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Fundies Say the Darndest Things! February
2004 Edition
"I'm not even going to pay attention to talk origins. They're so wrong, it's just wrong." "As I have said before, I read all I could on Evolution when I was younger (don't want to brag, but I feel that I actually know more about evolution than most atheists do), and compared it to the message in the Bible, well, for me, the Bible makes more sense. Really, if you looked at the cell, the most basic fundemental part of the body, and you say that it was created by chance, well, you are a moron." "I never did understand the whole falsifiable thing. Why take stock in an idea that might be wrong?" "Actually, I would like to tie this in with the abortion debate- we live in a society that is predominatly, or becoming predominatly, atheist. Because of the
'seperation of Church and State', atheists view that this means that religion should be totally abolished. If the majority of atheists act the way you @ssholes do, well, mainstream religion is doomed." "That's okay, RufusAtticus - if I'm wrong in Jesus Christ then I wish to remain that way. You do remember Pascal's Wager, I presume? Tell you what, a hundred years from now - when it will surely be over for the two of us - let's compare notes on this ... is it a 'date'?" "The observed fact that 'kinds' do not cross over boundaries. Science supports this - try crossing a cow with an iguana." "I may pray for God to bless America but I already know that He will not because of the baby slaughter and the Sodomites" "The truth of the matter is all the big scientist will admit that they know evolution is wrong, but will say we have to teach something." "I think it that gay people and lesbiens should never be able to marry in fact i think they should be punished or exorcised or something! I have been frowned upon by all my friends and classmates for my extremely anti-homo attitude (not in a bad way they just don't understand my way of thinking)." "Also, I can tell you, in contradiction to VSB, that ghosts, in the sense of supernatural beings, do exist. One of the reasons that Wicca and Satanism are so popular these days is because they are real." [To a newly deconverted poster] "I still think that you are making this way to complicated Sparklecat and as long as you play these little logic games Satan has you right where he wants you. You seem very intellegent but you are not looking at the end game here. Every body dies (unless the rapture occurs) but every soul will exist for eternity. The question is where? Anything else is just Philosophy which, my friend, will do you no good in the end because wisdom too will pass away." "I would rather be looked at as stupid or illogical and know that If 'If' were true, I would be alright, rather than to be looked at as 'logical'and intelligent and face a possible eternity in hell. As the illogical flames of an illogical hell burn me for eternity and seperate me from an illogical God whose illogical son died for me and rose again, will I find comfort in the fact that it isn't logical?" "Of course I look at my own, and I know it's not false, no other religion acknowledges openly that God is Jehovah. No other religion follows exactly what the bible says." "Jesus is ruling in heaven now and so because he is, he is helping us to understand the bible... have you looked at our site? ever notice just how many languages you can view it in? we've translated it so much, how do you think man could've done this without God's blessing?" "only followers of Jesus in the first century before our day were Christians who actually obeyed Jesus' commands, and since he was the Christ, they weren't real christians, just as today most 'christians' aren't real christians, for a christian is a follower of Christ." "it's quite obvious that your atheistic viewpoint is depriving you of the mindset to actually pay attention to what i, a religious person am saying. why not instead of calling me a religious person, call me a so called 'reality person'? because i speak from knowledge of what is real." "and about you complaining about me calling religions false, don't you agree they're false? you're the one who hates religion." "you argue that my lack of paragraphs hurts your eyes, this is a forum, i'm trying to learn japanese and they don't use spaces? would you rather i don't use spaces? i'm just doing what's natural to me, if it hurts your eyes try putting on some glasses or changing your forum look, it's not my problem, it's yours. from my perspective, this is a place for words, not pictures. try putting yourself in people's shoes instead of thinking only about yourself all the time. typical selfish athiestic attitude." "The evil Islamic religion is huge no doubt... The horrible atrocities commited by order of it only prove Bible can not be held in the same light. If you agree that any unbiblical atrocities commited in the name of Christianity are wrong then surely any sane thinking person can see the Islamic Koran is a force fed hate filled religion straight from the father of all lies." "I agree to disagree here [that atrocities committed by members of a religion don't indict it]. The Islamic religion is evil... Thankfully, not all Muslims understand their evil religion or would rather allegorize their own scriptures. That does not change the evil premise of the founder Mohammed, theevil Quran and the adherents to the commands of the religion itself. Anyone who has studied Islamic history must surely notice how frequently the Muslims were involved in battle after battle." "More like the Koran has succeded by conquest. The God of the bible does not, not now anyway." "CF poll disproves evolutionists claims... I find it odd how evolutionists claim that most people in the world accept evolution, while there are 17 pages of people who claim to be YECs at this site, 5 pages of theistic evolutionists, and 4 pages of atheistic evolutionists. Perhaps they need to check their poll results once again." "I'm very familiar with Paul Hill [who shot an abortion doctor and encourages others to do the same]. I've read that article before you posted it. You defined murder as 'unlawful killing'. Paul Hill was a Christian. So the Laws that he operated under were God's Laws... According to Biblical Law, the killing of a murderer is NOT unlawful killing. That would mean, therefore, that Paul Hill was acting justifiable on his beliefs in defending a third person. (The unborn.) So....if he didn't unlawfully kill anyone....why was there need for repentance? Or remorse?" "That's a funny thought because people's lives are whisked, every minute; ever consider the possibility that God is striking some of them dead on the spot?" *** Alternate Bizarro Universe Award *** "Whenever I hear about the Nobel Peace Price, I remember that Arafat won the Peace Price... In a perfect world tho, [George W.] Bush would be be the only real choice to win this award. Maybe in the next world, Mr Bush's ideals will be appreciated." "Another of their so tolerant golden rules they have decided is so wonderful is that it is just fine to be gay or Lesbian or pro-homosexual and pro promiscuious . . . How is that so golden when it is an abomination to the Lord and leads to all kinds of STD's and brokeness in this life? Every poster online I know of who is a follower of this so called 'golden rule' is either a wiccan or a self-appointed god in some form of a cult or ism or another." "i hope so [that the UN moves to Iraq]! get out of this country .... anywhere but here...now we need to work on cutting their funding...." "As for the U.N. moving to Babylon [Iraq]...this could be a real possibility if the rapture leaves the U.S. in a shambles." "Here are some interesting facts about it [Babylon, modern-day Iraq]: "wondering..... have the two towers been replaced yet in N.Y.? Maybe the World Trade Center will be moved to Babylon in Iraq as well" "What about all the POSITIVE reports we've heard about how quickly Iraq is shaping up with schools, infrastructure, roads, etc.? Something is in Iraq alright, the wicked lead angel of sin himself and at least 4 of his most powerful buddies (still bound though in the river)." *** Post of the Week, February 1-7 *** "I said Babylon [in Revelations] is babylon [Iraq]... i said we are going to take babylon in the war so babylon can be restored... It will burn and people will see it... it has oil under it when a bomb hits that sucker in the future it will BURN ABD BURN people will see for miles! I LOVE THIS!...... RIGHT IN FRONT OF US!...... GOD IS SO GOOD!" "The UNs 'religion' is humanism. I think if America loses her sovereignty to the UN (which I could see happening if
[democratic contender Howard] Dean wins the presidency), and the UN gains more credibility than sovereign nations (look at what's going on with European countries and the monster EU), then the UN will have the power to declare ALL religions persona non grata in public. I think (at the start anyway), that you would be able to worship in your own home but ANY symbol, evangelization, whatever, in public would be ruled hate speech and you would be subject to a fine and/or prison time. This would take place in the name of 'world peace'." "Hmmm, don't know about you, but I have not seen anyone force anything but love, charity and kindness onto children in christian circles, as adversed to godlessness, fornication and promotion of self in atheism." "Be that as it may, since the sixties, your atheist program has started to be in place, so, how good ya doin so far? Is there enough confusion and immorality wrought by your way of thinking yet?" *** Compassionate Conservative of the Month *** [On a deadly Hajj stampede] "What will Muslims do if they cannot freely exercise their 'holy' right to murder non-muslims? Sounds like the Shiek [who condemned terrorism at the pilgrimage] must have attended the Clinton school of 'hide what you stand for'. I'm sorry that only 244 were trampled...it is a rare thing to see dead Muslims on the news these days, mostly it is the non-Muslims who end up dead." "You're right. Never a good thing to rejoice in the fall of one's enemy. Islam is the enemy, but the Muslim people themselves are not. Still unusual to see dead Muslims on TV, mostly there are only dead non-Muslims, killed for not converting to Islam... the issue is Islam verses non-Islam. These godless mongols will stop at nothing to destroy you and everything you hold dear if it advances their purpose. Everyone that loves Islam HATES everything that Christ stands for." "Would it be more 'christian' of me to celebrate their bloodbath over the infidels...? Are you aware of the facts, or just the gushy, emotional, liberal content of treasonous psuedo-thought being spoon fed the masses through popular media? The only people rejoicing in suffering here are the blood-crazed Muslim fanatics blowing up busloads of schoolkids and crashing passenger airliners into building filled with people to make a 'religious assertion'." "[Science has] Lots [to offer], actually. It lets you be wise. It lets you be the one who can know it all. It frees you from authority and lets you make the rules. It lets you do all those things your desires and whims wish and only have a hangover to have to answer to. Unfortunately, that doesn't make it the truth and you'll still have to answer to the real authority in the end." "Dan, atheists are to caught up in their sin to contemplate a God. They know the teachings of Jesus Christ are true and if everyone followed Jesus' examples, we would have world peace. However, that would mean they would have to give up their pre-marital sex and extra-marital affairs(sexual immorality), drugs and alcohol, lying, cheating, stealing, hating, deceiving. Most atheist think we are all a bunch of idiots." "These people (ACLU, gay and lesbian groups) will continue to seek and destroy anything that is moral... Why don't they start their own kind of scouting group [instead of calling for the Boy Scouts to stop refusing gays and atheists]? I'm sick and tired of these people pushing for change when it isn't needed. Satan is attacking anything and everything that has any good left to it. And, this is clearly a case of calling evil good!!" "This makes me so angry. They should just start their own group - what is the big deal? It is also these kinds of attacks against the Boy Scouts of all things, that make people - oooh dare I say it - hate the gay community." "The real issue is that the gay/lesbian community as well as the islamic community have convinced 'the powers that be' that their ideals, beliefs, and rights should be conveyed to all public school students in some manner. If the Boy Scouts is allowed to continue teaching that God is important and that gay and lesbianism is wrong, than that would undermine the brainwashing occuring in the public school!" "How do you know [not all gay people want to attack the Boy Scouts]? Maybe some, or alot of non-militant gays need to stand up and say that they think the boy scouts should be left alone. I don't see any gays doing this , so I must assume that gay or homosexual men think that they should be allowed to join the boy scouts and play with the boys... Micheal Jackson should be the headmaster." [Replying to 'homosexuality and pedaphilla are not related. that is what my MD said when I asked her.'] "Listen to what you just said. Your MD is a women. How does she know. Again, I see no gay men groups saying that they aren't interested in boys, I hear silence!" "It's common sense. The frog in the pot. If tomorrow our Congress passed a law blessing pedofilia there would be a national outcry... In a few years we're being told it's normal for some people to be attracted to children. Some scientist comes out and says there is a gene that makes people pedofiles. Study after study is whipped out there to convince us. Dateline and 20/20 have specials on the topic of how some people are just attracted to children. Showing 'relationships that have been going on for years' in a positive light. How sad that these people 'fear' going public. Hollywood and various celebrities scolding us for our intolerance and narrow-mindedness. Then you have comedy shows and movies-of-the-week come out. Next thing you know a law is being passed to 'bless' marriage between adults and children. And finally you have a preacher come out and say he's been secretly married to an 8 year old for 2 years. Then the church will be performing marriages between adults and children... All of this sounds ourtrageous? If it slaps us in the face today- morally we violently reject the idea. But little by little, in drips and drabs over time we become conditioned to accept sins. Disturbing but people better wake up." [On a tabloid news story involving a lesbian selling her virginity in an
online auction to fund college] "Trying to find a silver lining... Maybe being with a man will make her decide to no longer be a lesbian. I know it's a stretch, but that would at least be a positive decision among so many poor decisions!" "She is a whore. I wonder if she will put that on her Resume' when she graduates. I know , I'll pray for her. Maybe she can be a good Lesbian college graduate whore. There has got to be a job for that!" "Are we appeasing the atheists?... First they take the Bible out of public schools, then they take prayer out, then they replace them with evolution. I think that removing God from our public schools and replacing it with an atheist friendly theory is the first step to an atheist takeover of our society." "Atheists are doing everything they can to remove Christianity from our schools and replace it with non-Christian ideas. Eventually no one will believe there is a God because they were taught so at a young age." "Why should I expect atheists to see the problem in forcing people to read the Koran? If it isn't Christianity that's being taught and preached, they can't get enough of it! Evolution is just like the Koran- an anti-Christian ideology being taught. Atheists love it." "The only reason that you want evolution taught in our schools is because it will become much easier to turn people into atheists if they believe in evolution. You know evolution is most friendly to atheism, and that's why you want it taught to children at a young age." "CrazyFingers, my problem is that children are being taught an atheist friendly theory, and it is much easier to turn a person into an atheist if he or she believes in this theory." "Yoyu are mistaken as gravity is a real force scientifically proveable wheras Eviloution has no basis in science as it is but an unproven & unprovable theory! U might as well try to prove & find the planet Kolob where the Mormon God(s) reside." "Nonsense Eviloution is not proven in any way it is simply a religous dogma with no scientific credobiliy\ty whatsoever! U say it is proven well where on earth is this proof; show me any critter which has changed into another critter; show me even a single transittional fossil please. That famous Eviloutionist who died few months ago name escapes me said there are no transitional fossils!" "Under God [in the Pledge of Allegiance] did mean the Christian God as He is the only God they saw as being the true God unlike all the pagan religions of the indians & the world. For heavens sake they passed laws &* provided monies to evangelize the indians to the Gospel of Jesus Christ & U dare say they were not Christian,............ U are being very disengenuous my friend!!" "U are wrong there were no actual diests as we know them today they all embraced if not the gospel then a s Jefferson did the principals of society contained in the Bible as the basis for our & a civil society. You would have to deliberately ignore their repeated statements tio theis historical fact inorder to deny it. Even Newsweek in 1987 believe did a cover story on the relevance of the Bible to the founding of the nation & dared to say it was moreso the foundation than anything else of our nation!" "Yes I understand the Masonry & the oaths which are diametrically opposed to Christianity, from the 'worshipfull master' title on down; & U can not be a Christian & a Mason but you can be a christian & a Mason if U know what a I mean. I have seen & read paerts of Morals & dogma
[a famous Masonic work] & it is satans perspective. I do know the symbolism of Masonry the Moslem crescent & the fez etc. & it is Sataninc." "I is glad that atheist is on the other side of the world he sounds virulent," "Secular Humanisum is a religion & a Judge declared it so yes his descision wass later overtutrned but he stated it so. Evilotion is the foundation of secularhumanisum religion." "The Pope is but a fallen man appointed by fallen men to represent a fallen & flawed religion; he obviously if he accepts Eviloution, has rejected the Bible which is Gods word for the wisdom of man which is folly!" "Eviloution is a tool of Satan thus the pope is a tool of Satan; besides that he is part of the ecuminical movement which is contrary to the cause of Christ." "God wanted that man to be a killer becaus ehe has a purpose to everything. i know this sounds insane, but God has insane ways of working. maybe he wanted that guy to be a killer and have him eliminate someone else who had commited a great sin, or someone whos time had come." *** Anatomy 101 Honor Roll *** "There was no Lillith [Adam's first wife according to medieval folklore]. It is said that Eve was taken from Adam's hip. Man has ONE less hip than a woman. So, there could have only been ONE wife of Adam." "But from what the bible says is Eve was created from Adam's rib.It is a fact,Men do have one less rib the women do." "My question is why, back even 20 years ago, gay marraige or even homosexuality wasn't even heard of? Why is it all of a sudden an 'new' thing? Because you choose to be gay." "there is supstachale evidence that there is a greater being maybe not him but the things he has done so nessisaraly he does exsist" "Just like the lady who took prayer out of schools, some group of people with 255,000 signatures is scheduled to meet with the FCC to get not music, but the reading of the gosple of all airways. This is a proven fact." "Phsychics are evil. What isn't faked is messages from Demons" "Some people do genuinely get healed, but it is through demonic powers, not from God. The devil can work miracles and appear as the angel of light." "If God is our creator shouldn't he have ultimate authority over how long someone is in Hell? You or I may not like it but that doesn't matter... I personally think that if God said to me that he changed his mind and all Christians are going to Hell as well as non-believers I think he is just to do so. Am I an evil man for thinking that?" [Replying to 'How many Iraqi civilians have we killed?'] "Not enough... I can guarantee that if they do not repent and receive Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior before the second coming (coming soon to a world near you ;-)) we will be killing them all when we return. Islam is an enemy of God. All who follow the false religion of Islam (most Iraqis) are enemies of God. Twice before we have had to beat back the hordes of radical Muslim fundamentalists and if we don't do it again this time we will all be Muslim or dead in just a few short years." "I have one answer to depression (and I had suffered this myself) - REPENT! Get with God and ask Him to reveal those hidden (or maybe not hidden) sins. If you get right with Him - the Holy Spirit *will* (BIBLICAL PROMISE) give you JOY AND PEACE AND HAPPINESS. And for Goodness sakes - GET OFF THE DRUGS AND AWAY FROM THE DR.S - Live by Faith - for 'by His Stripes you WERE healed'." *** Bible Origins 101 Honor Roll *** "The platform of the Democratic party clearly is in a high degree of opposition to God's moral Law (summarized by the Ten Commandments). Furthermore, the entire Bible was written by Christ, in which it is clear what the role of the state is and isn't. No wonder public housing, welfare, and public schools are an abysmal failure." "Yea the people that don't believe in God believe in evolution, or spontanious.... forget the other word. Evolution has been covered many of times on this site. " "That is the essence of evolution - despite all scientific evidence, they cannot come to terms with the Lord. One physicist (his name escapes me at the moment) stated that based on mathematics, evolution cannot be true, but he still believes it because he does not know what else to believe in! Translation: I don't want to believe in God because that would mean changing my morals, so I am going to continue to believe in something that is false. It's really sad. And to think, I used to be one of them!" "Then you got the point, There is a difference as you see between us a and Buddhism, so since there is defenitly God then the Buddhism is wrong 100%" "Fine, I agree! But all I'm asking for is for you to recreate the very thing you support. Science says some fish eventually evolved into some frog. From there it eventually evolved into a land creature and into a lizard... This is secular science's view, not mine. And yet you say that for me to ask that you actually evolve something like this to show things do so evolve is 'preposterous'???" "How could any thinking person take seriously a 'religion' that was started by a science fiction author, and a bad one at that?" "a week ago I went to the mountains of Colorado with some friends, one of whom preaches. He's a creationist big into 'trying to' refute evolutionists... I said to him, 'you know why you creationists hardly ever look good in an argument with an evolutionist?' 'No, why?' he asked. I said, 'because evolution’s premise is the repudiation of the existence of G-D. Therefore it's excelling is very important to satan, therefore evolutionists, particularly the fervent ones, are closely watched over and protected by satan. he gives them the belief system and arguments to discredit wishy-washy counter arguments, probably assigns a personal imp to plant thoughts and words in times of debate. Creationists end up arging of their own limited resources against timeless spiritual entities with unlimited resources for lies and arguments.' I asked him, 'you ever heard of a creationist binding the evolutionist's demon before engaging the evolutionist?' (he’s of that anti-spirit denomination, went right over his head). 'No, actually, I never have', he said. I told him, 'that’s the trouble, none do, in fact it doesn't even occur to them, I've never heard of one doing it.' I told him to try it the next time he's confronted,.. and, at the same time, ask the HS to give you the thoughts and words you need. 'You'll find out that even the best of evolutionists become disarmed when his protective demon is gagged and a particularly poignant point is raised in the discussion (as planted by the HS).'" "i wouldnt exactly say demons help you...more like blind you and feed your already presiposed rebelious sin nature and angstyness towards God with many sugared thoughts of hatred and lies to which you easyily buy into them because yourself and demons are both on the same side both in the same kingdom of darkness. see the thing is i dont fight with you...i fight with the demons who would keep your eyes blind and your ears deaf to the Truth of God and His Word... its not about me against you...its about you against God and me against your masters throught he power of Christ... i am very open minded, however only to God =D" "No Child Left Behind: Will all Children be in the Rapture?.. I have been thinking about the No Child Left Behind education legislation that was passed a year or so ago. Perhaps the language forshadows what will soon happen to the children of the earth." "... it could be JUST the children of believers because it was JUST the children of Lot who were saved from Sodom, and JUST the children of Noah who were saved from the Great Flood. The rest of the children (of the unsaved parents) were NOT spared. Although I am completely confident that in His great love, God took those children straight to Heaven at their deaths!" "Well... if He did send them [Egyptian babies killed in the 10th Plague] to hell then it is His prerogative. 'Jacob have I loved, and Esau have I hated'..." "I believe Bush is acting in accordance to God's will to bring Jesus back. Do you think his re-election is a sure thing? I sure hope so!" "Whatever his beliefs are makes no difference,i believe God has him in power Good or bad for a reason,God i believe is using Bush to advance his end time prophecies,i mean Gore wouldn't have went to war with Iraq to change God's times and seasons,there's only one man that can get us into a war,prophesied in Revelation 9:13 that will kill a third of humankind 2 billion people,and it looks like China will be involved.So i would say yes he will win God will see to it,just as he did in 2000........." "If Bush stays as president, he just might mismanage the economy to the point of its collapse. Weak economy will eventually result to a weak military. If Bush loses 2004? Maybe the man to replace him wont be as supportive to Israel, afterall, that's a quick fix to terrorism: dont support Israel and dont anger the arabs. Either way, weak mililtary or unsupportive of Israel, that would embolded Russia to attack Israel, right?" "Well..... if things are this bad with a Christian President, just think how bad it will be putting somebody like [Democratic candidate John] Kerry in there who doesn't believe in God. That to me is just like thumbing his nose at Almighty God. I think God is going to lift his hand of protection on us if we get a non-christian in office." [After a court rules for gay marriage] "These judges are so anti moral it is pathetic and I appreciate God opening the eyes of the decent American people to show us exactly what is sitting behind those benches. I really think these judges want to 'come out of the closet' and admit their homosexuality, and this is the only way they can do it." "I think that the MASS judges need to rule on Baptism, and The LORD's Supper, or Communion. After all, Marriage is a sacrament like these other two. Legal unions OK, I don't like that but that's fair. Marriage is a sacrament established by GOD. I don't think that there is a court in the entire world that has the right or legal jusisdiction to rule on Marriage. Ah yes, the great WHITE THRONE JUDGEMENT! They will find out then!" "Gays have an agenda,under the world Government system the UN,their agenda is to get rid of anyone who preaches against what the bible says,soon it will become a hate crime for pastors or any one else to say what God calls an abomination or anything the bible says.Pastors won't be able to get on t.v or radio anymore,boards like these will be shut down in America,your right redmow,your right on.The next few years just watch........." "Sitting here tonight while picking my jaw off the floor at what i heard and saw on legalizing Gay marriages,i started wondering since God knew what was comming here in America of this Sodomite like Nation,could ( i said could)He use the China war with Taiwan,and and Russia joining in to destroy America????Look why would Russia begin War manuvers at the same time as we were voting on gay marriage?.. Now America is legalizing homosexuality the very sin that brought God's judgment down on Sodom.These two issues might be closer related than we might think,one things for sure is if we legalize this on May 17,God's word says he will destroy America:and that's a fact; question is will he use Russia,China or any other Nation to bring his punishment???The clock is ticking.........." [Replying to 'where in the Bible does it say america will be destroyed if massachussets legalizes gay marriages?'] "If you really want the answer, order this
series [of audiotapes]... he makes a rock-solid biblical case that the Lord has a history of judging sinful nations, and that it is usually rampant, in-your-face homosexuality that pushes the Lord over the edge. You may not want to admit this because the thought is uncomfortable to you, but that doesn't mean it's not true." "Surge, God's word is clear no Nation or culture will survive if it embraces homosexuality,none Sodom was destroyed,the Roman Empire crumbled for doing the same,intreresting to note No Nation has ever legalized it,none even Sodom didn't make it mandate to make it where two males married..." "Bush gives 16 billion to Africa [to fight AIDS]: Was it really Necessary?.. Between 1980 and 2000, AFrica gained 274 million people, the population of the United States. My god, why are we sending these people 16 billion dollars to help them breed faster? It's sheer insanity. They need to stop having sex, seriously." "It's no secret that homosexuals have a heavy influence in the media, which promotes it, nearly, in some cases, to an anti heterosexual POV... They have every right to be fully-functioning members of society everyone else does today. This is why the pursuit of special 'rights' that overstep everyone else's leads to homocentric facism (or oligarchy, really)... If America caved to the homosexual agenda in every way its pursued at this moment, we'd all be living under a 'gay' Taliban." "Homosexuality is, fundamentally, anti christian, so it makes no sense why the Judeo-Christian notion of marriage (standards of which are the basis for tradition in this nation) should even matter to you, in all honesty. If you don't care about living by God's laws, I see no reason for you to seek what's commonly recognized as a union in His eyes. Homosexual 'marriage' also emperils future generations of Americans by setting the precedent for anyone who deems their sexual practices a 'lifestyle'. If the homosexual agenda lowers the age of consent, for example, the door is then wide open for pedophiles to to claim they're being deprived of their 'right' to marry toddlers." "Democrats practically celebrate abortion. Rich abortion lobbyists keep them on short leashes, too. Their rule will not mean fewer murders (save perhaps for a time, if they lie and then feign keeping promises for a while). It's not only abortion that Christians are being urged to vote Republican for - it's (in theory) the protection of society from the homosexual 'rights' agenda, et cetera." "... the reason gays want to get married is so they can have equal rights such as insurance. With insurance provided for gay couples, and gays will have a lorger number of STD's and AID's. With this fact our insurance rates with go up, all for a thing that should is wrong, such as gay marriages." "Evolution is a big mafia in worldwide. Am I right?? It is not a science, but mafia, ruling by Devil. I think that there is big mafia in the world which protects evolution. Dont you see this??" "There you go again, putting logic before scripture" "... scientists see that the Universe appears to be designed, but rather than face the possibility of 'supernatural intervention' as one reasonable explanation, they will spend time and energy thinking up other possibilities specifically so that they can deny the supernatural model. Occam's razor needs to be applied perhaps." "Martinm, I can't do anything if you opt not to believe in creation as proof of a creator... I can deny your existance as well, but it doesn't change reality. I can step in front of an on coming truck on the freeway and deny it exist too, but my objection for the truck to retract itself doesn't change anything. It's also logic, that 10 out of 10 people die. I can deny that logic right up until the truck I denied hits me." "It's sad your playing a game, when the answer is as plain as the nose on your face, which I happen to believe exist, even without seeing you. (unless your Michael Jackson, but thats another thread) In reailty, the truck is coming, despite the repeated demand to retract it." *** Clinton Fan of the Month *** "by allowing gay marriages in massachusets, you have showed that the people who passed this law are a bunch of pig headed people who will pass stupid, discusting laws that will only make the homosexuals happy. Its sick. I dont even know why they call them 'homosexuals', they cant even have sex. I think that letting them be married in our churches is the sickest thing... if you dont agree with me, kiss my ass....." "They quote scripture at you (as is also pretty typical) like, 'Judge not lest you be judged' etc..... And then turn right around and say the bible is just a messed up book. Thats the one common denominator among 'religious' unbelievers. They are hypocritical and logically inconsistant. And really, that is your best weapon in witnessing to them." "I think that gays and lesbians should not be allowed to get married. I do not believe that people can be gay or lesbian, it doesn't make sense. It takes a man and a woman to have a baby. It just doesn't work right any other way. I think gays and lesbians might just have a chemical embalance in their brains. Or they might just do it for attention, who knows." "If the[se] penguins are gay.................then ........wouldnt it stand to reason that since we have EVOLVED........ then could we not say that gay's must have descended from penguins? (I don't believe in evolution........just wise-cracking)" "Mel Gibson's 'Passion:' Is It God's Final End-Times Warning/Opportunity?.. Is God using this as His final warning to the nations, and the final opportunity to accept Him? Is this the fulfillment of Jesus' statement in Matthew 24: 'The Gospel will be preached to all nations, and THEN the end will come?'" "You know, for MONTHS now I have been feeling as though 'time were running out' as well. Just think about all the ways in wich God is trying to get our attention in the mainstream media... The Left Behind Series... The Christ Clone Trilogy... An earlier poster mentioned ALL the biblical shows on channels like TLC / A & E / The History Channel... 'The Passion Of The Christ' Heck, there's even a video game that is set to be released in March called 'The Four Horsemen Of The Apocalypse' for major game systems!" "Does the traditional catholicism of Mel Gibson suddenly abandon the works based idolatry that it has believed for so long and suddenly portray the true Gospel of Jesus Christ on the screen. The Pope approved it so I THINK NOT!" "I hope I'm wrong, but I'm afraid this movie may glorify 'Mary'... There are many Catholics who do not know the Truth and their erroneous ideas about Mary may be REINFORCED by this movie, thereby making them even harder to reach. This wouldn't be the first time that Christ's name is used to lead people astray." "Poor Mel Gibson. It must be awful for him to think that his [non-Catholic] wife is going to Hell. He seems like a tormented soul. Perhaps making the [Passion of Jesus] movie will help him by leading him to the truth." "Israel 'must' give land [for peace]?!?!? Poor guy [Kofi Annan] doesn't know he's messin' with GOD'S property. I pity the fool." "I think he'll have more than that [his job] to worry about if he forces them to give away God's land." "Unfortunately I think that Israel MAY give up some land for 'peace'. Get ready for the earthquakes." "I love the big bang theory. It states that there was a big explosion from nothing. Wow! I'm impressed. All it lacks is..well, everything. Preexisting elements must have been in place for it to take effect. (thats known science)" "So why is the universe then. Big bang doesn't cut it either. If you quote thermodynamics you still have to explain where the tiny little particle that exploded into the universe came to be. Please tell me, if not God then what?" *** Non-Contradiction Award *** "There are simply too many signs in history and archeology that an earlier, advanced civilization existed. One that was utterly destroyed in a global catastrophe, and that would have erased 99.9% of all evidence from ever being found." "The bible tells us in Ecclesiasties (sp).. there is nothing new under the sun..no not one.. I take that literally... if it wasn't the flood..I can't think of any other explantion..and tell me..just how did the egytians come up w/a symbol of an Apachie
Helecopter? [They
didn't]..(I think
that's an apachie Helecopter..if not..it's still a military helecopter..and how the Egyptians knew about them needs to be found out!!!!....I love Archeology!!!.. ..let those die hard atheists try to explain this away..."
"There's no such thing as someone who believes that God does not exist.
That means that the very concept of 'atheism' is spurious." "It just goes to show you that ALL sin has consequences. Just as we're still dealing with Adam's sin and Abraham's sin, so too are we dealing with Darwin's sin." "Of course this is not credible science...think of all the dollars that go into the study of evolution on a regular [basis]. All the evolution, big bang, abiogenisis, 60 katrillion bazillion years, etc, etc, that's shoved into the brains of the modern day population that just believes what their TV god tells them, or better yet their whatever god tells them. Of course they don't want anything that refutes their indisputable evidence. It's easy to brain wash the masses one way, but it's a bit difficult to de-program them once their there..." "Of course the resurrection happened. How do I know? Because God said so." "Hey guys ... just found some really shocking facts about Islam that you all could use to maybe tell muslims... Allah converted in Arabic numerics equals 66. Coincidence or a sign that Allah was indeed a pagan moon god of the early arabs? The Quran also has 6666 verses. lol, need i even say more hahahaha. And ... The Quran has also 114 Parts. The guy that has written The Quran as a Rabbi, he was kidnapped, this is why i beleive he embedded pagan like numerics in the Quran to destroy Islam later and to show people looking for the truth that Islam is indeed of the Devil. Praise be to Jesus. Amen... The Quran is stamped out horrifically with this evil 666 number ... its almost hilarious ... Please use these facts to witness to hard stubborn muslims to show that what they beleive, is seriously Satanic." "The numerology aspect can get a bit confusing. Islam can be refuted on it's own merits (or lack thereof) if compared to scripture." "King James version is the most accurate version and best bible you can get on the planet today, if you have done your research about Satanism, Illuminati, NIV bibles and other phoney translations that are made solely to attack Gods word ... you will know why KJV is the most accurate... Guys this is God speaking to me today here, he confirms things to us in such wonderous ways, that sometimes ... Theres just no words to describe his wisdom and knowledge." "As for predictions [derived from the theory of creationism]...hmmm....Christ is coming again soon....that's one prediction I'm eagerly awaiting... As long as there are scientists operating with an agenda to disprove God thereby tainting there findings it won't happen. Many scientists in investigating evolution etc have come to Christ once they realized the foolishness of evolution...it's a statistical impossibility." *** Tim 'The Execution Man' Tailor's Award *** "One thing that I really love and enjoy about our good old KJV Bible is the fact that it has all of the answers for any and every situation. So, on the authority of the word of God (we don't have to worry if it's politically correct or not), we can say (as Preachit said) give him the gospel, and a good and permanent dose of execution (pick your favorite, it mattereth not). Personally, I like the electric chair. Beef it up to 100,000 volts at 5,000 ampere capability. That comes out to 500 million watts of raw, brute power. 'Why so much?', you ask. Because everything that I design and build is loaded with 'overbuild'." "[That gay marriage poll on a fundie website is for it] Probably because the queers specifically target that stuff and cast their vote. For a minority, they are awfully loud." "It is true that these secret sPells barbie dolls [the witch barbie] do have a demonic spirit attached to them. All occult stuff do. Some christians just don't want the truth. That's why they come on here and argue so much. Also, satan as his agents on here as well. Those are people that are heavily into the occult and satanism. Some of them pose as christians. The Holy Spirit even revealed that to my wife and I have learned a lot about what goes on in the occult in the last while... Those who invented secret sPells barbie, they know what they are doing. There is poeople leading the occult scheming to lure the youth into the occult." *** Crappy Resurrection Apologetic of the Month *** "The fact is, not one bone of Christ has ever been discovered. And this fact only helps to support the belief that Christ rose again from the dead, thus proving His divinity." "Stupid no, but Blinded yes, I always see those who don't accept Jesus as a temporary blind people, I myself am very happy that I am born in a christian family and I have known Jesus since I was a kid." "I don't need help from you because God is helping me always, I think If you don't need God's help you will be just like what you have written below your online/offline status,'A dead man'" "believe me there will be no smilies in Hell... " "Don't even try with me, I have tons of contradictions for the Quran, Belive me I know more about Islam and its contyraictions than some of the moslems themselves" "I don't need to get you verses from the Quran to convince you about Jesus that he is God because I have what is stronger than any religious book in this world which is the bible itself." "Sounds more like a fear of the truth from the Muslims than anything else. It's the same thing as someone making up a lie then having to make up other lies to prove the first lie is true. Pretty soon, none of it makes sense." "Yes. I will venture to say that it is a sin for a Christian to vote for anyone who doesn't recognize our Christian right to Christian marriage and Christian reproduction." "I know evloution is a lie because Jesus told me the truth. All you have to do is pray and Jesus will tell you the truth. You don't need a PhD for Jesus to tell you which is why christrains are smarter than athiest scientists." "by the way, do all you darwinists also believe in his hierarchy of humans, the white male being at the pinnacle, ranging down to the almost white italians, greeks etc., down through the asians etc. etc. til you get to the aborigines and the retarded take up the rear...just interested in your thoughts on that" *** Post of the Week, February 8-14 *** "I am an historian with a minor in Anthropology and I understand the truth of the Bible. First, God did not create dinosaurs man did. What we fell to realize, that these ancient people were geniuses, as the Bible stated in Gen. Chapter six... Now it is clear that God state that every imagination of evil man did. He did mess with DNA back then and started genetic breeding with reptiles and other animals. Jurassic Park was not completely false. Satan wants to create and he is using man hoping to make this attempt, but he cannot. What man did do was make dinosaurs, Cyclopes, mermaids, neantherdal and cavemen, centaurs, and other deform creatures... What God did during the flood is wipe out all of the animals and creatures that He did not create. Using the flood, and water which is a catalyst that speeds up the chemicals on the earth God quickly decompose all of the billions of people who died in the flood... Satan wants us to believe that dinosaurs lived millions of year, not so!" [Replying to "You don't understand evolution"] "i don't "The GOD of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is not like you. HE is
all-Powerful, all-Knowing, Omni-Present; a dis-embodied ultra dimensional being
that we call GOD. HE doesn't see the universe like you or I do. And to top it
all off HE has killed more people HIMSELF than all the wars put together. "I see Berlin in ashes and see absolute magnificence. I see the demise of a corrupt regieme and dead nazis. This makes me smile. Because I know they can not put human beings into ovens and burn them alive!!! So maybe you see the Monalisa as a thing of beauty, and that is fine... GOD is going to light billions of human beings on fire for all eternity. Is HE unstable??? " "Kal those same [gay] surgeons would have been stoned to death in the old testament. And if they do not become Born Again, will be lit on fire for all eternity. What kind of kick is that? I definatly do not want a homoSEXual coming near me with a needle or a scalpal." "The latest acceleration in our nation’s homosexual advance is but a small part of the overall attack on our country’s founding principles. The funny little gay guys prancing around our reality shows each night are but a distraction while the major assault moves forward. The goal of this offensive: complete separation of Church and State forever. If you adhere to the traditional Christian teachings, you have no place in any of the fifty states... If the Bible condemns an act as sinful, then our society must not adhere to the same standard. To do so would bring the Church and the State in line with each other. If God says something is wrong, the Law must say it is right. " "no, the generations have just not changed yet-when the people of my generation are in charge if we have that long! then you will see that james robison is right. Men have begun to utterly reject the bible so much that they will do the opposite out of spite..." *** 'Sinners in the Hands of a Sociopathic God' Award *** "Unrepentant heathens will be lit on fire for all eternity!!! They will have resurrected bodies that can never die. However, they will be on fire and burn in intense unimanginable pain and suffering!!! Screaming from the tops of their lungs for trillions and trillions of googles!!! Never, ever, not even for one (1) minute having rest from being on fire!!!... There are not long enough graphs to put the equation of eternal Suffering and pain on. Think of being in your garage and accidently having the gas can fall on you and spill all over you and your clothes. Then your nieghbor throws his cigarette over the fence and fffrrrooommmmm!!! You've just been lit on fire! You start screaming and yelling for help! Your eyes are burning with fire so you can't see, therefore you run into the outside wall of your house and fall down and just keep burning and screaming in pain!!! Well that would be a vacation to those who will burn in the lake of fire!!! What's my point? Even if the homoSEXuals, liars, ABORTIONists, and all haters of GOD, succede in their political whoredom, who do they really wind up burning in the end??????? " "lucifers' 1, 2, punch combo comes like this. 1. The U.N. and any form of humanism. This is the brains of the operation. The Jab if you will. 2. Hollywood/Media. This is the forceful tool used by the humanists to get across their message. This is the Over-hand Right!!! HOWEVER!!! God has a devastating counter Punch to this combo of the devil. It's called the LAKE OF FIRE!!!" "It's clear that music itself is NOT amoral--certain styles of music reflect different attitudes. A wordly, sensual style of music cannot be combined with 'Christian' words. That's the problem with a lot of CCM today--they take a beat and a music style used in sinful, ungodly music, and try to slap on some Christian words, and say it honors God. There is no Scriptural justification for Christian rock music!!!!! " "That's right! Rock music is of the devil! I will not apologize for saying it so bluntly, and I will not back off on my convictions on music. Maybe there have been some genuine conversions through 'Christian' rock music, but it still is not right to convey God's message through a sinful music style." "In response to some of the comments, I didn't say that all rock music lacks a melody, just that the beat is emphasized mush above the melody. And there have been studies showing that the beat used in most rock music can create wrong sexual feelings within the body." "Of course it hurts me. There is an incredible negative monetary impact on my because of the homosexual agenda, and it also attempts to deny me my Constitutional rights to free speech and freedom of religion." "Millions if not billions of tax dollars have been spent on medical treatment [for AIDS] that could have been used for better purposes. Also, my tax dollars are confiscated and turned over to homosexual activists against my will to brainwash young impressionable children in public schools." "Quarantine [of AIDS patients] does not equal banishment to a barren wasteland. Heck, I've been quarantined due to an allergic reaction because the doctors needed time to make a diagnosis. I survived unscathed and everyone's health was protected. No problemo." "The lie of separation of church and state is the invention of the atheist and the God haters (not necessarily the same thing, although, can be). Try reading what really was written, not what you think was." [After an airline pilot asked people "if they're Christian," then said "You're crazy" to the rest, prompting panicked calls to families] "I wonder what would happen if all christians were so bold! I found encouragement in this pilots courage and dedication to Christ. If I was a non-christian I would not want to ride his flight during rapture!" "Good for Him! That is what we need, boldness to just jump out there and tell people about Jesus Christ, and not feel so intimidated about it. After all, this is our wonderful Savior! What is the worse that can happen to us?" "I suggest emailing AA [American Airlines] and expressing support for this man. I did... I think a threatened boycott is in order, if they take action against him.
" "I love it! I realize that he probably broke some rules...but there are imperatives that take precedence over man-made rules and sharing the gospel is one of them..." "I don't see hypocrisy either [in the pilot promoting xianity]. No one seems to be considering the fact that souls are in jeopardy of eternal hell fire, torture and eternal separation from God. When the prospect of hell is brought into the picture, then all earthly ideas about fairness, political correctness, and professionalism should not mean a hill of beans. Let go of your earthly thoughts and
brainwashings. Open your eyes and see the truth! God should be preached everywhere and all the time." *** Double Double Standards Prize *** "As far as this muslim argument, that would be promoting a bogus religion and that would be wrong. The pilot was promoting the truth, the way and the light. BIG DIFFERENCE." "[Mark 13,] verse 9: You will be handed over to the local counsels and flogged in the synagogs. On account of me you will stand before govenors and kings as witnesses. Could what we are seeing be the persecutions mentioned here? There is another thread of an airplane pilot who is now handed over to a counsel. Just like this scenario is handing it over to a counsel. Are we seeing this prophecy fulfilled?? There can be no doubt." "Someone at work just told me two days ago, that she saw a show on showtime titled 'The Gift'. It was about gays trying to contract HIV. One guy bragged about having been 'done' by 50 guys in a row, an orgy if you will, so that he too might become HIV positive. Their reasoning for this is that in the gay community you are looked down upon by many if you are not HIV positive. Now watch your tax dollars at work paying for their meds. But more importantly, if they are willing to stoop this low and against themselves, what do you think they are willing to do oncerning the rest of society! The gay agenda and movement if far more dangerous than what most think. You will, I believe, see it get far worse than even what it is now. And I would ask anyone thinking of voting for someone to be president that supports the gays and their agenda... what in the world is wrong with you?" "And, if birds evolved from dinosaurs, how do you explain flying insect, flying mammals?" "Can you explain how plants evolved in the first place. Was there a simple mammal cell, a simple plant cell, a simple set of cells for all the other forms of life that started at some point in time?" "How many ways are there to develop wings and why did the dinosaurs develop wings, more food in the air like flying insects in other words why aren't we all flying if it was advantagous to the survival of the dinosaur or insects or bats why not for all of us?
" "Has anyone taken the entire volume of 'evidence' for evolution and compiled it? I think if they had and then threw out anything that has not been scientificaly 'proven' (the assumption stuff) they would probably end up with nothing." "Mageth, you seem to be natorius for having a hard time with [false] analogies. Up to this point I thought you were a relatively smart guy, I mean you think therefore you are, but if you truely do not know what I was trying to illustrate regardless of my word choices then you might want to go for another swim in the primordial pool and catch up with the rest of us on this evlutionary joy ride." "And I see too that the guy [Kent Hovind] is attacked and no proof for evolution, well, that is cause no one can prove it. Just a theory that can't even be shown to be sorta true. Moslty made up bunk by people who have no idea about science at all. Scientists are changing their minds all the time, looking to 'other avenues' (cause no one 'buys' into the fantasy idea of evolution )anything to refuse any truth in God creating the world. Cowards. Most scientists cannot reason themselves out of a paperbag." [Replying to 'are you planning to respond?'] "No, not really as I have done so many times. Its old by now. But is there anything in particular that you truely want an answer for? if its just another place where reguardless of the answer you're going to be right reguardless of the truth, then no, I'll stick with feeling sad for you." "All he [Hovind] was asking for [in his 'challenge'] is 1 (and just one) shread of proven evidence this science is correct. Of course it's impossible, because the theory is not correct." [Replying to 'Hovind is not a doctor'] "And were did Darwin receive his formal degreed training in science? Med school dropout, unpaid naturalists, degree in religion. Hmm had panic attacks... yep sounds like sort of a lune to me." "Based on science, there *is* a probablility of self creation from nothing? You should send this proof to that guy offering the 250,000 bucks. Send him a bottle of vacuum less void through the post office, and by the time it gets there it should have made something." "Just because you refuse to admit that God exists, doesn't mean He doesn't exist. What God says is true whether you want to believe it or not. God says [in the Bible] that all men know of His existence. Therefore, if someone says that he doesn't exist.....then yes.....they are lying." "Your not believing what God says, doesn't change the fact that what He says is true. It's better that you realize that now, rather than later. By the way, there's no such thing as 'atheism'. It doesn't exist. Your 'ism' is nothing but another empty shell in the shell game of deception." [When someone jokes that all 'atheist' definitions must be revised] "Why would you depend on an English dictionary to determine 'truth' for you? Is the 'dictionary' the bible of 'atheism'? Because its in the dictionary, that makes it real?" "Who said my 'being offended' by the blatant lies of the athiest is supposed to change anything? Only God can change hard hearts. You can tell me all you want about how you don't believe that God exists...........but that doesn't change the fact that I don't believe you." "Oh? Now you're saying that God lied when He said the Bible... is GIVEN by HIS INSPIRATION, and when He says that the Bible it IS NOT manmadeup. So, according to you and your atheist's club, not only is God arrogant and untruthful about His existence......He is lying about His authorship of His book. Whoa! Who are you.....the created 'creature' to falsely accuse the Hand that created you? Oh, that's right......you created yourself...you're your own god....that's who you are. Well, it's 'your word' against 'His Word', atheist. Guess who's right?" "[Would I believe a similar Quran verse?] Of course not. Allah is a FALSE God. The Bible tells us there is only ONE God. Someone can tell me that the label on the jar of peanut butter says that Skippy is god and I won't believe that either for the same reason." "And so the little atheists, like a good boy and girl.....believe the Liar and live happily ever after as their own little gods unto themselves......NOT!" "If you, the atheist, find yourself writhing in the eternal torment of the flames, you will have finally got what you wanted...............no God. Then you will no longer be able to accuse God of lying, will you? If you don't accept the truth He offers................He'll give you your own truth. He's very accomodating. Sometimes those who are the smartest are the most stupid." "Yes, that's right.........one can say over and over again that God doesn't exist. But no matter how hard one wishes and hopes that God does not exist.... that wish will never come true. It's completely unrealistic to wish that God doesn't exist. There's simply no evidence that God doesn't exist. Yet there's plenty of evidence that atheists don't exist......that's another thread, though... reminds me of one of my favorite childhood stories......The Emperor's New Clothes" "Same thing here with the atheists.....................I have nothing against these people, it's the shipload of lies they're serving up. I'm not faulting you for not being angry about it...........so please don't fault me because I am angry about it." "Athesit here have claimed that creation came into being because of a big bag, black hole, quantium whatevers, non-preexisting materials, aliens, and all types of what they admit are theories without a single shread of science or proof used to create them... At this point, I wonder if there is a shrink around that can explain how, during the course of evolution, the entire world got dropped on its head. This is exactly why the bible said you are without excuse." "Although not completely convinced, I think it entirely possible for Russia to detonate a small nuclear device, or several, inside the U.S. using Al Queda as a cover. The story of missing Soviet suitcase nukes has been around for a while now. It's a perfect alibi. Look at the state of Russia's military. I've heard it's in total disarray. Perhaps the Soviets realized a massive war with the U.S. was a futile, and much too expensive game to play...and decided to play a different one." "I find the idea you posted quite probable, Illusion. I don't trust the Russians one bit, and I've heard other rumours of a long-range plan to lull the US into thinking they're all sweetness and light now." "IMO, there will need to be a 'terrorist' attack using those 'missing' suitcase nukes. (The Soviets are actually behind it.) This will throw the U.S. into a tail spin. After a certain amount of time, and if necessary, more nukes...the U.S. will fall into chaos...the economy will tank...and then who knows what will happen..." [Replying to 'what do you think theory means in science?'] "Theory = guess, assumption. What do I win?" "Yes, the white alligator is a beautiful creature. I love the fact that mankind can peacefully coexist with dinosauri today, as in the past." "Please read all existing threads on this debate topic. We have so far refuted all of science's best explanations for creation outside of the literal interpretation of the bible." "They [Giordano Bruno, Michael Servetus] were not martyrs to science but outright stinking heretics, denying the Trinity. But don't bore us here -- there are threads on TWeb dealing with the Inquisition." "Embryology was proven to be a fraud more than 125 years ago. Henkle made that up." *** 'Death by Irony Overdose' Certificate *** "I will admit that pointing out how irrational and inconsistent the unbelievers are is irresistable... If all I ever do is keep the sheep from being fooled by all this 'rational' rhetoric, I'll die in peace." "I just don't get what the atheists/agnostics on this forum need in order to convince them. Perhaps a burning bush? I think it is fear that keeps them in the state of unbelief. Fear traps unbelievers. Fear of moving out of their 'safe', 'logical', 'enlightened' thought-worlds." *** Post of the Week, February 15-21 *** "With each 'scientific discovery' ther are other 'scientists' who disagree with them. Calling these facts is ludicrous! Scientists still do not understand thunderstorms, tornadoes, earthquakes, disease, and on and on, and humans have been around for thousands of years!" "That is beyond me but i'll pray for jah. All i know is that evolutionists created this [new-age Gaia] theory because their theory was not good enough by itself so they just made some stuff up. P.S. A guy named Kent Hovind Has a good site on creation science and anti-evolution theory if your interested." "Incessant denial from Naturalists does little to alter the fact of their true agenda : attempting to monopolize all facets of society, especially education, with their materialistic world view." "All of that is very true. [Democratic presidential candidate John] Kerry is an idiot of Orwellian proportions. He wouldn't be able to find his butt unless a NYT poll showed him where it is. The only reason Kerry has a chance is because he fits the liberal agenda of destroying this country a little at a time, and turning us into a socialist crap hole just like Europe." "I'm so sick of reading about gays and them wanting their rights, too. It's EVERYWHERE you turn. Seems like not a day goes by where I don't hear about gays and their agenda, it's like we can't get away from it. Talking about forcing one's view down my throat." "Kerry threw his medals down on the ground during a demonstration after he had fought side by side with the men he was now disrespecting. He could be tried for treason if you ask me." "Man coming from a monkey, that came from a dog, that came from a fish, that came from a germ, that came from a black hole, that came from a big bang, that came from nothingness... is a theory. (and thats what you have faith in)" *** 'Most Edumacated Creationist' Trophy *** "Hmmm... well let me know when it morphs into a rat. O sorry, it didn't happen outside a laboratory? O well, what to do... Hey if we can clone an animal why can't we tamper with nature and evolve something IN CLOSED CONDITIONS? When I see bacteria turn into a frog in my backyard then I may believe the evolutionism tripe... And if evolution is merely a change, why then is it impossible to go from a human to an ape again?" "Why is that [dry geologic periods going millions of years back] proof there was no flood? it's quite obvious you are ignorant to the YEC models, theories and the truth.
" *** Bizarre Creationist Assertion of the Month *** "You need to realize that the flood covered an area, then like the tide receded, exposing the land for a short duration allowing animals as you mentioned above to walk on the surface [and leave dry-looking tracks]. As the flood continued the waters reoccupied the area, finally covering the track allowing them to be captured in the soon to be rock." "Why would I be joking? Do you actually think your mocking attitude refutes what I presented?" "That's because creation science is science and not religion like evolution is." "This is crazy!.. Supernatural forces are responsible for the phenomenon. The small village near Messina on the Mediterranean island's coast was evacuated this week, after a mysterious outbreak of spontaneous fires... " "Yeah so? Should we repeal homicide statutes and statutes against theft because they have purely religious grounds, i.e. based upon the Ten Commandments?" "It clearly defies the type of behavior that humans were intended to follow. What good has come from homosexuality? They can't reproduce, they spread AIDS, etc. Homosexuality is a choice, not something that people are born with. And in this world, it's wrong to discriminate against traits that one is born with, but when you make a choice you can be held responsible for it, so don't gimme any of this Civil Rights stuff." *** 'Skepticism Pays Off!' Prize *** "the complexity of creatures of the earth is unbelieveable and shows intelligent design... His power is evident in healings and people being raised from the dead(there have been over 200 cases in Mexico alone in the past 20 years. and I am talking people that have been dead for over a day) So yes God still moves today." "Oh come on!!! This old bag of dirt [Darwin] has been proven wrong over and over by creationists. But it's all the athiests have to hang on to so they just keep changing their theories and attaching them to
darwinism." "Because then atheists would actually have to consider the possibility of a superior being, and then they aren't the supreme beings of the universe anymore. Its a pride thing." "I think we're being tolerant. Granting priviliges, rights and recognition based on sexual perversion... sends a message to our children that homosexuality is normal, acceptable and right when God says clearly it is an abomination... so no surprise that a bevy of atheists are all for it, and here on a Christian website day and night mocking the faith and trying to drag us all, and the entire world, to hell along with them." "Stop the Radical Religious Right from Amending the U.S. Constitution? It was the religious right that fashioned the Constitution." "I don't want my kids growing up in a red light district or a San Francisco. How many souls will be lost and damned for all eternity if we allow our children to grow up in a nation that not only allows but sanctions perversion? How soon do we get get a national monument to homsexuals like the Netherlands? How long after this before our rates of child prostitution more than treble as they have in the Netherlands? " "To approve one sexual abomination is to give way on all... I am also frightened by a few small interest groups of no morality whatever, who can't figure out what their sex organs are designed for, who are morally degraded at worst or meentally ill at best imposing their world view." "Anyone ever heard of the second law of thermodynamics?... we have never made anything go from order to chaos in science thus far, I believe, and suddenly we can spout theories about evolving from monkeys or whatever they are making up now? That kinda goes against it doesn't it? If they're gonna make an argument they might want to at least get all of science on the same side." "665 Gay Marriages Take Place in S.F. Very interesting number I want a recount!!! Were just one digit shy of that lucky number..." "If I lived in SF I would be watching out for fire and brimstone about now." [On two lesbians who've been together 50 years marrying in San Francisco]
"I say go for it. As long as it's not recognized as a real marriage, then I say let the lesbians have their little fantasy pretend wedding. It's kind of like when we used to play house or doctor as a kid. I'll bet Pat will be shaking with nervous excitment tonight as she puts that strap on around her waist first time and prepares Nancy for that beautiful first time." "What, Are we not to suspect that these young married couples aren't virgins? That they gave themselves over before the big wedding day? Are you trying to say that all homosexuals are just into it for the sex???" *** Anti-Gay Marriage Argument of the Month *** "When will you realize that marriage was made for heterosexual men and women for the soul purpose of having kids. Marriage first came about in the Roman Catholic Church so don't even try to argue with me. Marriage is a privelage, not a right. Homosexuals don't deserve that right." "There is no constitutional anything regarding the 'seperation of church and state' This is a made up lie, and everyone should know this by now! Yes , stand up for GOD being in the schools... Kids are not stupid, especially if they are being taught Christianity and Christian values. The kids might 'look' at evil but they will reject it." "i dont fear science. i fear whack job evolutionist who take there uber evolution too far and start oppressing Christians and Jews though." "people have to realize evolution is a philosophy. the only reason scientists preach about the earth being millions if not billions of years ago, is because they are motivated to do such because of their athiestic view of things. Christians likewise believe the world is young, primarily because of religious beliefs and dating back the generations from Jesus's genealogy in the Gospel of Luke." "Something you WANT isn't a right. If I want to shoplift, it doesn't really hurt anyone does that make it a right?" "so theres that right there, but other 3rd world countries will beat you, kill you or imprison you [for preaching the Gospel]. in China theres SOME underground churches but preaching there is illegal. I think its France, i believe, you can tell anyone on the streets about any religion, but Christianity i think theyll imprison you or just an officer will kill you." "The Dead Sea Scrolls [containing the Old Testament] corroborate with the Bible on all core facts. However, being that they are not included in the Bible, this can be considered a secular source." "If this [young-earth creationism] is not true, then Christianity is worthless and a total lie. Plain and simple. Evolution is an evil lie of Satan and is destroying the lives of millions of children." "It is these people who control secular education in the U.S. It appears - that their goal is to continue to ensure that American Children are deliberately kept stupid, and that they can erase any mention of God & Christianity wherever possible." "The planet would be littered with millions of fossiles from all types of creatures like half man, half ape, or part cow part chicken and so forth....*IF* there were such thing as evolution." Last Update "Now according to you lot, the most complex thing in the known universe... found its own way here by chance processes... The only reason my backside is not on top of my head is because when those unfortunate mutant ancestors of mine which did have their backsides on top of their head had bowel movement, the 'waste' ended up in their eyes, rendering failure of sight, they could no longer outrun predators, and were thus eaten (assuming their eyes were in the same 'perfect' location they are now, and not in a more beneficial location specifically for rectum on top of head mutant ancestors such as attached to the end of their fingers - which would of course cause more problems... and even though they would have been covered in waste(though this does raise another interesting point, that perhaps this made the prey unattractive to the predator, or, perhaps some mechanism such as a waste in eye extraction mechanism to extract the impediment could have evolved(not been designed of course)), this could have been us today). Hence the reason why their genetic information was not passed on, the (millions) of mutations required to get the waste system on top of the head was deleterious(for obvious reasons), and they became exstinct (thank ... was going to say God here - sorry) . Of course, there are no fossills of these mutants, nor can the above be emperically verified, but this is the nature of evolution from simpler organisms to higher - none of it can be emperically verified, oh, but this impossibility is logical so it is said." "Why is Christianity feared? Obviously, it's the one true faith." "By the way, once you take God out of the picture in this argument, homosexuality is okay. If God doesn't exist homosexuality is fine. But, so is polygamy, brother-sister marriages, even bestiality. That's why homosexual marriage should be illegal." "Good conscience requires us jailing/removing homosexuals from moral society; otherwise, homosexuality rots society into complete anarchy. There is absolutely nothing beneficial to society by legally allowing homosexuality. Homosexuality represents nothing but anarchy in all its forms from moral anarchy to legal anarchy. Why do homosexuals have amoral freedom when other lawbreakers are in jail and some of those jailed repent and accept Yeshua's salvation? The salvation message is just as strong for homosexuals in jail." "You must think sending lawbreakers to jail is hateful. Some of you sound so confused to those who wonder what you stand for as a Christian." "A common belief among uneducated critics, but in actual fact, almost every historian and archeologist considers the bible to be one of the most valuble historical source... So therefore it would only be logical to assume that if the bible is correct in this area, it is also just as reliable in other areas, such as faith and spirituality." "There are documented miracles, His documented resurrection, and none of His words have ever been proven a lie... it is simply stubborn unbelief despite the evidence. That is willful rebellion against God and is what keeps people from His love. People are deliberately choosing hell. That is what is ludicrous!" "Again, the events of Jesus's life have been well documented. Denial is the inability to acknowledge reality. No one can prove reality to a psychotic, Jet Black. The fact that you have to try to dispute the evidence that Jesus died for you shows that the evidence does exist in order for it to be refuted." "NOTHING could make me think Christianity was false. Not aliens landing, not time machines and certainly not the doubting, nay-saying, left-wing, liberal, evolutionist, sin-loving, God-hating rabble that tries to test us every day and fails - miserably." "And in the desperate attempts to prove the validity of the theory evolutionism has sort of collapsed in upon itself with the weight of evidence against it... I believe that the scientific and academic community now has egg on thier face over this ridiculous theory. They hung all thier hopes upon it being proven, and have basically still not publically given up on finding proof for the theory... The science fiction madness that took control of our science classes and laboratories is finally turning again to what can be proven..." "If God didn't decree it [Serbian police killing the children of Albanians], I don't see any justification for that case... the Nazis [killing Jewish children] are not under the command of YHWH? Under that assumption, they are morally at fault." "God's morals are absolute. If He said murder was good, it would be good." "If Evolution is correct then tell me... Can I take a glass box sealed air tight and have that box create complex organisms, which evole into humans?? or for that matter will that box have a Complex Universe created insided of it? I see evolutionist telling why things are how they are but never giving any proof of how they got here." "I do not know iof Darwin being a misfit, but... he is called a great scientist when all he did was write a book... Today evolution is scientifically been proven false yet its diehard advocates which really are only rejecting God hold to it for they have NO alternative theory to explain life without God, of whom they despise!" "I believe God's judgement has increased on this nation on account of this [abortion] and the only reason our nation is standing is because there are a 'true remnant of Christ who are truly serving the Lord Jesus Christ and because of preisdnet Bush. God's favor certainly rests on Him and his cabinet... 9/11 could have been much worse if Gore was in office, the white house could have been destroyed who knows what all because the Lord's favor wasn't on Him." "He [a protestor wearing a mask and holding a "Gay: Got AIDS
Yet?" sign] is probably someone on the gay agenda posing as a Christian so they can have it posted on chat boards to discredit Chistians." "That was my thought also, but I didn't want to look like the conspiracy theory kook. thanks abkn [thumbs-up smiley]" "I just want to clear up that I thought that sign was really messed up! and not what a christian would be carrying around. that is why I think they were 'plants'." *** Post of the Week, February 22-28 *** "Democracy is turned into a Demoncracy in Christian countries. If in USA 70% of people are not Christians, then they would vote for a president like them, not Christian. They would vote for laws that are against Christianity... So let us destroy lies of Devil now and forever I and you together... The Christians had given all human rights freely to all not Christians. But why and for what??... When we give these rights to unbelievers in thus way we give these rights to the Devil, and he, Devil receives big power from us as a gift... It is the same to give Devil a stick and to ask him to beat our heads, and after to say that 'it is God’s will'. 100 year ago in 1904 all world was under Christian leadership. But now situation is changed. To lose every thing in one century?? We must keep democracy in our countries for Christians and take all not necessary, dangerous rights from unbelievers. For example we must take a right for voting (suffrage)... we must not do the same errors again. And we must not be fooled and to work to take some so called human rights from unbelievers, from criminals and so on. And not be ashamed by doing it. We gave human rights we must take it back. It is strange how many Christians believe to the ideas which they heard from unbelievers, from their enemies." "If I woke up and saw that [extraterrestrials] on the news I would immediately think that the AntiChrist has come with his demons. I don't believe in aliens, I don't believe in dinosaurs and I don't believe in other God's besides the God the father, God the son and God the Holy spirit." "Why hasn't NASA sent humans to these other universes if a human can survive elsewhere? I think everytime a space ship blows up, that's God's way of telling us to stay our behinds on the earth where He put us. Going in space is just disrupting the heavens." "In the Bible, when they were building the tower of Babel trying to reach the heavens, God gave them all different languages so they couldn't communicate with each other. That could have been considered cruel too to those who could no longer communicate with their families." *** 'Science iz Evil!!!11' Prize *** "Maybe, just maybe, when NASA goes into outer space, they are disrupting the heavens some kind of way... He may allow some things, like a space shuttle exploding, to happen to keep us humble so that we know He is in control... In God's infinite wisdom, He knows that if He placed us on Earth, that's where we should stay until death. Humans are too smart for their own good sometimes. All that cloning and open heart surgery, I don't believe that God intended it to be that way. Sure he allows us to do it, but eventually, we will know when we have made Him angry." "The reason I don't believe in dinos is the same reason some of you
don't believe in God. I have never seen, felt or heard a dino. I have never seen
anything about a dino but what is in a science book. And I don't believe
everything that I have been taught out of that science book either, I just
learned it to make the grade in school. But God, I have felt and heard and I
have seen the evidence of Him. Your evidence that a dino existed is the
skeletons in the musuems. Part of my evidence that God exists is the fact that I
exist because He created me." "But I can flip this around Catsangel and say how can someone believe in a dinosaur and NOT believe in God. The proof for the so called dinosaur is in a bone somebody supposedly dug up. The proof for God's existence is the fact that we are here. Otherwise, where did we come from?" "I just have never talked about the space shuttles before. I have felt this way for a long time... I don't think we belong in outerspace. I might be wrong about God blowing up the space shuttles, but I wouldn't blame Him if He actually did it as a form of punishment... A lot of humanity's problems stem from them experimenting with things. AIDS is a disease that I feel originated from human sin." [Replying to 'Then why did God allow us to reach the moon?'] "If God didn't want male to sleep with male why did He allow it? If God didn't want us to lie, why did He allow us to do it? If God didn't want us to believe in other gods, why does He allow us to do it? If God didn't want us to kill, why does He allow us to kill? Just because God allows something to happen doesn't mean that is what His original intentions were." "I wonder if in the future we will see those who call paedophilia a sin labelled 'fundamentalists', and the rest of the world will say 'Well, paedophiles can't help it if they find children attractive - why should they be deprived of a relationship just because they are paedophiles?'; except we return to the Word of God, I can see the day when 'marriages' between adults and children will become a reality." |