Fundies Say the Darndest Things! August 2002 Edition
Last Updated April 23, 2003



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[On abortion] "Maybe those women wouldn't commit murder if it was called exactly what it is, genocide."
- s0uljah, ChristianForums


[Replying to another Christian expressing doubts about standard doctrines] "You are in a state of denial, Mr. Malone. God will indeed treat you the way you have chosen to be treated. You reject the only provision by not believing God at His word, when He tells you the only way to escape eternal torment is thru trusting His Son, the Lord Jesus and obeying His commands. One of which is to tell you the truth when you do not trust His Son. It is so, Mr. Malone.

I would suggest you get on your knees and ask God to forgive you of your sin of unbelief in Jesus as the only provision for salvation and obey Jesus as Lord, if you don't want to see hell fire forever.."
- ladylove, ChristianForums


[Arguing for theistic evolution] "Yet i maintain that God is the origin of that evolution process, not Darwin."
- timi, PayableOnDeath BBS


"All that aside, do you live in a freakin' cave? Do you have any gay friends? Good grief, if you want to talk about homosexuality and consequences, as my dead grandfather. Yep, gay, and dead at 56. AIDS. Most of my gay friends are on the same route. Every time one of my friends comes out of the closet I cry. Not because of sin, but because I know how they are going to die. Its a dangerous road they are on. Homosexuality is rarely about two commited life partners. It is usually about getting laid a lot from a lot of different people."
- sniff, PayableOnDeath BBS


[Defending the Biblically-recorded Hebrew genocides, including wholesale slaughter of children] "Surely if anyone there was innocent, and killed they would end up in heaven."
- GraftMeIn, ChristianForums


"The book of mormon contradicts the bible at every turn, and even contradicts itself, it's total bull."
- Magna Gei, PayableOnDeath BBS


"God isn't forcing His love upon us. If He did then we would have no choice but to love Him. He'd be taking away our free will. So He's giving us a choice. Love Him and your reward is Heaven. Reject Him and condemn yourself to Hell. They are the two options God has presented us with and the ONLY two options. Remember God doesn't send us to hell, we condemn ourselves to hell. You give your wife a choice, "stay with me and we'll spend the rest of our lives together or go your away and never see me again". Are we as Christians afraid of Hell? Very much so, but it's necessary for us to keep our love in the Lord or risk losing faith."
- +BAD CHRISTIAN+(a.k.a. russell182), PayableOnDeath BBS


"We've heard it all before.

There is no concrete evidence for theories, that is why they are still theories.

I think you would be better off asking for proofs and not theories.

I say we explore 100% truths, that way we don't go in circles."
- Badfish, ChristianForums


[On why a kind God would use the threat of Hell as an... incentive at all] "Like I said before if there was something other than torment then who'd worship Him?"
- +BAD CHRISTIAN+(a.k.a. russell182), PayableOnDeath BBS


[On why the dinosaurs went extinct] "The other theory is that before Adam and Eve were the dinosaurs. God created them and didn't like them so He flooded the earth and started again."
- +BAD CHRISTIAN+(a.k.a. russell182), PayableOnDeath BBS


[Replying to suggestion he read Thomas Paine's Age of Reason to get a deist's take on the Bible] "Can't and won't Anyone can take the bible out of context and distort it easily, it doesn't even take a smart person to do this."
- Badfish, ChristianForums


"I have experienced things of God, that cannot be denied. I as well as many others have posted many testimonies on things we have experienced. I have experienced things that are not from God, rather from demons, and this is why I turned to God.

[...]

I will add that i think that some people lie about some of their testimonies, but millions of christians don't lie about our testimonies."
- Jacqueline, ChristianWebsite Talk!


"You do realise that the concept of Heaven originated in the Old Testament... do you? You do realise that there is no evidence out there to suggest there is a heaven outside of the Bible?"
- +BAD CHRISTIAN+(a.k.a. russell182), PayableOnDeath BBS


[Whining about evolution] "... I do wish that science would just quit. We have threats of nuclear war. If science wants to keep expanding, I'm gonna board a shuttle and get out of here! No, not really. There's too many souls to save."
- Americanrock61, ChristianWebsite Talk!


[Commenting on another theist's slightly different belief in God, one which doesn't require accepting and loving Jesus to be saved] "May I ask you how you can love something that you've never even met, felt or heard? I bet you've never even seen god. How can you love something you don't even know?"
- +BAD CHRISTIAN+(a.k.a. russell182), PayableOnDeath BBS 


"Also stalictites and staligmites according to evolutionists take hundreds and thousands of years to grow,THEY DON'T.
They could from in possibly a few months why in fact stalictites and staligmites are sometimes in HOUSEHOLD REFRDGIRATORS!"
- Hector Medina, ChristianForums


[After rebuttal] "What you just posted is evolutionist crap.

People do not listen to that twisting of math!

That is just not how stalagmites work!

There is PROOF that stalagmites could very much form in a few days.

Man they are in peoples firdges! knock on some of your neighbors doors and peak in there fridges!"
- Hector Medina, ChristianForums


"A note though, is that I have seen more closed mindedness in the atheists on this site then the christian extremeists I have seen. I stick to my theology, and I well hold strong to what I know unless God tells me otherwise. In that way, my mind is open."
- Americanrock61, ChristianWebsite Talk!


[Replying to 'how is only accepting your knowledge from one source having an open mind?'] "Good question, Camaban, however, God is all knowing, and if he tells me about it, whats the need to have more then one source when I already have a 100% reliable source? It takes an open mind to hear God, so as I said, in that way, my mind is open."
- Americanrock61, ChristianWebsite Talk!


[After being asked if he also believes in the Loch Ness monster, bigfoot, psychics, etc.] "Gerald, I don't believe in it unless God sais it. So unless he tells me about Nessie or Bigfoot, then I don't believe it. "
- Americanrock61, ChristianWebsite Talk!


"Theories in science tend to be educated guesses. However, if you are educated in theories, all you will get is theories. And indeed (the motto of christianforums) all theories are to a degree assumption. Thus, many are educated in assumption. Cheers for the laws of nature, and cheers for the cure for X, but assumption will never get you anywhere until it becomes fact."
- Received, ChristianForums


*** Post of the Week for August 25-31, 2002 ***

[Probably wondering about Bible verses describing Satan as the 'prince of the powers of the Earth'] "This may sound stupid but it's food for thought none the less.

If Satan is behind all temptation and works the ground of the earth then wouldn't temptation be non existent in space, since Satan is not in space but on earth?

So basically what I'm saying is did the people who went into space (Armstrong, Space station etc) ever feel tempted by anything ungodly?

If they didn't well then that proves temptation is from satan but if they did then I think that can be explained by inner demons... of which we all have.

Any thoughts?"
- +BAD CHRISTIAN+(a.k.a. russell182), PayableOnDeath BBS


"GOD DOES NOT NEED TO PROVE HIMSELF TO ANYONE. ESPECIALLY YOU. ALSO, ITS CALLED BLIND FAITH! HAVING FAITH IN SOMETHING THAT YOU CANNOT SEE."
- zaofreak87, PayableOnDeath BBS


[Replying again to allegations of hypocrisy relating to Islam and Christian extremists] "How sad. I can tell you right now that as much hatred you have for us then you can double the hatred Muslims feel for you. Feel free to defend the Muslims... the ones that teach death to all people who aren't in the Muslim faith. No the Muslims don't give a flying f**k about YOU or America. How can you be so naive... or are you just a sheep... following the crowd? No, the only people who care about you greatly are the Christians. Do you not understand that? Open your friggin eyes and take a good hard look around."
- +BAD CHRISTIAN+(a.k.a. russell182), PayableOnDeath BBS


"Which Quran were you reading? Of course people will tell you Islam is of love and peace but don't be fooled. Believe me when I say many Muslima in America wants glory to be Allah and death to the congress. For Islam is held higher than any national patriotism. Of course there are good Muslims out there... they just understand the difference between 'right' and 'wrong'. I ask you to actually read the doctrines before making generalisations about a particular faith."
- +BAD CHRISTIAN+(a.k.a. russell182), PayableOnDeath BBS


[Replying to allegations that Christian extremists can be just as bad as Islamic ones] "Christianity is NO WAY supports the KKK. The KKK may be made up of Christians (I don't know) but they are rascist and not Godly. They are not doing the will of God and what has been taught to them. Abortion clinics are usually the result of hippie do-gooders. Any Christian associated with abortion clinic bombings is doing much evil in the eyes of God. Of course there are going to be so called Christian whackos out there who are going to shame the Christian faith by doing evil deeds, but they are simply rebelling against God... or taking matter into there own hands. I ask you to not base your perception of the Christian religion based on the immoralities of idiots. I ask you to read the Bible, a law based on love, kindness and most importantly, truth. There you'll seek the true nature of God."
- +BAD CHRISTIAN+(a.k.a. russell182), PayableOnDeath BBS


[On infants dying of horrendous, torturous birth defects] "Chew on this.

Innocent child is brought into this world! This child is terminally ill and will not survive. This child has not yet had the oppurtunity to sin or lead a sinfull life whatsoever.
Thusfare, the child dies (in wordly fashion) and goes to GOD's kingdom.

Meaning no life of sin, but an eternity of eternal and everlasting life!"
- Sold under Sin (embodiment777), PayableOnDeath BBS


[On the rather unwholesome idea that Jewish people killed in the Holocaust are now in hell for eternity because they didn't accept Jesus] "If the gassed jews are in hell then they're in hell. It doesn't change the way I feel about God. I think that most probably are (except the children). God plainly states He sends no one to hell, but can only save people from hell. He gave people free will to choose heaven or hell... it's actually a choice. I infact believe that since God desires us to be like Him then eventually everyone will end up in Heaven since I don't believe in eternal punishment as justfication. This may go against my Christian beliefs but it's how I truly feel and if I'm wrong... oh well.

['Is there a point where we should reject a powerful tyrant's authority even at great risk of personal injury?']

Yeah if you want to go to hell. I don't."
- +BAD CHRISTIAN+(a.k.a. russell182), PayableOnDeath BBS


[Replying to questions of how it can possibly be fair to condemn people based on religion] "Jews, still waiting for the Messiah. They saw Jesus, knew He was the Messiah but chose not to believe Him. The reason the Jews didn't believe in Him was because He didn't typify what God's son would look like. Jesus was plain looking and rejected even among His desciples. The Jews hated Christ.

Islam is really Satans religion. The Muslims accept Christ as a prophet from God but believe Muhammed to be the son of God. The Muslims also believe the OT and NT to be valid forms of doctrine. Now why would God want 'terrorism' to be the main focus of religion. Simply read the Quran, and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Christianity is the one TRUE religion. Jesus Christ is the Son of God. We are taught everything Good in this world. God is from the light, there is no darkness in him and as soon as your realise this then you'll see why other religions are wrong. Muslims, Jews, Atheists etc may never change their word because Satan is deceiving them into believing they are right... I can only pray for them."
- +BAD CHRISTIAN+(a.k.a. russell182), PayableOnDeath BBS


[Told to another theist who was rationally questioning the doctrine of Hell as illogical and unfair] "I seriously recommend you don't apply science to death. It will lead you to convince yourself of arguements that simply deceive you. Eternal life comes through faith, nothing more... nothing less."
- +BAD CHRISTIAN+(a.k.a. russell182), PayableOnDeath BBS


[Regarding the David Westerfield trial where the defendant was convicted of murdering a 7-year old girl] "I think the motive was rape, and I think Westerfield got that sick motive in his head from all that hentai [Japanese animated pornography]."
- Susan, ChristianForums


"I hope he rots in jail. Maybe that will shock other hentais into seeing the possible consequences. and then they will get the help they need"
- Susan, ChristianForums


"Fundamentalist Christianity must be used to combat Fundamentalist Islam. Evil doesn't destroy itself. The murder would be justified in Gods eyes because it is for a greater more peaceful cause."
- +BAD CHRISTIAN+(a.k.a. russell182), PayableOnDeath BBS


[on Christian militants and going to war for God] "I'd much rather chill and scripture about it. But if GOD said " Take him/her camping " That's it. Sorry! Nothing personal!"
- Sold under Sin (embodiment777), PayableOnDeath BBS


"He can not be disproven either!!
Faith is all we need to belive and have proof of GOD.
although i can not prove God YOU can not disprove GOD. Thank you.
geez why are u all so thick headed u dont have faith? or too lazy to belive? plz read the proof! The bible. "
- bob_the_warrior, PayableOnDeath BBS


"God clearly instructs us to worship Himself... the Holy Trinity. If you do not then you worship another God and this is called Idolatory which condemns you to Hell. Thus explains the reason why Jews and Muslims go to Hell."
- +BAD CHRISTIAN+(a.k.a. russell182), PayableOnDeath BBS


[Replying to 'Hell is bullshit'] "Uh, I heard recent "scientific" discovery that the core of our earth...that's right, that hot, steaming core. Apparently, some scientists shoved some microphone below the earth's surface, and they recorded agonizing screams of human misery.

Not to mention the irrefutable Nine Gates of Hell scattered around the earth. If you're skeptical, may I suggest that you visit at least one of them?"
- Machina WEAPON, GameFAQs


"I'm a Christian, and I'm going to stick with that because thats the way I was Brought up."
- Mahonster88, GameFAQs


[Arguing for Mormonism] "Like I said before, because it is true, I will have no problem beating you in this argument. It's hard not to prove right what is already right."
- traniton, BlizzForums


[On human overpopulation] "You obviously haven't taken a long drive thourgh the central part of America now have you? Do that and see how much frikin land is there and tell me then the world is over populated."
- RiziK17, BlizzForums


"You have to believe with your mind before you can think with your heart, and your not going to believe in your mind if you don't wish to. "
- Jasen, PayableOnDeath BBS


"And dictionary's are not as reliable as the Bible. uh Duh."
- AX/XC Long Distance Runner, PayableOnDeath BBS


[After insisting he answer whether he would kill children had he been an ancient Hebrew if he thought God had ordered it] "Although I wouldn't be too happy about it, yes. That and try to help out some of them. Duh. That's what the Hebrews did.

No, wait. I can barely hurt a fly. I wouldn't be a soldier. I'd be on of the people taken by the Amekalites and become a slave. Darn.

'course that's how wars work. Kill the other guy before they can kill you. You've seen what children can do (or should have). I just wonder...were the children attacking the soldiers or not? In Palestine, the kids throw rocks at the soldiers. I wonder...?"
- Elric, BlizzForums


[After being asked if Hell makes any sense at all] "Absolutely not. The only reason I believe in hell is cause it's in the Bible and since I believe the Bible to be Gods word then I believe there's a hell. If it wasn't in the Bible then I would thinks it's a fantasy and untrue."
- +BAD CHRISTIAN+(a.k.a. russell182), PayableOnDeath BBS


"Id rather believe in the bible.....then anything else..why? I don't need any reason but faith."
- Fredbear, PayableOnDeath BBS


"Show me where THIS comes from. I've never heard of homosexuality any time before the twentieth century."
- traniton, BlizzForums


[Replying to a request for good anti-evolution literature for a school report] "The best book that I ever came across that showed evolution to be false was, and is, the BIBLE. You know, where it says "God created......."

However, if you don't believe the Bible, well......"
- cheezit, RaptureReady


"This shows the ACLU's true colors...
It was founded and it is run by COMMUNISTS.

They dont care about anyone but their twisted brethren who hate the US FLAG,hate CHRISTIANITY,hate CONSERVATIVE VALUES.

That is why I support JAY SEKULOW and the AMERICAN CENTER LAW AND JUSTICE(a real HUMAN RIGHTS GROUP)

http://www.aclj.org"
- billiefan2000, RaptureReady


"The themes in Star Wars may seem innocent on the surface, but if you look at them closely (and if you look at the man who invented the series), they are as distant from God's truth as they can get. But it's just a bunch of movies, right? Wrong. The subculture of the movies (which I was actively involved with, yes, even as a Christian) does the same thing Harry Potter does with children...gets people very interested in philosophies outside of scripture (the Force is claimed by some as a real religion, and for others as a political affiliation. There are people who will write in Jedi on forms as their political party of choice or religion).

Let's look at the movies. They involve reading minds; the concept that an impersonal force rules our actions and not a personal God; they involve talking with the dead; manipulation of others with a thought. That's just for starters. I have seen people go deeply into eastern religions and new age because of these movies, as well. And, although I was called a liar for daring to suggest it, there are magazines called "zines" which deal more and more within this fandom and others, with homosexuality between the main characters. The genre is called "slash," as in Han/Luke; Chewie/Han, etc.

Are these movies fun? Oh, indeed! No one would get involved with them if they weren't."
- faline, RaptureReady


[On evolution being taught in public schools] "One word... homeschool"
- terriv, RaptureReady


[On homosexual men] "Geez, who likes sodomy anyway?"
- catgurl, PayableOnDeath BBS


"There is no such thing as Christian Homophobia. Yes homosexual lifestyles can tear a family apart, especially if some members disagree with it and don't voice there opinions in Godly love. It is more likely in Christian house holds as we as Christians are not to support sin. Yes some people on this forum have shown hate for homosexuals; it doesn't mean it's a uniform Christian belief. I've seen more non-Christian "Homophobics" than Christian."
- khazul, PayableOnDeath BBS


*** Post of the Month for August 2002 ***

[Replying to thread started by another Christian; the topic title was provocative, but what was said was that the Bible should be respected but taken with a grain of salt because it was written for the ancients] "too long, didnt read, but i completely disagree with your thread title and it doesnt matter what you wrote, because you can never prove that your right. so shut up and stop trying to destroy the faith of the people that truly believe in the bible. your really stupid if you tink you can convince people that the bible is wrong, because its not wrong, its right because i believe its right."
- Treylis, PayableOnDeath BBS

"Here are my theory's on Homosexuality.

Its just a Fetish. It's a kinky sexual perversion that people convince themselves to be born with."
- IdonedidDAT, PayableOnDeath BBS


"Bisexual's are the saddest of all. At least Choose one. Lets not forget what happened to SWEDEN for being neutral."
- IdonedidDAT, PayableOnDeath BBS


[Presumptously commenting on bisexual lifestyle] "i'm sure you'll think this ignorant, but if you could swing either way, why not dump the homosexual relationship and persue the heterosexual relationship that you wish you could have? as far as attractions, we all got them and if you want to fulfill your obligation to monogamy, you just don't act on them."
- fatherphil, PayableOnDeath BBS


"Oh, hey all you evolutionists that think you have proof that your faith is the correct one, you should contact Dr. Kent Hovind at www.drdino.com because he'll pay you $250,000 if you can give him just one shred of truth about your religion of evolution. Go for it ... since you surely sound convinced. Oh by the way, since there is not one shred of evidence proving evolution, that would make it a faith or a religion (since that is what you call Creationism). Therefore, it should not be taught in public schools because after all, doesn't that violate church-and-state rules we've fabricated into the Constitution of the United States?

P.S. Let me know when you get that $250,000. I will be the first to congratulate you."
- jcdiedforall, ChristianForums


"Let's talk darwinism 101. All that crap you just articulated has nothing to do with basic evolution of the species. Do you even have a degree?
I don't mean to sound condescending but maybe this rhetorical question will give you a clue: How do both humans and birds dodge falling objects without knowledge of the mathematical laws of gravity?"
- WJ, Internet Infidels


"And just think of all the people killed and deceived at Satan’s hands. The top 5 killers of all time were either Satanist or Atheists. Does Hitler or Stalin ring a bell? Why don't you consider that? You are a fool Trickster you have believed the great deceiver!"
- nodmailoc, PayableOnDeath BBS


"Ooh!
It's kneejerk atheistic reaction!
Now listen.
Wisdom comes from God.
Therefore anyone who knows and speaks to God on a daily basis is going to be fairly wise."
- Elric, BlizzForums


"Since when are diests not a subset of Christians? I consider myself both a Christian and a Diest, though I have a fairly unique set of beliefs. I don't see why the belief that God designed the world for us to try to understand excludes the belief in Jesus as savior."
- Darkmage, PayableOnDeath BBS


"Starting August 1st I got a promotion! Right before that we were looking into buying a brand new car, so the timing was perfect. Isn't God good?! Yes!"
- MrsLARep, PayableOnDeath BBS


"masturbation IS rape! In your head or whatever the sick fuck uses to get off, it's mental rape. and it's totally demon-induced."
- rockman, PayableOnDeath BBS


"Masturbation is the begining of other problems, take for example ted bundy, he confessed to begining with masturbation and it turned into going to prostitutes and then raping and killing young girls and doing ungodly things to there bodys after he killed them, this is not something that is natural, no matter how much some of you talk about how much you enjoy it it is not worth the consequences, it really isnt. I was addicted to it for 7 years, and through Christ I was set free from it, there is hope it is not something that cannot be defeated, I know how hopless some feel to that you cannot get out of it, the sex drive is second to food, so it is not easy and it cannot be done on your own but through Christ it is possible, I am a perfect example of it."
- Jah's humble servant, PayableOnDeath BBS


[More on masturbation] "THEY FEEL THAT THEY HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE THIS WOMAN HAVE SEX WITH THEM. IF THEY HAD THIS SAME POWER IN REAL LIFE WOULD THEY GO THROUGH WITH IT? DO YOU NOT GET IT?! THAT WOULD BE RAPE.."
- rockman, PayableOnDeath BBS


[Even more!] "WELL IT IS, IT'S MENTAL RAPE. A PERSON HAVING SEX WITH SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T HAVE THE CONSENT OF THAT PERSON SOUNDS LIKE RAPE TO ME."
- rockman, PayableOnDeath BBS


[Everyone knows that personal experience wins the argument once and for all] "Trying to make it less of a sin, huh my friend? I know a rape victim, and we also knew the rapist. Apparently he felt it wasn't enough out of her just to see her. A fucking kid's life ruined because some horny fuck needed "more of a response" from his subject."
- rockman, PayableOnDeath BBS


"Jesus came as a male, because otherwise he would not have been accepted and would not have been able to liberate the women as he did."
- Tarmac, PayableOnDeath BBS


[Arguing that God is definitely male and women are subservient] "If Jesus is God, then Jesus always has been, and is also the Spirit. (stay with me here) Jesus created man in his image. Woman was taken out of man's side and created. Man was directly created from Jesus, while woman was created from Adam's rib, Jesus created woman out of his already existing creation. He created both in his image: (woman) was created with God off of (man) who was created by God who is Jesus.
[...]
Jesus has always been a male, if He is God. Regardless of how society developed, Jesus has always been male, and wouldn't change to be a female because He would be untrue to his true form of male characteristics. The reason He was accepted by them and was able to liberate women as he did, was because Jesus created man and then created woman out of man's side through His(Jesus) almight power, and as such man was made superior over woman, and this became customary out of society. But I must stress this, Jesus is God, God has always been, God creates man out of his own image, and then creates woman out of the image of man and Himself, and Jesus is a male."
- freeborn, PayableOnDeath BBS


"Ok heres the truth. Evolution is false, and Creation is true. You ask how's that. Well First off Im a Chistian and I know that God Created the Universe, and second how can something so Beautiful just appear like that? Its impossible. I mean Baseball or Basketball or cars just didnt appear just like that they have to be thought about and then they have to be created. So thats my explanation."
- GfreakWarrior, PayableOnDeath BBS


[Proof that some people simply shouldn't be armchair linguists] "The word 'god' means 'good'.
To sin means to consciously and deliberately do something not good.

The two terms are contradictory. God cannot sin."
- Patty, ChristianForums


[Defending God-endorsed murder, rape and genocide in the Old Testament] "You completely miss the overall plan of God and you still won't 'get it.'"
- ladylove, ChristianForums


[On the tower of Babel] "Plus there is this lil dude named Satan? yeah. As long as the people did not beleive in God, there are then capabilities that Satan could give them... ungodly wisdom maybe??? Wow, look at our world today!! We know millions of languages."

- ArchxAngel, PayableOnDeath BBS


"Ungodly wisdom is wisdom that does not involve God.
"Avoid useless and unGodly chatter..." Wisdom too maybe?

We are to Think holy.

Godly wisdom (speaking in tngues) glorifies God. Trying to figure out other peoples language for no good reason does not. Infact, it causes wars more than peace..."
- ArchxAngel, PayableOnDeath BBS


":::sigh:: no one can prove evolution either, or anything else... 'cause we can't go back in time and observe the beginning or re-create it or whatever else. but if you look around at the intricacies of everything i think that you'll realize that it didn't happen by chance, and in fact there is historical proof, aka the Bible, that all that did occur. go ahead and set out in the world to disprove it 'cause you can't..."
- x akasean x, PayableOnDeath BBS


"The continued existence of the Jews proves there is a God. (Think about what this means for a moment).

Why would man develop a religious system like Judaism then spend all of his time rejecting it? Surely man would come up with something easier."
- Chilocanth, PayableOnDeath BBS


[On atheists who were formerly believers] "They were never geniune Christians in the first place. If they were, they would have remained with Jesus, but they left as apostates."
- ladylove, ChristianForums


[After being asked whether he seriously believes it was fair of God to have bears maul 42 youths for calling Elisha a bald guy] "Absolutely. A prophet, by definition, is the mouthpiece of God used by Him to declare the judgment that will come upon certain nations or areas (foretelling and forthtelling). The youths were aware of this. Why the strict judgment? They were openly mocking who they knew to be the prophet of the nations, and they were unknowingly mocking God Himself by doing so. These youths came from the city - that implies knowledge of who Elisha claimed to be. They were sarcastically taunting and insulting the Lord's prophet by telling him to repeat Elijah's translation ("go up"). Mocking one who has a mission to proclaim God's judgment is not a smart idea. Thus, the youths were judged."
- Received, ChristianForums


"Ask your doctor. I ask GOD to take away my headaches and they're gone. A headache is from your white blood cells swelling up. Stress, nerves!"
- embodiment777, PayableOnDeath BBS


"Unfortunately, some don't see the shame is such a lifestyle and that is why they promote it and endorse it in everyway to the youth of America. They are cleverly trying to utilize the influence of the public educational system to promote their agenda. You say the "gay lifestyle" is NOT a belief system, then please explain to me why there are Gay Churches???? Sounds like a belief system to me my good friend. "
- learboy, PayableOnDeath BBS


"The problem in these "developing countries" is that you got people screwing everything that moves. Look at Africa rite now, the reason that you're having that huge AIDS epidemic over there is cause nobody's limiting themselves to just their spouse(s). No amount of condomns is gonna solve the problems being caused there, just abstinence. OOOOHHHHH I just said a bad word there. I'll say it again. Abstinence. Is it too much to ask people to control themselves until they get married?"
- punk4jesus, PayableOnDeath BBS


"My thoughts are that I don't hate anyone. Your beliefs are your GOD given free will. Christian wicca??? If has anything to do with wicca,m than according to my Christian faith it's a cult!"
- embodiment777, PayableOnDeath BBS


"But Kuuenbu, "Creation" is held by its adherants to be as much of a "theory" as is "Evolution" by its adherants. Both are actually religious doctrines (of Christianity and Humanism, respectively) and "origin-myths" (to swipe a phrase from anthropology), it's just that most (though not all) Humanists are willing to admit it."
- Asahel, PayableOnDeath BBS


[Responding to 'Any people here that aren't pagan, christian, or atheist?'] "Gotta re-configure this one for us Christians!
If you're not Christian, you're pagan(of the world)

And I don't think there are any aliens on the forum."
- embodiment777, PayableOnDeath BBS


"I have no problem with the word "prove", but you evos do have problems with the word "proof"---i.e. you can't provide any. Anybody can provide "evidence", but evidence can be interpreted in different ways, even Darwin admitted that.

Thank you for confessing that evolution hasn't been proven. Exactly what I've been saying all along."
- ChristianSoldier, ChristianForums


[After deciding to stop arguing that evolution shouldn't be taught because it's a 'religion'] "Ok, fine, anything which cannot be proven [shouldn't be taught], there satisfied. Good. Don't teach it or teach em all."
- DofTheForeverTribe, PayableOnDeath BBS


[Right after quoting a biologist who wrote 'When scientists speak of evolution as a theory they do not mean that it is a mere speculation. It is a theory in the same sense as the proposition that the Earth is round rather than flat is a theory']

"So, even in the scientific community evolution has not been proven to be valid."
- DeadMan Walking, PayableOnDeath BBS


[On the rapture being a totally ridiculous, implausible idea] "'True until disproved'

The thoughts and idea of a rapture is no more far off then your guy's idea of evolution.

Once again, back at 0."
- ArchxAngel, PayableOnDeath BBS


[On relationships] "Jesus said that we must be willing to hate our brothers and sisters to pick up the cross and follow HIM. If GOD wants you two together, you'll be together. If not, let go, focus on GOD. HE will deliver to you what is to be!

Much Love
E777"
- embodiment777, PayableOnDeath BBS


*** Post of the Week for August 18-24, 2002 ***

"Homosexuality is a "belief system" in my opinion, which adheres to certain beliefs which are contrary to Christian beliefs."
- learboy, PayableOnDeath BBS


[Replying to 'does your 12-year old think the stork delivered him?' on a topic where he asks how to explain sex to the kid] "and he just answered to the second question "yes"."
- fatherphil, PayableOnDeath BBS


[When asked why, if sorcerers exist, we don't see any one of them displaying fantastic powers] "they dont run around shooting lightning bolts or flying on broomsticks, or battling for the quidditch cup

go to your local big book store and pick up one of the wicca books - in the new age section

they cant do shit really - but they can do some small things and it is all demonic however much they deny it is"
- Gerrard Pedersen, PayableOnDeath BBS


[Apparently defending the notion that HIV doesn't cause AIDS] "Simply enough, I know the BIBLE speaks of JESUS casting out the demons in people who appeared to have tourettes and other sorts. I'm pretty sure the same goes as diseases."
- embodiment777, PayableOnDeath BBS


[After being asked whether he's in effect saying that sick people should be exorcised instead of being treated by doctors] "I can't remember the exact verses. But the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are are full of them. So yes that is what I'm saying.
If you don't believe that then you are denying the WORD of GOD!"
- embodiment777, PayableOnDeath BBS


[On the idea that HIV doesn't cause AIDS] "That is way out there. The HIV virus develops into AIDS. AIDS can be a consequence of your sin, a divine punishment. But the virus is involved. God uses the virus."
- TwistedSketch, PayableOnDeath BBS


[After being asked to explain what sin was commited by babies and blood transfusion recipients to warrant AIDS] "I said it can be, not always. In the case of sexual immorality, it is. Not in the case of the baby. And not in the case of most transfusions, either, unless they had done something horrible and hadn't repented."
- TwistedSketch, PayableOnDeath BBS


[After being asked if he really believes diseases are caused by demons, and why Christians can get them along with everyone else if that's the case] "Crashdog:
Strangely enough, are you pure? Absolutely not! I am sure of that. You are human, You live in sin.

And yes I believe that.

my proof:
I spent 3 years as an injecting drug user. everyday. I shared spoons. ( Never needles) I was involved with people who had every kind of hepatitis and all sorts of other nastey things.( no insult intended)
U had a cold for the whole time.
I quit cold turkey, no withdrawl, and proved a clean blood test.
This proves what the BIBLE says. I have tasted the sulfur as some presense leaves your body. Brothers and sisters it tastes bad. Once it's gone, you can walk in peace.
Truly I don't care what you think but Hey it happened in my life. Maybe you'll never experience something like this."
- embodiment777, PayableOnDeath BBS


[After being asked to answer some questions to clarify his position on medicine] "Ok Crash I'll answer your questions. However I'll answer them according to my faith.

['Do you believe that bacterial infections do not exist?'] 1.I believe bacterial infections do exist, but if you live a pure and Godly life in Christ, then you won't have to worry. (Bible quote: Even their poison will not harm you)

['Do you not believe in viruses?'] 2. Same answer as #1

['Do you believe that mental diseases are caused by demon possesion?'] 3.yes I do

['Do you believe that sickness is simply demonic influence or perhaps a direct result of sin?'] 4. A direct result from sin is demonic influence. (The day you taste the sulfur will make you believe this.)

['I'm trying to understand if you're totally contradicting hundreds of years of medicinal research or just in some way explaining it in spiritual terms.'] 5. Medicinal expertise has nothing on GOD. The answers above should give you what you need.

If I can help you with anything else let me know.
Peace
E"
- embodiment777, PayableOnDeath BBS


"God does not cause sickness and disease. When you sin (Christian or not), you move out of the covering of God and are susceptible.

Additionally, God created doctors and gave them the knowledge. Use commen sense and see a doctor if you have a problem. "
- POD_CHRISTIANS?, PayableOnDeath BBS


[Replying to accusations of doublethink] "I don't care what Orwell has to say or anyone else for that matter. What GOD has said is all that matters."
- embodiment777, PayableOnDeath BBS


"I've got jury duty this week. I was able to postpone it from spring break until now. So could you guys pray for me to either not get selected (since fall semester is starting real soon) or if I do to makie the judgement God would have me make and somehow handle the load of that, work, and school. Thank you."
- TwistedSketch, PayableOnDeath BBS


[On what they'll be doing in heaven once they get there] "To answer the point of this thread...

We (who are saved) will be judging angels, haveing a 1000 year millenial reign with God as heavenly host, while the jews are in a eutopia on earth due the fact that Satan is bound.

This is after the tribulation....

PM me if you have any questions."
- ArchxAngel, PayableOnDeath BBS


[On why he believes pagans object to Christianity] "It reduces your social life to zilch. He/She's merely providing an excuse so they can do bad stuff and think they get away wif it. "
- +BAD CHRISTIAN+(a.k.a. russell182), PayableOnDeath BBS


[In response to allegations of people altering the Bible] "Theres no doubt in my mind that God would not let his word be altered in any way he did not want it to be. If Sodam and Gomorah were struck dead just 4 lying, then why can't some monk be struck dead?"
- discombobulated, PayableOnDeath BBS


"My reasons for doubting are simple, yet incredibly hard to explain. Let me say this: look at modern dogs. They vary so much in size, shape, and other characteristics, yet they are all dogs and are produced not by Evolution (chance mutations with survival of the fittest) but by their built-in ability to reproduce. Yet, if you were to give me a plethora of modern dog bones (died within the last few years), I could eventually assemble them in such a way as to make one set of bones appear to be an evolved version of another set. And I could easy do such a thing by insinuating (and assuming) that any "gaps" in my little "evolutionary record" are simply fossils that haven't been found yet, or have been destroyed by whatever means."
- Arctic Fox, PayableOnDeath BBS


"Thanks for having a site like this! It bothers me so much when people still believe all the lies Darwin made up 100 years ago. He was a product of Satan and his only goal was to distort the truth and confuse believers."
- dave, CreationTalk


[On the individual books comprising the Bible being written by different authors over the span of many years] "Just because it says that each book was written by a different person doesn't mean that it was.

Think of it this way, if the record that "The Inferno" was written by Dante, not just starring Dante, was lost during publication, people might have falsely accepted it as fact. We might have the Book of Dante."
- squareandrare, GameFAQs


"One more thing: Evolutionists; Do you really believe Humans evolved from one celled or multi celled organisms, then to amphibians, then to birds, alligators, then monkeys etc?

Or do you only believe in the evolution that deals with Natural Selection and adaptation dictated by environment, therefore Humans bypassed many different species? Like passed the reptilian phase and straight from Amphibian to bird to monkey, etc.?

Do you really think the world is that old? It would take billions and billions of years to evolve to human, Don't forget some knowledgable scientists believe the world to be quite young and also have evidence to possibly support their claims."
- Iron Maiden, ChristianForums


*** Post of the Week for August 11-27, 2002 ***

"Did you know that all bulls are males? How can these bulls mate to have more bulls? It's your funeral evolutionists. Admit evolution is a pathetic fantasy created by scientists because they can't accept God."
- Eternal, Internet Infidels


[After being told 'they mate with cows, you idiot'] "Then, why don't the bulls that are born have some bull like features and cow spots? If a bull mates with a cow, wouldn't you get a female eventually? Evolution is dead water."
- Eternal, Internet Infidels


"The Argument from design.

Points on Earth which exhibits design.

1) Rotating Earth.
2) The sun shining on the earth at just the right angle to produce life and enough energy.
3) Just the right atmosphere needed for life.
4) Plants breathe out what we breathe in.
5) A cell can't form in one spot and then migrate to every place on earth to fill it with cells.
6) Ants can't do that either. How did ants get to different parts of the world?
7) Just the right atmosphere for the earth to produce grass for the cows to eat.
8) How did grass grow first? I don't see grass on any other planets. Hmmm. Thank God for that sun.
9) The miracle of childbirth. It can't just evolve like that.
10) The sun stays in the sky instead of falling down. Gravity should be pulling it down but it just stays right up there. Hmmmm...interesting.
11) We are smart. If we share a common ancestor with monkeys, I found it remarkable that we are so smart and they are so dumb. How did we get so smart?

These are all points for where a God is needed to explain them. No rational human being can think of a rational explanation for all of this. I hope I convinced someone. "
- Eternal, Internet Infidels


"Penis and vagina as proof of God?

I know it seems vague but think about it. The penis can pee and have semen come out of it. Only a good designer can make it this way. Did it just "evolve" this way? How is that even possible? It is complex. The way babies are made is truly beautiful. Do you think there is no God after watching a baby grow and develop in the womb? How can it just evolve like that?"
- Eternal, Internet Infidels


[On genetic research leading to increased life spans] "A much simpler method for attaining immortality would be to accept God's gift of eternal life, hmmn?"
- The Apologist, GameFAQs


"I have converted 7 MILITANT ATHEISTS to YEC. You might find it hard to believe, but, which atheist wouldn't? Before we engage in discussion about YEC vs. evolution, take a look at these 2 sites and try to read with an open mind.
http://www.trueorigin.org/9908.htm (debate between a creationist and some evolutionists.
www.trueorigin.org (exposing the myth of evolution)"
- Eternal, Internet Infidels


"Those crazy "scientists" have never produced a human from a bunch of monkeys! Not one different type of cell in MILLIONS of generations of E.coli, nope, they are all still E.coli. Why can't they make dragonflies from fruitflies? If I can't believe in God because I havn't touched Him (well, I have, "spiritually") or havn't seen Him (well I have, "spiritually") then why should I believe in evolution because "smart" people tell me to? I havn't touched or seen a "macro-evolved creature". Have you?

I'm not trying to insult any evolutionists here, but if a certain test MUST be applied to Christianity, why can't it be applied to evolution?"
- SirLagalott, ChristianForums


"Do you believe in things that are not proven? Or do you need proof first? For example, I had pizza for dinner. Do you believe me or do you need proof? If you believe me without proof, why can't you believe in God with no proof?"
- Eternal, Internet Infidels


"You need to go back and read the posts. The question is NOT vague at all. If you exist, were you created? It cannot be any simpler or clearer. If you are created (by means of sperm & egg) then, there must have been a creator. Going back through a long line of making out, the must have been the "original" egg and sperm. That must  have self-created (logically impossible) or been created (by God). It is EXACTLY like pregnancy.

That's the problem with you atheists. You lose yourself in all your little doubts and assumptions and "it depends on"s. If you don't want to open your eyes, nobody can help you understand us."
- Macbeth, ChristianForums


[After being asked to show evidence for God's existence] "theres no way to prove it without seeing him but about 30 years ago science heard a radioactive "boom" lost in space. it has been guessed to hav been the boom from the earths creation. scientists hav also discovered a great square mass of matter out in space believed to be heaven."
- punkrocker71, PayableOnDeath BBS


[After being mocked for misrepresenting Newton's laws] "i dont know if u have ever took science class. i think it was newton who discovered it. one of the things he said in the law is "what comes up must come down."

and by the way. there is no law of evolution. darwin the founder even has said it is a theory. and to this day it is not proven. neither is creation but there is more proof to support chritianity than evolution."
- punkrocker71, PayableOnDeath BBS


[On being asked why Christianity should be taken more seriously than any other religion] "cause of all the proof available. its historically acurate. non-christian manuscripts describe things in it like the flood and jonah and the whale which people wouldnt regularly believe in. one dude wrote that the skys did turn black early and the was an earthquake and people did rise from the dead when Jesus was crucified. And he wasnt a Christian until he saw it all."
- punkrocker71, PayableOnDeath BBS


"i didnt get the "boom" and the great mass of matter info off a website. i got it from a professional apolitic professor. He has been studying this for more than thirty years. I dont know where he got this information but i will try to get a website for you. That is your opinion. that is the evolutionists opinion. for evolutionists, the earth took 2.8 billion years to form. It used to be much more. now evolutionists are thinking the earth has only been around for a few thousand years which is more accurate. and dont tell me this is lying crap i got off the net. i heard it on the news."
- punkrocker71, PayableOnDeath BBS


[After being asked to explain why chickens have genes coding for teeth if evolution is incorrect] "u give a good argument. in revelation it says that the birds and vultures will eat the many dead. There are some species of birds that do have teeth. The "tooth" gene may have just been a gene that was given to all birds just like the beak or flaps [so they could eat people??]. i will do more research on this and get back on it."
- punkrocker71, PayableOnDeath BBS


[After each one of his previous hilarious, incredibly stupid claims was painfully refuted] "some of ur stuff was correct...but a bunch of it was crap. let me take another look at it and ill let u know whats wrong"
- punkrocker71, PayableOnDeath BBS


[Attacking Norse mythology and saying it's unbelievable and unsubstantiated] "Oh ok, but the bible records the conception of humanity.

You know a lot about the bible huh Freodin? Do you know of a more believable account of humanities origin? Or are you an evolutionist."
- Badfish, ChristianForums


[Arguing against genetic algorithms and evolution] "Think about it for a minute: Software does not exist on the computer, but rather in the minds of software engineers. "
- Vanderzyden, Internet Infidels


"And why do some many non-Christians get married? I mean, marriage is an institution created by God. It shows up in the bible initially. There is no other evidence that it came from somehwhere else."
- Macbeth, ChristianForums


"There are many atheists who claim to be such because there is "absolutely no proof whatsoever" that supports the existence of God. Yet, many of these same people will tell you that they firmly believe that there is intellegent life elsewhere in the universe, even though there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that would support such a claim."
- TScott, ChristianForums


[After being called on out-of-context quotes and asked to present actual evidence against evolution or refute the evidence for evolution] "I will use quotes from expert authority any time I wish. My quotes are far more accurate and revealing than anything you have posted. You're the one who desperately needs to raise your level on several counts, not just debate."
- Christian Soldier, ChristianForums


"I read a book recently called the Isbane Conspiracy, it was a great book and i made me open my eyes. Book and movies and even tv shows marketed toward young people are basically of the devil. Harry Potter give a child the idea that witchcraft is fun and not harmful. When in real life it is very real and not of God. Why would a believer think it is ok for anyone to read or watch something that outright goes against the teaching of His Word!!!
Read it though The Ishbane Conpiracy, it will change the way you look at things!!"
- galaxy, PayableOnDeath BBS


[on Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings] "My kids don't read ANY of those authors. They read the Bible. They read childrens Bible stories. They read books by Christian authors. Fantasy books like that, DO NOT, enrich the mind. FACTS enrich the mind. My children LOVE History, Science, and Literature. They have NEVER read ANY of those books. We do not have cable. They do not watch fantasy movies.

The LEADING cause of ignorance and stupidity in society today is the lack of intelligent literature being read. Schools today teach evolution, then read about witches, wardrobes, lions, tigers and bears oh my. "
- isthisforrealorwhat, PayableOnDeath BBS


*** Post of the Week for August 4-10, 2002 ***

[On killing people who worship idols] "Please rule it out with scripture. The NT instructs us not to murder. Murder is unlawful killing. But if we were to kill idolaters wouldn't that be justified in Gods eyes? "
- russell182, PayableOnDeath BBS


"Christians have simply perceived God. We have witnessed His moving in the lives of others, and have intuited His presence and guidance in our own lives.

This is the most important aspect of our faith; this is what makes our faith personal and experienced. There are other, less important contributions to Christian faith, such as historical, scientific, and philosophical evidence and the profound overall coherence of Christianity as a worldview, but these are negligible when compared to the Christian experience."
- The Apologist, GameFAQs Boards


"One of the chief reasons for getting married is to raise children in the faith and fear of God. If a couple knows that they are barren, and they have no intention to adopt, etc... to have a child, then I wouldn't officiate at their wedding. The issue is the openness to life."
- Fr. Rob, ChristianForums


"The ONLY circumstance that I can see any form of contraception as being OK in is an instance where the contraceptive is not being used as a contraceptive. For instance, the Pill is often perscribed to women with Endometriosis. I would prefer that doctors embrace other means of caring for women in this situation, and if they do not seek other means, but simply perscribe the Pill out of personal convienece, I would find another doctor.

The principal, biblical reason for marriage is the begetting of Children. Of course, in our day, those couples who are unable to concieve can (and should!) adopt.

While sex is a good thing, and is a act in which a husband and wife are to be joyful in. . . sex divorced from it's principal God-given intent is sinful and wrong."
- Fr. Rob, ChristianForums


"I'm almost 17 (not quite as long, but it's still a while), and I've never been on a date or kissed a girl. It's not that I couldn't get a girlfriend or anything like that, I've just chosen to concentrate on other things. Not having a girlfriend gives me the opportunity to spend more time with God and become closer to Him."
- misterniceguy, PayableOnDeath BBS


"The Atheist peoples are scared of change.

That's the main thing holding Atheists back from God. A fear of change. So when Christians talk about God they get all cut and slander Christians cause they are trying to justify the sinful world they live in. Hence their belief in evolution.

The peoples who created the big bang theory know it's bullshit... but they've convinced themselves in their minds that it's truth... cause they're afraid of change and having their egos destroyed.
But we as Christians know what is truth... not only in our heads but also in our hearts. We know what's truth cause we feel the truth and the heart doesn't lie. And that is why evolution will never destroy what faith we have."
- russell182, PayableOnDeath BBS


"God is real, and therefore of course is "real by default". There are any number of perfectly good reasons why you yourself don't believe in God, all of them coincide nicely with what the Bible says about people who refuse the knowledge of the truth.

Because God is real, and because you use false assertions, basically lies, to deny His reality, and refuse to even discuss the issue in a rational way, supposing for the sake of argument that the matter is as yet unsettled, but rather insist that God, who reveals Himself to all through conscience and through the natural world, has somehow magically never revealed Himself to you personally, I am safe in my understanding. I need not open my mind or question my beleifs fully, because the default position is that God is real and that you are a liar going to hell."
- Shane Roach, ChristianForums


"Yeah I like this side of the fence. We can be weak and not have the ability to resist our fleshly lusts. All of this we can do without a loving being breathing down our necks warning us of the danger we are in. And on top of all that fun, we get to go to hell! Woooo hooooo! I just can't wait.

Atheism - For the Common sense impaired.

Du, that's Pathetic."
- G.I.Verbs: The new M.C.Swirl, PayableOnDeath BBS


"So radioactive decay automatically makes the universe 4.3 billion years old (or whatever the current running number is)? However when a more relevant and fully substantiated source, such as the Bible, says otherwise... one is compelled to wonder."
- sbbqb7n16, ChristianForums


"Muslim = BAD. It doesn't matter if they're extremists or normal they're still MUSLIMS. Muslims are responsible for a huge amount of crime throughout the world. There is an overwhelming amount of world crime caused by Muslims doing what they consider 'normal'. That includes Christian bashing, rape of white women and murder. Islam when practiced according to its faith is not the problem. It's the false Muslims who shape it. Islam is out of control and must be taken care of. God bless America."
- russell182, PayableOnDeath BBS


"The question is why would we try to protect life. Life makes absolutely no sense, if there is no God. We would all be cosmic accidents floating through time and space. It would not matter at all if I killed someone or not and I would not feel guilty about it. I may not kill someone as a result of rational thinking about the consequences, but I would not feel guilty about it. But most people do in fact feel guilty. If I were ever to think that there was no God, I would immediately kill myself, but not before wiping out a few cities, raping a bunch of women and wreaking other havoc. I mean, why shouldn't I. Because I would go to prison? No I wouldn't. Before being arrested I would kill a few more people and then put the gun to my head. The only reason for not doing any of that is that it would be wrong. How do I know it's wrong? I just know. Because God made me that way, NOT because society told me so because it happens to be more convenient."
- Macbeth, ChristianForums


[on alleged extraterrestrial visitation] "I believe they are demons and angels. The bible describes the angels as riding 'chariots of fire.'"
- CiaraBeth, PayableOnDeath BBS


"hey, i just thought i would tell you that using an [magic] 8 ball is sorcery...it opens up the door for satan to attack you. just letting you know. i would ask forgiveness and get rid of it i were you."
- Jehovah is Love, PayableOnDeath BBS


"some more signs of end of times

im just giving a few. ill keep on giving a few throughout forever.

1.one family in florida has already volunteered to have a chip put in their hands so they can buy food and water. They are testing it out and so far things are going well.

2. In NC some citys are saying that its a law the government periodically must come in the house and make sure things are safe.(an invasion of privacy)

3. In 2007-2010 somewhere in that timeline everyhome will be required to have a computer chip in the tv so that if an emergency needs to be broadcasted even if the tv is off it will turn on and announce it. also being put in with the chip (some secret information i got from a friend who works for the government) will be a camera so that the government can watch you.

4. In Revelation it says the vultures will eat the dead. Vultures used to lay only 2-3 eggs but recently they've been laying about 7.

5. The government has created a chip they can put in your brain to command you to do stuff. They have tested it out with rats and it works perfectly. i heard on the news that sometime in upcoming years the will start putting chips into a baby's brain.(i think i heard it on the news.)

thats all for now."
- punkrocker71, PayableOnDeath BBS


"According to my belief this world is secular. Also 2000 years ago it was said that the world would persecute us Christians.
Which is what you are doing here today.
So God said this, thus it is true because you are persecuting us."
- embodiment777, PayableOnDeath BBS


"I'm the one who's willing to change my view. Creationists see the facts as they are. We don't dogmatically think every organism descend from the same ancestor. We do research about it. You just assume all organisms have a common descent. You adapt your view of the age of the earth so that evolution might be possible. I and many creationists adapt the age of the earth by researches."
- ZAURUZ, EvCForum


"I personally think there are no women presidents and hold little political power becuase most have moodswings,periods,etc."
- Exodus, BlizzForums


"And, if the scriptures are false, then who wrote them?

"there is more evidence in the Bible being true then there is of George Washington living"

Don't belive me?

Tough. It's a proven fact. "
- discombobulated, PayableOnDeath BBS


"And just to refresh everyones memory, I don't care if this pisses you off, Christianity is not religion.
So lets drop what the dictionary says cause 2000 years ago there was no Webster or any other type. look at it this way.

Religion: Humans attempt to reach to GOD.
JESUS: GOD reaching to humankind."
- embodiment777, PayableOnDeath BBS


[Arguing against Christianity being called a religion because it's "God reaching out to man, not man reaching out to God", despite the dictionary definition of 'religion'] "Besides if you would have read my post completely instead of looking for a petty argument you would have read that 2000 years ago there were no dictionaries. So what makes you think that a book that contains all meanings and explainations of the english language is correct? Expecially since it was written like no more than 200 years ago!"
- embodiment777, PayableOnDeath BBS


"Bah! Humanism is a crock anyway! Humanists are just people wanting to feel special by distancing themselves from traditional religions and subdividing and subcatergoring what they are. Its like those try-hard musicians who make really crap music, yet seek to be cool by labelling themselves outside of a typical genre... "We are progressive heavy grindcore power gothic industrial punk!" In a word: Pathetic. "
- DietFist, Infoceptor Forums


"Friends, Atheists, Countrymen: Lend me your ears.
Well, Dr Pangloss, I don't blame your church members for scowling as you come by. Anyone who treats fairy tells and the Koran like the Bible deserves ATLEAST a scowl. I'm 15, so I admit, I don't really know that much. But I do know that the Bible is true, and that every word of it was inspired by God. Every. Single. Word. THe Bible also says that the ONLY way to Heaven is through Jesus Christ. That means there is only one. Jesus Himself talked about Hell. How can you believe anything the Bible says and not believe that. The Bible said that anyone who preaches anything other than what it says is a false prophet. It definitely sounds like you are preaching something different. You said that you read the Koran and the Nag Hammadi texts. Well, the Bible says that Jesus is the only son of God. But the Koran says that Jesus was just a prophet. Obviously one of them is wrong. About the other things you spoke of, I don't even know what the nag hammadi texts are, so I can't say anything about them. In closing, I would like to say that it doesn't matter what you read, or what you believe, or if you think ther'e a Hell or not. There is a Hell, There is a God, and He sent His only son to die for us. If you don't accept that, will rot in Hell. This may seem close minded to some, but it's the truth, whether you want to believe it or not."
- ghostdude, Infoceptor Forums


[on the ambiguous, poetic nature of Biblical prophecies] "It doesn't have to be literal, it just has to be true. Prophecies sometimes aren't literal, but they're still true."
- blkmage, Infoceptor Forums


[On the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals Pledge of Allegiance ruling] "Ok, look, what's going to happen now as a result of this superior court's decision? Eh? Our courts are now going to be flooded with an influx of new lawsuits by wannabe-atheists, or real atheists who just want to get some money. These guys just want attention. What's next? Banning Catholic private schools? "
- admiralwu, Infoceptor Forums


"Harry Potter is demonic.
Stay away from it."
- Susan, ChristianForums




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