplyfy Satan or his tactics, (which he's spent millenia dreaming up), that
way. It's only one step removed from admitting he isn't real." "Who cares about secular archaeology... secular
archaeology would deny lifespans of 900+ years for most of the Genesis 5
patriarchs too, so who gives a monkey's? But it's hardly surprising that
Morton puts secular archaeology about Biblical history, since he puts
uniformitarian 'science' above the Bible too." *** Bizarre Creationist Assertion of the Month *** "When I was reading all these posts, I remembered
something I learned of a christian radio program. Sin causes death, it is
the reason things decay and die. So couldn't the reason that the earth seems
older than it is be from sin?" "I know that, but wasn't the earth cursed because of
adam & eve. Before they sinned, they were in the garden, no doubt the
earth didn't appear old and decrepit then." "President Bush is right to call for a Constitutional
amendment... The Homosexuals are out of control and they should be put in
jail for civil disobedience, along with the mayors and judges who have
permitted this disgrace called Homosexual marriage to go on for the past few
weeks. Fellow believers, please pray for our country. We have become Sodom
and Gomorrah and I beg God to have mercy on us. Amen." "But Gay Marriage is not a right Marriage itself is a
religious ceremony... I doubt gay people could be religious anyway..." "I am rational rational by knowing ultimate truths...
and that homosexaulity is a sin i know people who have struggled with it I
know God hates it ....I know its wrong and at least i hold that conviction
beyond a matter of a doubt no matter what bible scholars tell me [about
those verses condemning temple prostitution or pedophilia instead of
homosexuality in general]" "i dont beleive in greek i beleive in english but there
is no undisputed translation even the original greek is fought over so why
should i spend more time... when you got hell for being homosexaul what will
you do then..." "ok im sorry for calling you thick skulled its
just.....sheesh...I cant beleive the stupidity and mule like ness of some
people who dont want to accept the truth" "mhm gay marriage is not a right marriage is a religious thing your yourself being a atheist should have no want for anything to do with marriage you being a atheist should know that homosexaulity makes
those people not causing population so they should deserve no
rights...." "Marriage was invented by religion its roots are
religious and the majority of americans are religious and Against Gay
marriage they have tthe right to protest against it and to protect it from
change. It is not a right and it is not phsyically hurting anybody to not
allowed to be married...." [After ancient Sumerian secular marriages are mentioned]
"if it were a ecenomic arragment it wouldnt be called marriage" "No marriage didnt exist before religion the first
marriage was between adam and eve and they where the first humans in
creation now you can say that you might be able to track down in old history
marriage but it wont be before this marriage..." "But why should america which is %75 against
homosexaulity give them more liberty than is there basic modern
rights." "But seriously, I have a bit of a quandry calling it
marriage. Call it something else. 'Queerage,' or something like that." "I have a question. What about 'bi-sexulas'? What's
next....bi-sexual 'rights'? Would it be okay for a bi-sexual to 'marry' a
'male' and a 'female'?" "The spirit, will lead you if you hold steadfast,
considering almost all religions are based on the God of Moses, even
offshoot Pagan Gods, then it should be evident with discernment that Christ
is the Lord." [Replying to "A righteous person would survive a
head-on car wreck?"] "A righteous man would have angels watching
over him. He would have protection. He would remain intact. Of course the
question is, just how many people are actually righteous before God. " "'The Genesis Flood', is a huge, fat scientific book
irrefutable* by scientific heathens,
even." * In creationist-speak, "irrefutable" generally means "debunked for decades." "Are you a scientific heathen?... 'Scientific
heathen' has such a nice ring to it, don'tcha think? Read & refute 'The
Genesis Flood', if you consider yourself a scientific heathen. It's a huge,
fat, veddy scientific book, irrefutable by scientific heathens or anyone
else, for that matter. Or dismiss this as facetious, if your imploded brain
will allow such a thing." "it's an old, irrefuted book from the early 70's. Check
it out at the library." "Second Coming Imminent? It's Time to Get Serious
About Warning Non-Believers! We all know that that feeling is in the air
again! And this time it's not just a simple feeling of dejahvu, it actually
feels very very real and prophetically based...! Jesus surrounded himself by
sinners and witnessed to them, and that's exactly what I've been doing for
over a year now at one place in particular on the Internet: The Apolyton
Off-Topic Forum. I've been a member at this site for almost 3 years and I've
never seen another forum site that has so many members that have lost their
grip on religion and morality; even the site's admins and moderators are
very very delusional." "Kent Hovind... Have any of you heard of him? He
has many teachings on creation verse everything else. He talks all that
science stuff. I cant remember his website but hes got the best teaching
I've heard on anything like that." "I dont really know anything about science stuff to be
honest. not too interested in learning. I know what I know is right. God
made the world and everything in it and now I'm writing you." *** Least Helpful Analogy of the Month *** [Replying to "I wouldn't want to be friends with somebody who locked people up in his basement and tortured them."] "But if the person who locked you up in the basement
gave you a choice to accept his love or be locked up, which would you
choose?" "So you reject God's love and eternal life, prefer to
give him the finger and be locked up instead, then blame Him for your
decision. There are so many contradictory statements in this answer that
further arguing is like arguing with an irrational man. You have just
negated most of your points because you have contradicted them all. You have
no leg to stand on." "The difference is a maniac chainsaw killer, does not
love you, does not care about you and probably just wants to kill you.Maniac
chainsaw killers also did not create the universe and everything in it
including YOU!" *** Topic of the Month, a.k.a. "AMTRAK Collision of a Thread" Award *** [The following discussion on Rapture Ready more or less speaks for itself. Especially note the (il)logic of the first two posts.] "Tonight when I watched Jack Van Impe he talked
about... 2011 for the very soon rapture maybe! FIRST, NOBODY KNOWS BUT GOD!
BUT, if it were the year, does that sound like soon to you?! I realize the
word soon [in the Bible] is ambiguous, but still I can't accept soon as
being 7 yrs down the road!" "soon to me in like..the next few months or a
year...but I'm not God so soon to Him may be tomorrow night or 50 years...
He gave us plenty of clues though and if I had to say....soon is soon..not
in 2011" "I don't think 2011 will be the time of the Rapture, if
anything 2011 may be the time of the Second Coming... Of course I can't
speculate anymore than Jack can, but that's not soon and God has given me a
sense to actually get stuff done on my site [link]...
I now have 3 pages in my left behind section. I don't know if that means
anything, but it's like God is telling me 'Get this done before you do
anything else on your site.'" "If the Rapture is immenient than it could be tonight -
right? I look for His soon coming for His church to be sooner then you think
- like any day now He can come - that's what immeniency means isn't it...?
If it's 'silly' and childish so be it. I'm so glad to have this joy and
enthusisam for His soon return. What a Blessed Hope we have." "This is the same guy who praises Muslims and
Catholics, and even Nostrodamus, for goodness sake!! So why would we choose
to put *any stock* in what this guy says!?" "2011 (year of speculation) - 7 (tribulation) Im not date setting in anyway but I saw where, above, the
guy talks a lot about 2011. so this makes me wonder that this could be the
great year. As many people i know are saying, 'Something big is going to
happen this year'." "Seriously though, everything is happening so fast now
that I don't use the term 'years' when talking about the Rapture occuring,
its more like days. Time is very short. Make sure the people you know are
ready." "This comes from some Aztec Calender which has no date
after 2012 so therefore 2011 must be the Rapture. That is such a stupid way
to figure it out." "I am sure that Satan is getting a good idea that the
time is at hand. He's not stupid. He wouldnt want anyone to think that the
rapture is imminent that is for sure. Mums the word." "I believe the institution of marriage started to be
weakened when couples started living together outside of wedlock. Then the
feminists told women they didn't need a man to raise children ... which
weakened the family structure even more. Divorce has dealt another huge blow
to the family structure. Now we have homosexuals adopting children, and if
they legalize homosexual 'marriages' I'd say we can kiss the institute of
marriage goodbye in America. Satan knows if he can destroy the very
foundation of society ... family, he can destroy the Nation. He's getting it
done." "Morningstarlet, Couldn't agree with ya more sis!" "Next we'll be marrying man and dog." "Even if someone thinks gay mariges are ok with them,
the social cost in tax money should give them pause." "LOL There is no such thing as an 'atheist', being an
'atheist' only means that you dont want to be held accountable for your
actions so you refuse to believe that there is a higher being who will one
day judge you." "I am so sick of people using Yawehs wrath as proof
that he's evil. But does it really matter if he's evil or not does it? If he
is the true god then you must do what he says. An all powerful being is not
bound by his own laws." [Replying to (paraphrased) 'why worship him then?']
"Because he can wipe you of the face of the earth without even a
word." *** Crappy Bible Apologetic of the Month *** "Sort of strange how people say the Bible was fake,
when the authors lived such a long time ago, fictional stories probably
haven't been invented yet." "I was just sitting here watching everyone stomp their
feet and demand that God do something. Do you ever stop and think just how
stupid all these 'theories' are? I mean how many explosions would it take to
create a house? How less complex is a house than the human body? Do you
really think that you could set off enough dynamite and one time the eiffel
tower would be sitting in the center of ground zero?" "Yes, it's true! Gays caused AIDS - and alot of other
horrible diseases - because of their unnatural wicked acts! Every time you
see a homosexual, you are looking at a killer! [insert this
flaming animated GIF]" "Did homosexual sin in America cause 9-11 and other
national disasters? Yes. Here's how: Because of rampant sodomite sin, Heaven
has withdrawn Divine blessing and protection from America. This allowed the
Arab terrorists who attacked on 9-11 to succeed. Divine judgement and
punishment of America is yet to come. Unless this nation repents, our
country's fate will be the same as that of Sodom & Gomorrah!" "SAME THING WITH THE SPACE SHUTTLE DISASTER...
GOD could have put His finger on the damaged Space Shuttle Columbia to bring
it to a safe landing on earth... but He didn't because of America's national
sins like sodomy! Once again, we see clearly that gays have caused Heaven to
withdraw Divine blessing and protection from America!" "It is the responsibility of real men to care for,
shelter and direct their women. Women just don't have the capacity to do
what's right without the guidance of men. Too many of America's men today
are fagatized, so they don't stand up like the are suppose to so as to lead
society!" "GOD warns us clearly in the Bible not to engage in
sodomy, nor adultery, nor promiscuity, nor destroy our bodies as with
intravenous street drugs... These are the ways people get HIV/AIDS - almost
entirely via sin. Why do you think we are given The Ten Commandments, etc in
the Bible??? For all you lost heathens here: LINK to The Ten
Commandments!" [Replying to "I am offended by the word
'fagatized'"] "GOD is offended by sin. I suggest you repent of
your heathen ways before GOD & ask JESUS to forgive you and cleanse
you." *** "Posting Under the Influence" (PUI) Ticket *** "I know this sound stupid but how can you live in
Israel and not believe in Jesus?" "Evolution have not any facts and any arguments, it
have only lies.Read books please. All know this, But I am not about that, it
already proved.It have proved long ago alraedy. I am about other thing, that
there is big mafia with name of science, which work against the simple,clear
truths by ruling with Devil in worldwide.And Creation already is proved that
it is very very right by science, by science point of view . And this mafia
dont let that in Schools to teach Creation having not a right to do so. If
Creation would have been taught with Evolution it will clearly show all
foolishness and all nonsens of Evolution, what is all." *** Transitional Horse Head Prize *** "Evolution is a big mafia in worldwide. Am I right?? It is not a science, but mafia, ruling by Devil. I think that there is big mafia in the world which protects evolution. Dont you see this...?? Creationism, specifically Young Earth Creationism is a
model, that God created everything as is, over a period of 6 days. It
explains all the the species, it explains the variety of life, it explains
the geological record, it explains the phylogenetic trees, explains the
cosmic microwave background, it explains the light from distant stars, it
explains a whole bunch of these things. True Science can model them all. All
right. I say honestly that I believe the Bible is True because all this
things you said. In any way I can explain all this for my self. And there is
not any difficulty do explain all this by Creation point of view . "You dont know many things. You, Evolutionists are very
very away from truths.. I saw it from your answers. All your answers come
from that that you dont know many things. You dont know that for you are
deceived. You dont know many many things. You are very like to be under
propaganda. Second why you here argue about Creationism, it is already
proved long ago. Question not about Creationism or Evolution, there are many
topics here about that. Question about other thing, that is, that there are
many organizations in worldwide who struggle against Creationism to be
taught in Schools in this way they struggle against our human rights. And so
humankind have not a right to learn Creationism. They are very like
criminals." "Why Creationists were bored from Evolutionists? "'All the future events will be sealed in a book for
them,' according to Isaiah 29. I think this is speaking of what we commonly
look at as 'The Apocrypha,' and so THERE ARE MANY who DO NOT (YET) SEE how
it's removal is what enabled the evoltionists to put up their whole scheme
of a vast geological time frame." "Anyone who truly wishes to see what transpires at the
end of this age has only to read the second half of the Wisdom of Solomon*.
Such a time brings a fire or the release of energy on all things in the form
of 'unusual rains and hailstorms, and relentless showers.' There is also an
accompanying shift in molecular forces, which can be gathered from the fact
that water, which normally 'quenches every thing,' causes fire to have an
even greater effect. (Wis 16:17) It is evident that the Oxygen and Hydrogen
atoms become disassociated to some degree. 'It blazed up in the midst of the
water, with more than fiery power,' (Wis 16:19) and 'snow and ice endured
fire without melting.' (Wis 16:22) What crops the fire could not destroy
'melted away when it was simply warmed by a fleeting sunbeam.'(Wis 16:27)
What there is also to consider is that this incredible change in molecular
forces, also carries all the way through the entire electromagnetic
spectrum! For, as the scriptures say, they were 'deprived of light and
imprisoned in darkness.'(Wis 18;4)" * The Wisdom of Solomon, including these bastardized allegorical verses from ch. 16 and up, can be read at Sacred-Texts.com "And as soon as you also confirm the reality of the
mantle being composed of compressed mater, largely in the form of highly
compressed oxygen, hydrogen, silica, and carbon atoms, then everything about
the ancient Ante-diluvian Earth (i.e., the earth before the flood) and the
Deluge begins to rapidly fall into place, and it all makes great sense!
Moreover, in so many words, what this all means is that when new matter is
released . . . a whole new faces emerges on both the lifeless, geological
world – and at the same time both the plant and the animal kingdoms
change! Hence, it is not evolution that changes the species! In other words,
it is the release of a great volume of new matter from within the mantle
that changes the species – and it causes both a NEW plant kingdom along
with NEW animal kingdom to emerge!" "The existence of the Greenland Basin and the present
location of Greenland proves (i.e., it is stark evidence of the fact) that
the mantle of the earth has expanded very rapidly, so rapidly in fact - that
it actually lifted the entire continent of Greenland up on one end! Go to
any modern National Geographic Atlas showing the Greenland and the floor of
the Atric Ocean, and you can see THESE PROOFS for yourself!" "Just get hold of a good National Geographic Atlas of the World,
which has a series of underwater maps in the back. Open it up and take a
good look just to the west of Greenland, and you'll be able to see the exact
outline, showing percisely where Greenland was one located on the Artic
Ocean Floor! It's also very easy to see that at one point, not only the tip
but the whole continent of Greenland rose up on end. When it started, it was
in an eight o'clock position, and yet, rotating to the east as it came
crashing down, it endid up in a four o'clock position as we yet find it
today. The point is that all this happened - and I find it to be either
evidence of that time when the mantle did significantly expand - or it must
be something on the order of God's own little tiddley-wink." "Basically they [the Illuminati] are a group of hypocrites that say one thing to appease the people while meeting secretly and manipulating world events in order to create a one world government and one world religion and to stage the antichrist. They are extremely powerful, wealthy people who participate in occult rituals and witchcraft in order to receive the power over the world that the devil will give them in return for their worship. The devil is the lord of this world and is actively using these people to stage his appearing... There is much false and misleading information about this,
because the devil is the king of lies. Use discernment here..." "They are Masons of the 33rd degree or 'higher' which
there is no higher really. The illuminati have secret meetings and are often
high ranking officials in government or business settings. Much more really
isn't known, and if it is, not much is stated on message boards, online or
in email format-- and those who were in, that speak out, often quit
speaking.. soon." "I don't really consider masonic literature to be a
solid source. They have too many reality problems for me to take them
seriously." "Satan commands anyone he wants to. The unsaved have no
defense against him. He does not appear before them in a flash of fire and
brimstone. All he needs to do is plant a thought in their heads." "that human does not need to know why he is doing what
he is compelled to do. He just does it. The unsaved have NO defense against
satan's urging. There is NOTHING stopping a demon from possessing the
unsaved. They are satan's puppets!" "The conspiracy stuff used to bother me, not I find it
more of a marker as to how fallen the world is, how deceived people are, and
how close our redemption is." "Pamaris and Mattbert, You two are spot on...!!!! I
think they have WAY more control over our daily lives than anyone realizes.
Just a couple of examples, You have to have a license for everything these
days. Money is control. My cell phone has a GPS tracker in it that I can
leave on all the time or turn it off(yeah right)for emergency purposes only.
Onstar in your car, Folks, if they can UNLOCK your car anywhere in the
world, can they not LOCK it also? With or without you in it, or shut it off
if you violate some bogus law until they can get to you?" "I would actually like to point out one of the
statements about [the Illuminati being mentioned in Tomb Raider games with]
Lara Croft. One way to deny anything is going on is to throw some truth into
a fictional story, so all of it gets tossed into the ashheap of a Hollywood
plot. The Illuminati has been around for a lot longer than Lara Croft has.
Secret societies have been around for ages; in fact, many people believe
that the Pharisees and Sadducees were actually secret societies. This would
explain some of the particularly scathing comments of the Lord to these
people. They knew exactly who Jesus was, and still would not repent." "What I don’t get is why so many Christians are not
only blind to it but say we are chasing rainbows! Before you become a
naysayer do a search on the inter net on each name in the above group [Skull
and Bones, the Trilateral Commission, the UN, etc.] and see what you can
find out. Oh, I forgot to mention one very important organization. The
United States Federal Reserve Bank. You may think it is a govt entity but it
is very private and they are pushing our economy further into an economic
collapse, on purpose, with each passing day!" "Fox news has done a much better job of telling the
story in Iraq. Gee I wonder if that's why their ratings are through the
roof. The media has been committing treason since vietnam, IMO.
Shameful!!" "No, genocide is the killing of a group because of WHO
they are, God only destroyed tribes because of what they had DONE. All the
tribes around ancient Israel were semitic so it was plainly not genocide or
racial in nature." "No, it is not irrelevant, given that according the
scriptures, 'the wages of sin is death'. Therefore, God was meteing out
justice on the Canaanites, Amelekites and Egyptians. Meteing out justice on
evildoers is moral especially if you are the judge of the universe." "Since they were destroyed for what they did, ie
rebelling against the king of the universe, and preventing his
representatives, ie israel, from acquiring their land. So it does not
qualify as genocide. Unless you are going to say that capital punishment for
all murderers is genocide of murderers. " "No, as I stated ALL humans from birth have a tendency
to rebel against their creator and King, that is what they [the children]
were killed for, NOT because of who they were or who their parents
were." "Their suffering was not unjustified, all humans are
sinners and deserve death." "No, that is not what I am saying, they were killed for
their own sins." [Replying to "how does an infant 'rebel'?"]
"If you have ever spent any time around tiny babies you learn they can
be very selfish and even manipulative." "No, in Deut. 21:13-14, it states that if the marriage
[between an Israeli soldier and a female war prisoner] does not work out she
is free to go and should not be humiliated and treated like a slave. So
there is no rape here." "God says that he should not mistreat her, this plainly
includes rape. The humbling refers to the killing of her family. There is no
rape, try again." *** Apologist Rationalization of the Month *** [Replying to "The woman taken captive in war can't divorce (per Deut. 21:13-14)... Only the soldier can end the 'relationship', if he 'has no delight in her'"] Yes, the man has the primary option but she can control it
by not delighting him." "But if evolution is true and it has made men stronger
than women, does that not mean that they have a natural right to rape women
since they are stronger?" "Unbelief is a moral issue because all humans know that
the true God exists and deserves their worship so to deny it is being
dishonest. Though of course years of denying Him can push this knowledge
into the subconscious so that they can actually convince themselves that
they do not believe he exists. Also the Nazis belief that allowing jews to
live is immoral is just a subjective belief based on their own hatreds while
the ancient hebrew belief that unbelief is immoral is based on the objective
basis of God's moral character." "Fraid so, it shows that the problem is probably
anti-semitism on [Jewish Bible scholar Richard] Friedman's part." "Noticing A Rise In Sentiment of “Crucify The Xtians!
Crucify The Xtians!” In America...? CAN YOU ALSO FEEL IT IN THE AIR?" "Are you saying you don't believe many Americans' have
deep enough hatred of Christians to allow them to be put to death if the
government ever sanctions it?" "Now...I have never seen a UFO, but I have heard
supernatural voices, in the presence of others. I have felt some powerful
stuff which I suppose you may claim that any hypnotist could duplicate. I
want to believe, and you want to disbelieve. Perhaps I, and most theists
like me are mentally ill. If so, so be it. There is a 1% chance that the
supernatural world of a Monotheistic God an an Angelic/demonic war is real,
also." "I think you are overthinking this a bit. We need to
learn to obey Christ even when it doesn't make sense to us." "Bin Laden's Going To Nuke Miami... The NWO [New
World Order] will use Bin Laden to Nuke Miami! CIA patsy/pawn Bin Laden will
'punish Miami' for being the home of Digital Angel, implantable micro chips.
From what I have found in the codes Laden will use a Russian Nuke to cause a
literal holocaust in Miami. In swift retaliation, and an excuse to get rid
of Damascus, Bush will Nuke Damascus into a parking lot of rubble fulfilling
Isaiah 17. Possible months for the Nuking of Miami are January, March or
September." "My source is the Bible and Decoding Hidden codes
layered within it." "I know it sounds wrong, but I bet my friend 5 bucks
that it would happen. I am a believer in Bible Code, but I don't think it
tells what will happen [Miami would be nuked as prophecied above]. I think
Bible Code shows what will happen if no one does anything to stop it. And if
Miami is bombed, I'll be extremely sad, but 5 dollars richer." "Also, Planet X is the Lord's judgment on the earth. So
if you refuse to hear of His Judgement, why are you on an Armageddon
board?" "The Moby Dick disinfo attempts [to find Bible codes in
that nove] are outright laughable... It's nothing but a desparate attempt to
disprove something they can't." "Since the war on terrorism is religion..then
everything going on 'political' is basically religion. Trying to separate
the two in the future will be mere impossible. It's all about religion.
People just don't get it. The New World Order is about religion. It's about
getting the entire world under one government so the Antichrist (Satan) can
rule the entire world and make everyone worship him as god. Don't think it's
possible? That's what the chip implants are for." "Think that's insane? George Bush in 1991 passed
legislation stating that the USA is based on the Noahide Laws. What happened
to 'In God We Trust?' The Noahide laws make it illegal for anyone to worship
Jesus (the Son of God), and those who do will be beheaded*.
This law is already on the books, just wait till they decide to implement
it." * For some misconception-alleviating facts about H.J.RES.104.ENR, which wasn't even a law and said no such thing, see this topic at the Internet Infidels board. "There's two groups who will completely reject any
participation in this type of worldwide chipping and forced worship of
Antichrist as god. The Moslems and the real Christians. These two groups
will be targeted by the NWO for extermination. The moslems, through wars,
and the Christians through Martial Law roundups and extermination camps. Now
you know WHY they WANT martial law here so badly. They want is so they can
start rounding up patriots and Christians who will resist the NWO and send
them to camps to be killed... They're waiting..they're planning, they're
GOING to implement it." "It's this willingness and love for Him that stands strong when the government and those that are targetting you and hate you take everything away from you... You get to deal with Directed Energy Weapons on a daily basis, the government withholding your emails and your emails you send never getting to their intended destination. You get to deal with spooks from moving down your road to keeping 'UFO's' outside your house just for constant surveillance. You get to argue with CIA psyops via telepathy who are ticked you're onto them. You get to deal with Psychotronic Warfare and Dreamscape Manipulation. You can be reduced to being penniless at almost all times because they will make sure you are but God will provide to keep your head above the water. He will also hold you up against your enemies. They're
attempts to kill me have never succeeded. I will speak forth what the Lord
wants me to speak and reveal what He wants me to reveal regardless of their
attempts to harass and annoy me enough to quit... And the very ones you are
sent to help or warn, will reject you and revile you and hate you and speak
evil of you." "Typical back seat drivers spewing ignorance over
something they know nothing about. I completely refuse to even respond to
Mickey on this forum anymore. I've dealt with his kind on other boards and
frankly I could care less if he's a paid government internet groupie or not,
I just dont' waste my time with those kinds of people." "'Out of context' is old and busted. On the RARE
occasions evolutionists even bother to check my quotes, they are satisfied
if they can find even the pickiest detail -- anything to protect the honor
of their sacred myth. I think quotes that give evolutionists sleepless
nights are the ones that are clearly IN context i.e. the majority..." "You have empolyed the most common strategy: calling
the Creationist a 'liar'. This makes the assumption that I am wrong (while
conveniently saving the effort of proving it) and that I know I am wrong
(because Sacred Evolution MUST be True)." "A constitutional ammendment banning gay marriage is
the only real way to curb this problem. Unfortunately, I kindof doubt if it
will pass. It's too late to do anything about interracial marriages,
interclass marriages, or non-arranged marriages, but if we invoke the
constitutional process, perhaps we can prevent the marriage institution from
degenerating further." "Well the number 1 reason [to ban it] is that 'the
'bigotry' of America' as 65% of Americans don't want gay marriage. I don't
want to have to explain to my kid why two fags are holding hands in the
park. Gay marriage destabilizes the society. Once you extend marriage to one
alternative group, you have to extend it to all alternative groups. That
opens the door for the polygamists, and then the NAMBLA pinheads. Then it
opens the door for more cultural debasement: rap music being played in the
streets, legalized prostitution, legalized drugs. Gay marriage is just the
jumping off point. This is also not my loony theory. All you have to do is
look at Europe (esp. Sweeden and Denmark), and it becomes clear that gay
marriage is just the jumping off point for a complete collapse of the
culture." "Because they [homosexuals] are all unemployed and have
nothing better to do than harass and annoy people with thier dumbass
parades." "I don't know about 'reprative therapy,' but if the appropriate
research had taken place, it's possible that would could already have a
vaccine against homosexuality." "Don't you see the natural progression? You can see it going backwards but not going forwards: Marriage is a union between a man and a woman of the same race and class arranged by their parents. Marriage is a union between a man and a woman of the same race and class. Marriage is a union between a man and a woman of the same race. Marriage is a union between a man and a woman. Marriage is a union between two people. Marriage is a union between people. Marriage is a union. (I'm implying that at this state animals are involved, but I want to keep the same form of decreasing the definition and therefore the meaning of marriage.) Marriage is meaningless. It isn't a slippery slope because the pattern of progression
has already been demonstrated." "If I were dictator people would have to marry someone
within 1 tax bracket of themselves of the same race, for reasons I've
already stated: But my opinion for real-world America is that the
'progression' (read: deterioration) of marriage has to be stopped at some
point." "haha. No, that was the label I was assigned. I am
clearly not afraid of homos. They are obviously sick, freaks of nature, and
need compassion and medical care. I guess that view makes me a 'homophobe.'
This is how the left works. How come I don't go around calling people that
think homosexuality is wonderful and should be 'celebrated' heterophobes?
Perhaps I should start. Kenji is a heterophobe." "I've now finished reading the website, and I still
view it with a guarded skepticism. It seems to be an attempt to push an
animal-loving, industry-hating, pollution-hating, homeopathy-loving,
abortion-loving, government-expanding, drug-loving agenda. I also think the
author had a hard time keeping his anti-Bush rhetoric out of the
discussion." "That's because I already knew the truth before I
started looking. I just wanted to find someone to back up what is obviously
true, rather than buy into the alarmist [environmentalist] rhetoric." "You have obviously not read the website. The last page
advocates women's 'reproductive rights' under the guise of 'humanely
decreasing the world population.' The website almost sounds to me like it
advocates a liberal agenda by Appeal to Consequences. (i.e. if women don't
have abortions, civilization as we know it will end!)" "Doesn't matter [that embryos are mindless]. You Nazis
are all alike." ".01% chance of death in pregnancy, 100% chance of
death in abortion. Hmmmm..." "haha.. you guys are just repeating yourselves. All I
know is that if I ever decide to committ suicide, I will blow up an abortion
clinic in the process." "Finally, if America adopted the Kyoto Protocol [a
treaty against global warming], your precious minorities would find
themselves out of work thanks to the catastrophic effect THAT would have on
the US economy. A study done by some negro and spic organizations (so albeit
a very biased study) concluded that 864,000 colored people and 511,000 spics
would lose their jobs." "African Americans also tend to be black which makes it
easy to identify violent criminals. How convenient. God gave us a
color-coded guide, almost as good as Bush's color-coded terror alert
system." "Blacks, through thier typically racist outlook,
believe that America owes them a living. This outlook causes many of them to
perpetuate the welfare culture which in turn leads to crime. I am not saying
that their skin color causes them to commit crimes, but it is their outlook
on life which of course stems from their genetic makeup that causes this
behavior." "The thing that scares me about society today is that
we like to give up all the progress we've made. We want to give up religion,
we want to give up nationalism, we want to give up capitalism... the irony
is that so-called 'progressives' are the ones that want to give up this
progress. Go figure." "This country would be a much better place had the south won the
Civil War. Slavery would have ended anyhow, as machines were invented to
replaced them. It helps if you think of slaves as part of the infrastructure
rather than people. In reality, it should be the 'slave descendants' paying
tribute to the US Government for granting them freedom. They have some nerve
asking US to pay THEM!" "We wouldn't be two nations. A Confederate victory in the Civil War
would have moved the nation in a conservative direction, helping to preserve
the society and culture rather than see the perpetual degeneration that we
have today in the name of 'progression.' " "You see, Reagan opposed communism from the 1940s when the USSR
tried to establish itself in Hollywood. He was the only person who had a
consistent approach spanning 4 decades." "The Pope is the Antichrist THE CATHOLIC IS A FALSE RELIGION... During the Dark Ages the Catholic Church slaughtered over 150 million Christians, and this atrocity is never mentioned today! The world has almost completely forgotten the many millions of people who were burned at the stake by the papacy because they wanted to worship God according to the Bible. The slaughter in Bosnia, Kosovo, Serbia, and Croatia is a direct result of the Vatican?s involvement in this area, but you will never hear about it because the Jesuit-controlled news media not only refuse to mention it but they lie about the situation to keep the papacy from being suspected of their true involvement... Soon the papacy will once again attain enough raw political power to repeat the atrocities of the Dark Ages. Once again the Catholic Church will slaughter true Christians for wanting to worship God according to the Bible. Regardless of how impossible this seems to us today, once again the papacy and its agents will plunge the world into another dark age. ALL hail the murderers and false prophets. ALL HAIL THE POPE
WHOM CATHOLICS WORSHIP BY KISSING HIS HAND. Bow down to no-one but the
LORD" "That's because you've been brainwashed by
pro-homosexual propaganda to view any disagreement with homosexuality and
the radical agenda of homosexuals to be 'anti-homosexual.'" "I would definitely support a ban on all homosexual
activity. It's a step in the right direction back to sanity " "Lots of things are banned that people do in private
and we aren't putting cameras in their homes to catch them, so that's just
more leftist hyperbole. At the very least, an outright ban on homosexuality
would force homosexuals to keep their sexuality to themselves instead of
flaunting it in front of everyone and it would prevent them from using the
captive audience of our public school systems to poison the minds of our
children." [Replying to 'you need serious help'] "If you are
serious, it only means that you are a bigot" "She might have seen an angel, she might have not. I
wasn't there so I don't know. But I do know that there are dozens of
references of people interacting with angels in the Bible. There's your
proof of the existence of angels." [To a recent deconvert who realized it was nonsense after utterly losing a debate] "the questions you need to ask should not be directed to those who have no regard for life or ist eternal aspects. These people will pretend to be your friend and have great skill in leading poeple away from God because it is simply easier and more reasonable to be human that way. But that is the easy way out and and unfortinatley the way out may also lead to hell. Ask yourself a different question kaiser: If hell is a reality and there really is a God, will your
atheist friends be a confort to you in hell? " "The moral of the story? Satan is a good debator." "Yes kaizer, it is US VERSUS THEM! They will be those
who find out what happens to those who deny God and lure others with
them." "Its all a matter of risk factor. Why walk into the
lion's den just to see if there really is somethingin that darkness that
will eat you for breakfast, just because you dont know for sure if it is in
there or not. To me it is a fool that sticks his head in a lions mouth just
to prove to himself that he can do it." [Replying to "maybe you should be concerned about
REALITY"] "and maybe when you know the real truth face to face you
will then be concerned as you should now be, for trying to lead an innocent
victim into hell with you.if you want to risk going there then dive in, but
why are you so adamant about taking someone else with you?" "AHHH, just as I thoguht, Kaiser ,,,you are obviously
an athiest anyway. Im out. No sense in trying to save anyone who wants to
risk their eternal soul. I treid, have a great eternity with these that you
call your friends and may God have mercy!" "All of these useless attempts are always utilized by
atheists: try to make it sound like Christians use fear tactics[,] try to
make it sound like ist a matter of intelligence. Well your tactics only work
on weak minds that are not enlightened by the Holy spirit, those minds that
are empowreed are far beyonf your feeble reach." "Sure it would be better [to show the LOVE of
religion]... IF THERE WAS NO SUCH THING AS HELL! Would you warn your family
about it if you knew it was real and that they were on their way there? Or
would you ignore pointing that rality out to them just to tell them about
the nice views that might be on another road?" "You are the one making the choices here and you're
response to me sounds like a man who has no regard for people who care. if
you want these [non-Christians] for your friends just remember that you will
go where they lead you." "No need to discuss anything with a person who is
suicidal and determined to toss herself into the fires of hell. if that is
what you want for your eternal future than you deserve what you get. you are
even sorse than those athesits who have never known God, for you have
committed the unforgivable. you have known God, and have responded to His
call, and have deliberately, knowing the consequenses, chosen to reject Him.
You have become your own worst enemy and will spend an eterntiy in a
nightmare that you will never wake from. My soul aches for you
Liberty!" "ONE HUNDRED PERCENT AGREED [that non-Christians just
want you to go to Hell with them]!!!!! This is no place to pretend you have
friends as any cop will tell you. There are vicious predators on these
boards." "... I will not resort to rudeness or bad behavior here
no matter how taunting or insulting any of you become. god Bless!" "Well I wouldn't make a decision based on what you read
on a messageboard, atheists who WANT you to turn will be friendly as all get
out, this is Satan working against you. I would take it easy and not be
rushed into making a decision based on Ad Populum atheistic arguments." "Its evident to me, for unbelievers it will not be
evident, don't you think Satan watches out for his flock? He wants the
unbeliever to be as comfortable as possible, negating any need to seek God.
There's nobody there, there's nobody there... says the ostrich with his head
in the sand." "it seems that intelligence, or what man thinks is
intelligence is always the source of their confusion. In all of my long
study, I have learned that it is best to leave the tech up to the Apostles
and just trust in their faith." "Think of this. The scientists nowadays are the ones
that don't accept creationism etc. and are also the ones that aren't
considered so great. Some scientists of the past happen to be Christian and
guess what? It happens to be that these scientists that are Christian are
considered to be the greatest of all time. God bless!" *** Overstatement of the Month *** "the homosexual agenda is showing its true colors [because some
author wrote a tongue-in-cheek children's
book with a stereotypically gay prince]. this is a war against our
freedom and our country. The homosexual agenda is as big a threat as radical
islam." "Homosexuality is a huge threat to our future. If gay
marriages are allowed, most definitly reproduction of our human race will be
dramatically reduced <-- its a fact." "of course. The homosexual movement was funded by the
elite to reduce world population (those same elite that funded eugenics in
nazi germany)" "What I am implying is that by forcing homosexuality
into the 'norm', homosexuals have opened the door for a multitude of other
abnormal behaviors, including pedophilia. And if you think it could never
happen, it was accepted practice in greece for a LONG time. I'm sure you're
proud to help out your NAMBLA brethren." "Masturbation will wreck you. It will destroy you.
There can't be anything on earth that makes you feel more guilty, or
anything that has to be kept as more of a secret, or something that's harder
to cope with because you don't feel like you can tell anyone. I'm going on
14 months free of this horrifying disease. Praise Jesus, who set me
free." "You are using body parts in ways that they were not
intended to be used. Justify it all you want, but it's not right. When you
say you're 'thinking about your wife', you're using your imagination, not
reality, and that's very, very dangerous. Pleasing you is your WIFE'S job,
not yours. Anything else is wrong." "Here’s something that might help. For every stroke
[when you masturbate] just think about a strip put on the back of Jesus for
the sins you have done in life and should be getting. HUM. Bet that pressure
will ease off then...!!! when you close your eyes and think the things you
may be thinking about just start thinking about the blood running down the
back of Jesus as the whip cut into his back." "Satan and his demons are responsible for...: An animal
behaving in a strange manner, being more friendly with you than normal, like
a squirrel dancing with you, or an owl talking to you telepathically, or a
spider or insect acting strangely with you or communicating telepathically,
or seeing birds or animals appear frequently that have some symbolic meaning
to you." "I can agree that it is certainly irritating when
demons put thoughts in your head, stupid thoughts! For example, for a while
there, when I would turn the stove burner on and it would glow this nice
bright red, this thought would pop into my mind for no reason, 'You should
touch that. It won't hurt.' (Keeping in mind I've NEVER had any self-harm
issues!) I'm like 'I'm not stupid, of course I'm not going to touch that!
Get out of here, Satan, in the Name of Yahweh!' Dumb stuff and impulses like
that do often come from the enemy!" "before i became a Christian about March/April 2003, i
was surrounded by demons all the time. i could give y'all stories for hours
on all the things demons have put in my head. i remember one time i was in a
short helicopter ride in Wisconsin. i was sitting in the front, and all of a
sudden something was telling me to reach over and turn the key, but if i
did, we would crash... i've had so many images of killing people in school.
drive-by's, stabbing, cutting throats, and just straight up slaughtering my
enemies in school. Demons even had me beating my dog... i get a voice that
says 'slap him,' so as i'm petting him, suddenly i get evil and i slap him
across the face, and then i start laughing... i dropped my dog from the
second floor to the first floor twice, and the second time one of his back
legs got dislocated. i was scared and sad and mad at myself... Demons are
definitely real, but once you become a good christian, they can't do what
they used to." "You are right in that I am not being persecuted the
way you [gay people] are. Jesus will remove your sins but would not remove
the consequences. Your persecution is the consequences. Just like a murderer
receiving his due consequences at either death or life long sentences." "You professed yourself as gay but I still love you.
Really. But that doesn't mean that I like what you do. I have said many
times that I love the killer, Jeffrey Dalmer. But that doesn't mean I like
his killings." [Replying to "Thor does not lie" in response to
"God doesn't lie"] "I asked this before, but, who is Thor? Or
what is Thor? Is he your mate?" [Replying to "Thor is the Germanic and Scandinavian God
of the sky"] "Why didn't you say so. I remembered watching Thor as
a little kid. He's the one with the hammer that was flying around, right? I
believe that was the Adventure of Spiderman along with Firestorm and Iceman.
Boy, that brings back memory." "Applied Digital Solutions is now accepting
pre-registration for getting Veri-Chipped (The mark of the Beast in my
opinion)... This is a sign of things to come. We are already being slammed
because we (Christians) aren't acceptant of ecumenical religion, next it
will be because we won't get our chip. The end is very near. Keep your lamps
lit. The return of our Lord is truly nigh." "The community college is offering viewing and study of
Mars in this sky. The promotion in the fall registration brochure says Mars
has not been this close to the earth in 57,000 years. (I laughed at that
part because we all know the earth is not even 10,000 years old). So that
means that Mars has never been this close... The Bible says in the last days
there will be signs in the skies. Also, the past two years Earth has barely
escaped being whacked by large asteroids. I am not making predictions or
prophesying, but I'm wondering if this Mars thing could mean the antichrist
is coming? Also, I think those asteroids (which whizzed by and weren't even
noticed until they had gone by) could be God trying to tell us
something." "Yes, there have been many antichrists, but there will
be a final grand slam by Satan when he completely takes over the world and
martyrs nearly all the believers and the Jews also. And we must refuse the
mark or we will go to Hell... I am not a left-behinder. But you guys are
just as mixed up as they are, in my opinion... We are expected to read and
think for ourselves and we will be judged for not doing so. We are not
supposed to take man's opinions over the scriptures themselves." "My personal opinion is that the strong delusion will
be that this antichrist and his henchmen will be perceived as alians from
another planet come to save us from ourselves. 90 percent of people believe
there is intelligent life on other planets, are full of Star Wars and Star
Treck and worship NASA. These creatures (demons) can physically manifest
themselves in any form or way they choose (ie as spaceships and the Virgin
Mary and the Angel Moroni), and I believe they can also mate with humans (as
per the scriptures re the giants and angels mating with the daughters of
men)... The demons deliberately choose to manifest themselves as shocking
physical creatures as one more way to rebel against God." "Well, 'Christian' President Bush has always
compromised with sodomites and baby-killers, but still manages to maintain
the illusion that he is 'pro-life and pro-family'... Bush says he opposes
homosexual marriage, but has no problem with states adopting counterfiet
marriage for sodomites. Another reason not to vote for either one of the two
major parties next November. Don't waste your franchise on a man who refuses
to stand for godly positions." "There is not a snow ball's chance of getting a
constitutional amendment passed to protect marriage since there are now so
many highly placed Republican sodomites... forget Bush says we Worship the
same God as Muslims. He ought to be written off by us already. " "Is there a real Christian that is not anti-sodomite? I
don't think so. Just a bunch religionists, really." "Lee Atwater (who will no doubt be treated to an
extremely warm eternal home) invented the 'Big Tent' theory for Republicans,
under which pro-lifers and pro-deathers and traditional family advocates and
sodomites and other perverse creatures could rally together for a common
political goal. Obviously that goal cannot have anything to do with godly
leadership, but pure party politics... I will not be swayed by fools that
tell me they will vote for a wicked man, so that a man they perceive as
'more wicked' doesn't get elected. God installs kings and removes kings. I
will vote only for godly men, and leave the rest to His divine
Providence." "Speaking as KJV-only man, I would agree with
StormThinker on this... I read the KJV only because it is the only English
translation (besides NKJV) based on the Textus Receptus, the 'received text'
that God preserved... BTW, in our house we call the New Internation Version
the 'HIV'. It is such a bastardization of God's word, it's an
infection." "NKJV is a perversion of God's word. Nobody died or
suffered to translate the NKJV. The NKJV says the world was made 'through'
Jesus, not 'by' Him the way the KJV does. They are two completely different
Bibles... I want nothing to do with that New Age NKJV. Ever notice how easy
it is to memorize the KJV Bible? It's because it IS God's Word. Ever notice
how when you quote the KJV Bible it hits people with force? And when you
quote these other phony Bibles people just laugh it off? Any preacher who
preaches out of anything but the KJV is acting foolishly." "70% of the world's population speak English. So, if
God were to give a Bible to the people of the world, is it not safe to
assume he would use the most common language- that being English... I
believe God (having the foresight that he does) saw that in the future
English, because of capitalism and whatnot, would be the language a majority
of the world would speak. If He would have seen Spanish in that role maybe
we'd have a Spanish Bible in place of KJV.... And as for the Greek or Hebrew
texts (and this is strictly OPINION) i believe it's careless at the least
and dangerous at the most severe to have a preacher go back to these
writings... What's wrong with taking the KJV and, whatever you don't
understand, having the Holy Spirit reveal to you." *** "And They Still Complain About the Divorce Rate" Award *** "The Marriage 'process' in the ACCA (not sure if the
ACCN side still uses this), as I'm sure noted by everyone, seems to differ
from other demoninations. I do recognize that our more 'liberal' churces...
have started to integrate dating, but as an average across the board, most
of our churces discourage spending much time with the person you plan to
marry." "I am totally opposed to individual dating. Both
individuals want to present a side of themselves that is not really genuine.
Too many think they can 'carry the coals in their laps without getting
burned'. It sets one up for carnal compromise. Collective 'dating' if you
want to call it that is preferable. My personal opinon is that a person need
not consider 'dating' in any form until one is prepared for
commitment...lasting commitment. To see 15-17 year olds 'dating' is
completley insane...and any age nowhere near marriage is fruitless and
setting oneself up for heartache and an early path to destruction... Don't
be a fool and think you can 'handle it'...as long as you are a 'son of
Adam'...you WON'T...so get over yourself." *** "Most Informed Critique of Another Religion" Plaque *** "This forum is in regard of the Muslim relgion. They
beleive that Allah had visions from God in the Garden of Eden. I have look
this up and found out that it doesn't make sense. Allah was suffering hunger
when he had the visions, and when you suffer from hunger you have
halluciations. So Allah was having an hallunciation and the thing never
happened. The Messiah is Jesus Christ. Not Allah. You can't find any
historical evidence backing the Muslim religion. Archalogist have found
nothing, however they found many on the Christian fate. Like the grail from
the last supper, to Pilate the high roman preist from the Bible. If you are
Muslim put aside yourQu'ran and read the Bible. Jesus Christ is the Messiah.
Not Allah!!!!!!" "Woah woah woah, dont chop my head off just yet. Im
wondering how there are people like this...and dont you come in here and
tell me the bible is wrong, They must belive its right if they are
chrisitans, and tell me..the wizard...give me ONE thing in the bible that is
wrong, and i know you cant because the bible is perfectly historically
accurate. and everything in it is the truth. like 'And you will be hated by
all for My name's sake.' isnt that true?" "Sorry I am really not up with all this, but have you
ever looked out in to space, I think they can look real far now, have you
ever seen any other sun out there, I have not hear about one being found,
well how in the world do thoses stars just keep on shining, how come there
are even there if they have to have a Sun to exist, there are lots of stars
out there with not much sun light if any or could it be that God was the
first light." "You are using a theory about what size the stars are,
i am saying that our sun is the largest. You nor I have never been there. My
point would be if all these stars you call Suns were the same as our sun,
then all of space would be in full light, and another theory the is no end
for light. I know more about human nature, then about the stars, why a
certain question would be asked. If people are really searching for God and
Jesus, or what are they really looking for?" [Replying to "you're just talking out of your ass."] "Yes but I'm still right." "Why should there be [any archaeological evidence of
encampments made by 2 million people moving through a desert for 40 years]?
When a person packs up at moves on they do not leave their belongings
there." "Hmm... Well bodies do decompose, and you do not know
how often a new layer of soil was formed in that area. I am not so sure, but
I think it takes about a decade for bones to decompose and turn into dust
without, if they where not protected by a layer of soil or sand etc." "In Sweden sex with animals is legal. To all
atheists--Do you think it should be legal in the US??? If not, why not???
Man is just another animal anyway, isn't that right???" "Well, I can tell you at over at the Swamp [i.e., the Internet Infidels board] that's one of their weakest points: they talk about it at a couple forums but over and over and over again you get: 1) why can't an atheist act morally? In short, it's by far their weakest point. And they seem all
too keenly aware of it...." "The problem in trying to find an atheist to answer
questions about 'atheist morality' is , or seems to be that they have not
thought things through and find it difficult to even consider in their own
minds, the significance of my questions[...]!! It is with their refusal to
face the facts honestly and THINK, instead they only ceceive themselves and
others." "Caution: the whole game there [at Internet Infidels]
is rigged: in-house trolls, massive sockpuppetry, moderators who look the
other way if the theist is being verbally abused (but who immediately warn
the theist if he should respond in kind). You would be banned in less than a
week. And they would congratulate themselves on having 'refuted your
arguments' too!" "Tricks will do them no good. They must be able to
answer my questions which are already a part of this thread!!! They have no
chance against me and they know it. Is there no one there who dares to
answer my questions about atheism?????" "... one of my very close online friends Just yesterday
out of the clear blue renounced JESUS CHRIST AND SAID THE CONFESSION OF
FAITH FOR ISLAM.. I am deeply troubled and shocked over this.. I understand
this is only the internet and we cant truly know who we are dealing with on
here .. But to be able to one day be singing Praise To Jesus to the next
embracing allah and mohammad is quite horrifying to me.. Could u all please
share some scriptures about how we should deal WITH APOSTATES.!!! I know i
need to pray but should i shun her.. should i rebuke her this is not fun and
games...." "Liz, Your friend has been deceived and my guess is
that it probably does have to do with a Muslim man. Is she married to him
yet? If not, she can be saved before she gets herself into a mess that she
will regret for the rest of her life.[...] We also need to understand that
the Muslims who are arriving in the U.S. and throughout the Western world
have an agenda, many are here to try to convert as many of us as possible.
They believe they can turn the U.S. into a Muslim nation. And their main
strategy is through marriage with Western women, particularly
Christians." "First shes became good friends with a muslim guy on here who is The biggest wolf in sheeps clothing... There would be times she came to me saying he made sense . I told her to run far from him immediately Unless she is prepared to what she opens herself up to. I think this played a Big part. She also used to run a room on paltalk exposing islam..... The muslim men pressured her to chaneg her room to a nice lets all get along peace room.... By that she started to compromise and change saying odd things like.... 'if God leads a person to islam who am i to say otherwise. twitch Yesterday as i spoke to her i was so sick.. " "THere is a site called 'Loving a Muslim' out there
with testimonies of Western women who got into messy relationships with
Muslim men.[...] It's sad that so many Western women are so starved for male
attention ..." "It doesn't help that we have a President in office who
not only advocates Islam, but says it's a 'peaceful religion.' He has been
front and center in advocating this religion, even saying that the god of
Islam and the God of the Bible are one in the same (universalism).[...] The
ramifications are huge here - not just politically, but spiritually. If the
highest office in our land - who happens to be a born-again Christian - says
Islam is peaceful, well, and good - then who's to say he's not leading
Christians astray? Why not just convert to Islam then?" "I think a lot of people are misled and confused about
Islam. Maybe President Bush does know about the differences between Islam
and Christianity, but then again maybe he doesn't. A lot of people don't
exactly go study other religions once they become a Christian. " "First, it's untrue that the god of Islam is personal.
He is not. He is vengeful and angry, which you can see through the Muslim
culture." "If there is life on other planets... Some questions come up: 1. Wouldn't Jesus have had to be crucified, or otherwise given them (the aliens) salvation. 2. If not, well...would that mean the alien race never 'fell'? Never got expelled from THEIR Garden of Eden? I don't think so... 3. Would they have their own version of t |
