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Fundies Say the Darndest Things! June
2003 Edition
"The curse of atheism is not an intellectual one but
rather moral. You see, an atheist knows that if they believe there is a
God, they will have to change the way they live. Professing atheism has
become a fashion these days. Many illiterate people also proudly identify
themselves with these beliefs. In addition, some political parties adopt
this theme as their party principle." "I'm not here for you or your satanic cult group of
atheists who's only purpose here is to do the work of the devil by
smearing your false man made beliefs and corrupt the word of God." "This is harsh but the mind of an atheist is like a
night club. They don't want you to see them intoxicating themselves,
sitting with another woman that's not their wife, acting like heathens.
You turn the light on and they scatter like roaches." [Replying to 'Were Adam and Eve black?'] "No.
They were white like milk. There are no whites on earth today! This white
-vs- black is of the devil! All who are on the earth today are black of
different degrees." "Adam and Eve before the fall were white like milk!
After the fall this is not true of anyone but Christ." "well I suspect man was white in the beginning since
it is said man was created in the image of God and his shining glory was
bright and I guess white then." "I Do Not Belive That Gay Marrage Should Not Be
Allowed. Its Unethical, Unatureal, And People are not Born gay. As A
christain country this should have never been allowed to happen. It goes
aginest every thing that christianty is." "Excuse me? So if Christianity is based on hate,
where are all the Roman Catholic suicide bombers?" "Both Harry Potter and Pokemon have been denounced at
our church. Our youth pastor frequently warns of the evil trash..." "I just read an article, that because of TV (Sabrina
the teenage witch, Buffy, and Harry Potter more and more people are coming
to witchcraft, which GOD said HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH it...Why we justify
evil. I'll never understand." "All these books and programs do is make whichcraft
look fun, and that there is nothing wrong with it, they are just
glorifying it. Why would they take a terrible sin like that and make it
look like it isnt that bad? Next they will be making shows with homosexual
5 year olds, but everyone will think it is ok, because the main homosexual
character is fighting evil..." "Alot of people are starting to watch these crazy
folks [cold readers] who say they talk to the dead..and it is
forbidden in God's Word to do that..FORBIDDEN!! You are messing with
demonic forces you can-not control.." "As a matter of fact I do NOT let my kids watch
ANYTHING with witchcraft, even wizard of oz. They dont see any Disney
movies with witches at all, or even the Dora the Explorer that has the
wizard or the witch on. " "I as well as several others pray for this board. I
think Satan and his minions try hard to take down a M[essage]B[oard]
like this where there are thousands upon thousands of hits from guests an
members." "Keep in mind that the Quran has some very specific
scientific statements that, if proven wrong, would disprove the whole
Quran. The difference is, if I'm wrong about my faith and there is no God,
I lose nothing..." "I don't care how you interpret your experience. For
me, N[ear]D[eath]E[xperience]s are evidence of life
after death, and nothing anyone says could ever change that. And even if
there weren't NDEs at all, I'd believe in life after death. My beliefs are
independent of evidence. Blind faith is what makes me tick." "Things can be real even if you can't prove them to
others. I can't prove to other people that God and the afterlife are real,
but the fact remains that they are real, no matter what people
believe." *** Post of the Month for June 2003 *** "I was really quite impressed by some of the quotes [on
Fundies Say the Darndest Things!], and thought they were excellent
witnesses to anybody who might read them." "prophecies vague? not really- ever read revelation?
Looks pretty descriptive to me." "He only gives you enough information to spark your
curiosity so that you may go research it more and wonder...opening
yourself up to demonic attack..." "I personally consider evolution to be a tactic used
by Satan to raise the possibility there is no God and we are but a
coincidence, a freak accident." "Yup....evolution would have you believe that you are
not a special creation and that once you die....thats it! No hereafter, no
judgement, no eternal life. Thus, get all you can, however you can today,
because in the end only the fittest survive. Its a crock that's falsely
labeled as science......its not even good science. Its a hoax." "When I was very young, the dinosaur books which I
read emphasized evolution, so I, being ignorant, accepted it as the truth
because it was in my dinosaur books! Who was I to question adult
paleontologists?" "If we 'evolved' from gorillas, they would be
extinct. Evoloution is a total change from one animal or plant, to
another. Last time I checked, you can go a see gorillas at your local
zoo." "Biology is not my job, so it is not up to me to come
up with a better [classification] system. Let's look at an example:
Animal, vegetable or Mineral. Is the Pearl produced by a claim a animal or
a mineral?" "If science claims that one species changed into
another, then that simply means they do not know what a species is.
Because the Bible clearly says that God created 'according to their
kind'." "If God had already come into this world to help us
knew Him personally, then, why humans hated/hate to believe Him and accept
His as their God? The answer is:... Human's Sinful Gene" "I hope this forum isnt just poking fun at him. I
hope you dont worship the great God science, because false idols are
forbidden. I dont get it, science is wrong more often than right and yet
you people seem to worship it as if it was your maker." [From a Canadian] "Since our country has
basically begun to cave in, allowing same sex marriages, how many think we
now have givin reasons to Islamic terrorist to hit Canada for our
immortality[sic]. The western governments have always been stated
as an enemy. Won't this give justification to them to attack Canada?
(Canada's immoral act). They call all of us the 'devil' states don't they?
What would the Islamic populas think of Canada leading in same sex
marriage?" "Then, yesterday, Mom and I were talking about the
trials of raising teenagers, and I said "Well, hopefully Jesus will
come back before then and I won't have to worry about it." She was
horrified by the thought - like that would cheating them out of life or
something. I said 'Mom, Christ returning is a GOOD thing!' She just looked
at me like I was crazy." "That is a thought. I wonder if a lot of medical
'advancements' are the work of satan??? Does that sound stupid? I know
that abortion is the work of the devil, for one, and cloning is a scary
thing indeed. What you say makes complete sense though. I pray the Lord
takes us soon." "The world hates the Idea of Jesus coming back. The
world hates Christians for even talking about it. So why are they doing
everything they can to bring it about, and then blame us for it." "I told them of the places in the [Harry Potter]
books where it is NOT fiction - but actual spells, actual book titles,
actual people that had been steeped in the occult. They sat there with
their mouths hanging open, because they had had no idea." "After reading the beginning of the front page at
witchonthego.com, and seeing how the book was released on the same day
that witches believe God is at His weakest, I will undoubtedly never allow
my children to partake in this festival of evil...the sugar-coated satanic
cult of Harry Potter. How EVIL is that, to have children celebrating on
the same day that witches are rejoicing because they believe God is weak
today?!?!" *** Post of the Week for June 29-July 5, 2003 *** "I'd rather read a Left Behind book over a Harry
Potter one anyday. But then again, that's just me. I'm a military person
and I like books that are more realistic." "If 'the fear of the Lord is the beginning of
knowledge', then all knowledge must be taught based on that fear of the
Lord. All that we learn must be learned in acknowlegement of and in
submission to the Truth of God found in Jesus Christ." "How many of you Evolutionist have proof of the Big
BANG. You have to Explain how and why it dose not agree with all the
scientific laws that are present." "I dont Have to do that [provide evidence] mot
of the public Knows It dose not comply with the Laws of Thermodynamics.
and many others. " "I've sat idle watching ahteists, humanists, wiccas
make a mockery of the Christian faith, God and his divine word. Now look,
the forum crashes, and the blasphemy is lost. Oh the irony of it
all!" "I think this is just as easily explained by the
hypothesis that these people [the National Academy of Sciences] are
using evolution as an excuse to avoid God." "But that's par for the course with evolutionists,
whether atheists or their churchian 'useful idiot' dupes." "You could only know that God gave you reliable
senses because God has revealed it in Scripture. In other words, faith in
God's revelation in Scripture is logically prior when it comes to you
being able to provide a rational account as to why you believe your senses
are reliable. Science cannot be posited as the standard by which you come
to know that your senses are reliable since scientific investigation needs
to presuppose sense reliability (and human rationality) from the
outset." "I dont know if Satan 'ghost-writ' this [Harry
Potter] book or not. But you're argument is kinda week. If we took
your logic out to it's natural conclusion then we would have to say that
the Holy Spirit didnt write scripture thru the many authors it had. We
would have to say that 'Paul wrote the book, just like any other writer
writes a book.'" "You are saying that the Chihuahua is proof for
evolution right because it cannot repoduce with the original dog? Is that
correct? If so, why is the chihuahua not a dog? Is it a cat or bird or
fish? Maybe its a plant because its getting smaller and slowly turning
into a piece of fruit..." "And there won't be organ music playing [during
the Rapture] - it will be trumpets ( and im not even sure unbelievers
will be able to hear them)." "And read the verse again. God will send them a
delusion so that THEY may believe a lie. God isn't lying - He specifically
states He will send a delusion." "How do you want God to show you signs ? I can tell
you that one night I prayed and I felt a warmth in my troaght I cannot
explain. You know what , Im 100% sure science can find an explanation! It
could have been placebo!" "First we catered to the liberal Christians, many of
whom stand in stark contrast to Christs teachings and teach contrary to
what the bible seems to say..." "I would rather be a heartless conservative than a
brainless liberal anyday!" "Just curious what you thought about all of this
anti-American, President Bush bashing coming from the mouths of ignorant
fools like Susan Sarandon, Jeannine Garafalo, Sean Penn, The Dixie Chicks,
etc, etc, etc." "Sure, shoot your mouth of like a moron and say all
sorts of nasty things about the war and the President of the US, but don't
expect me to sit here and be stupid enough to support your work when you
spout your sewer off about things ignorantly." "And yes, I will stereotype Hollywood. I doubt very
few actors/actresses have a faith in God. I would guess that most of them
are atheists, which is nothing but a cover for self-worship." "If they kept their yapper shut and didn't bash the
President and the war effort I probably wouldn't even know if they were an
atheist or not." "I said that atheists are self-worshippers. God made
us to worship something or someone. If you aren't worshipping God, you are
worshipping something else, and the atheists want to be in control of
everything, so that would be worship of the self." "Sorry, but the Democrats have turned into appeasing
socialists. P[olitically]C[orrecting]'ing the world to death
through programs and tolerance." "Don't sweat it though - the entire rap community
will eventually kill themselves all off. They are interested in nothing
but money anyway. Greedy group of vulchers." "The libs talk a lot about tolerance, but their
actions are only 'PC'. That's political correctness and it is used by
anti-faith bigots and hatemongers to try to silence Christians and
observant Jews." "I always felt that the devil has been involved in
all this. He can make the earth appear much older or much younger. He can
make us believe that man did not exist with dinnosaurs. After all he is
the great deceiver. I for one used to believe UFO existed, even saw some.
But then thru my bible studies and more reading of my bible I realized it
is just the devil and his cohorts doing their dirty deeds. He is very
active in our times." "You started to let satan or demons do your thinking
for you [when you began questioning]." "In order to do that I would actually have to read
the thread. I will take your advise under consideration and give it some
thought. But for now my objective is just to have fun with your guys. I
like to push your buttons." "Also, evolution undermines the biblical teaching
that humanity is ONE RACE because we are all descended from Adam..." "This means that a person who believes we descended
from apes or that all life came from a primitive protocell is inventing
their own private version of Christianity which in a technical sense is
not the Christianity of the Bible. This does not mean that their belief in
Jesus Christ will not save them. It simply means that they are
compromising with the world and in that sense could be said to not be
genuine Christians." "And I would want to know why Christian parents were
sending their kids to the anti-God public school system in the first
place. It's like the Israelites sending their kids to the Canaanites to be
educated." "I hope I haven't offended any of you evolutionist
types by using facts and logic " "There indecision is in favor of no God rather than
for there being a God so they in reality are atheists dressed in agnostic
dogma." "So, this taking out Saddam may have been an act of
God under the circumstances. God has had to take out other enemy nations
bent on taking out Israel. God will protect Israel as He sees fit, if it
means destroy the enemy in the case of Saddam." "I have spent lots of time finding internet resources
to show the witness the contradictions in their philosophy. We have had
ten different [Jehovah's] witnesses come to our house, and
everything we say goes in one ear and out the other." "Their reasoning is very circular - and you have to
break the circle in order to make any headway." "If you think most liberals are so open minded their
brains fell out... you're in good company." "I remember watching a program many years ago where
this scientist had conducted experiments on humans and different types of
animals. When the people died there was a noticible reduction of weight at
the moment of death (the beds were on a scale) and with the animals there
was no change in weight at the moment of death. His conclusion was that
something left the body, but he wasn't sure what." "Incidentally, the 'nothingness' is also in the
school books. It is how kids are taught. They came from nothing, rained on
rocks, swam in ooze, and evolved into monkeys then people. That is one of
the reasons why we have the problems we have today." "I visited the Geocentricity website and found it not
as looney as I'd thought." "The dream I am referring to was one I had on January
23, 1993, and which was in two parts. The title of this thread was the
answer God the Father gave me when I asked Him when the 'End' (the
Rapture) would be... Possibly (not to "prophesy"), the Rapture
would occur on June 8, 2003 A.D... It might mean that Saddam is kicked out
of Iraq in June; it might mean that he attacks Israel in June; it might
mean that the Rapture occurs in June... Something to keep in mind, at
least until June 8." "If it proves not to be the case, I would simply
conclude that I was wrong. Actually, it would not be unless the Rapture
did not occur within the first 2 months of 2004 that I would begin to
doubt the general time frame for the Rapture that I believe is in several
ways indicated..." [On June 9th] "I'm pretty sure, though, that I
did not claim that the Rapture would happen June 8 of this year. I'm
pretty sure I said that it was one of two apparently very strong
possibilities. But thanks to charlie d for his concern. Now, it would seem
that September 27 or so would be the most likely time for the Rapture.
Assuming my assumptions are correct." "September 27, 2003 (or September 26 or September 28,
depending on whose particular calendar one consults) - The Feast of
Trumpets for 2003. But I want to try to make it clear for those whose
discernment is cloudy or clouded that I am not 'PREDICTING' anything. It's
just an educated guess as to a likely time for the Rapture." "By the way, your argument regarding all the failed
prophecies regarding the time of the Rapture would be equivalent to those
prior to the Wright Brothers who presented all the failed attempts at
human flight as proof that human flight would never occur. Guess how that
turned out." "There are several errors (no offense) in your
reasoning. First, Jesus did not say 'No man knows or will know the day or
the hour' - what He said was true when He said it, but it does not
necessarily follow that it must be true until He returns. Second, Jesus is
very precise in saying 'day' and 'hour' - note that He does not include
'month' or 'year'; thus, someone might know within a few days (perhaps
calendrical questions and variances would prevent them from 'knowing' the
exact day)..." "I would note that I have claimed that God has
'spoken' to me directly only three or four times 'via dreams', and that
only one of those involved 'knowledge of the specifics of future events'.
" "Duck-billed platypus. Mammal, or reptile? Or
transitional form between a crocodile and a duck?" "... where Catholics can preach to the choir without
fear of independent or critical thought." "People generally accept atheism so they can indulge
their own selfish desires and ideals..." "Actually, there is strong evidence that many
dinosaur fossils aren't that old at all. Many bones have been found that
have not been completely fossilized and are still partly bone. In fact,
several hadrosaur skeletons have been found in Alaska that are so fresh,
some still have the ligaments attached!" "Are these [video games] evil or is it a
battle between good and evil and won't preoccupy the mind. I notice he [the
husband] gets up early in the morning to play before work or church
even! Some games are the Starcraft ones (sounds like witchcraft), Heroes
of Might & Magic., Lords, etc. Some of the pictures are so evil!" "Before discounting the Flood, modern science should
humbly remember that if we were only to trust its explanatory models and
predictions the Pyramids would be an historical impossibility. But there
they are, for all to see, still driving evolutionary scientists crazy
after all these years." [On Harry Potter] "I've been saying this all
along. You are either with Jesus or you are not. Pokemon is anti trinity
as well." [Replying to 'you've gotta be kidding']
"Actually, Pokeman is not a good choice at all. Do a search and
you'll find out what's really going on. Same ballpark as the Harry Potter
stuff, IMO." "Those of us who have had Pokemon stuff around us and
have researched it know that it is blasphemous of the trinity, so I don't
understand why there are still Christians who are still arguing for
it." "I don't mean to be skeptical... but exactly how does
Pokemon portray an anti-trinity?" "It's a foregone conclusion that Satan has been
standing over J.K. Rowling's shoulder from the moment she first put pen to
paper. The ONLY matter up for debate is whether or not she
KNOWS he's there." "Yes, pokeman are evil... Shoefoot [a Venezuelan
shaman] does not speak English, but when a missionary showed him a
book of pokemans he identified each one by it's name in his own language
(he is from the most primitive culture in the world). He said they are
starter demons for children. Now if a fellow who has been demonically
possessed, and who has actually danced with the devil can recognize them
for what they are - I think we should take notice." "Better to be paranoid and always on guard than lax
and deceived left and right. Such an attitude makes one easy prey for
Satan cuz the next thing you know... He doesn't really exist and isn't out
to get you at all." "Keep in mind also about the Yugi-oh cards. I saw
them (have had a bg with paganism and wicca) and I knew what they were
before I Saw the name. These are very clearly demonic.. and after seeing
them, a week later in the Dollar Tree store in a local town, we (parents
and I) fell upon a book explaining the ancient mysteries of
Yugi-oh......... and it falls right in line with Poke-mon/Wicca/Paganism
and Neo Paganism/Druidism." "From what I can recall, it [Pokemon] has to
do with mind control and casting some type of spell on those who don't
obey." *** Post of the Week for June 22-28, 2003 *** "Pokemon are slowly mesmerizing our children into
believing that EVOLVING MONSTERS USE VIOLENCE AND POWER TO PREVAIL OVER
THE UNIVERSE... Watch it for one show and you can see all the ways that it
teaches children that overcoming others with violence is how to rule the
earth." "Abolish the gun permits, abolish gun registration,
abolish background checks, and other infringements of the government, that
infringe on the liberties of American Citizens and violate the
Contitution, the supreme law of the land." "Whether some [old earth] creationists 200
years in the past came to the wrong conclusion about the age of the Earth
has no bearing on the truth of the matter." "Well, I'm no scientist or theologan. However, many
people believe that when God created the earth he gave Satan, who was the
highest of all the angels dominion over the earth. Satans fall occurred
when he tried to make himself like God and tried his hand at creation and
made the dinosaurs." "(Christians) Do you believe the earth to be 6,000
years old? I saw this on a show, and was very doubtful of it, because of
erosion is some places that should take millions of years, but after
watching some good ol' kent hovind, i understand and believe it now!" "i doubt it's been around millions of years, 6,000
years sounds about right. doesn't make much difference though. when you
think about it it makes more sense for it to only be thousands of years
old, if it's been around for millions, i can't imagine what's being
happening these past million years." "for awhile, dinosaurs really threw me for a loop, i
understood the whole adam and eve thing, but i just couldn't figure out
dinosaurs, luckily kent hovind spent some time on that subject!" "Carbon dating is innacurate! I wish I could qoute
the source for this but I can't. Anyway a carbon test was done on
something and found to be millions of years old when it was know to be
only a few hundred years old." "Again, the Bible is Gods word, therefore is the
inspired word of the infinite creator, God, then the word of God must be
self-authenticating and self-attesting." "Right now on the Discovery Channel Satan is hard at
work decieving millions. The program 'Caveman' shows how modern man has
'evolved' from tree limb swinging baboon to homo sapien. The show has
incredible special effects; fortunately I know the truth about the THEORY
of evolution. Pray for others who are watching this." "Yeah.....I looked at part of it....Yikes! ...a
doctrine of devils born out of Hell !" "evolution is so real that there are part humans
living right on my very street...half ape half human. And there are part
dogs, and part cats walking around everywhere, eating partially evolved
fish that have jumped out of the lakes and walked right over... Why hasn't
this been studied more? If things had evolved, we would have all sorts of
species that were in several states of evolving around the world... Makes
no sense whatsoever." "I saw a commercial today about this show and my son
and I were sitting there and I said to him the biggest flaw in this theory
is that if we evolved from Ape's/baboon's then why are they still in
existance today? would they not have evolved too. HE said yep it's
stupid." "It just seems like a stretch to say that everything
came from single-celled organisms in random combinations. If that was the
case, why is it that, according to science, all fish came first, then all
amphibians, then all reptiles, etc.? If it was random, why couldn't
amphibians have come at the same time as fish?" "I heard once 'cave men' were normal humans with
vitamin deficiencies that caused abnormalities." "I had read years ago that in biblical days, many
times the people with birth defects and such were cast out of the
communities, and that they had gone to live in caves (and probably
propagated).........and that those were the skeletons that have been
found. I don't know that it's true, but it would answer a few questions
about the 'cave men', wouldn't it?" "Discovery channel is DEFINITELY an A[nti]C[hrist]
channel!! I suggest staying away from it!! " "I just finished watching another tape from "I saw part of this as well. It was presented as
FACT, not theory. I prayed hard during the time I watched it. It was very
upsetting." "We can repeat that experiment in the lab today. But
you can not repeat a fish turning into a mammal. Or a reptile becoming a
bird. Or spontaneous generation. Or something coming from nothing. So you
still don't have a good grasp on the philosphy behind the science." "no dating method whatsoever can go back 4.5 billion.
Yes that was made up." ['How do you know the bible is God's word?']
"The Bible says so… The word inspiration literally means
'God-breathed' in the Greek. And because Scripture is breathed out by God,
it is true and inerrant." "I’m a Bible believing Christian, with that being
said, quoting scripture from various books of the Bible is all the proof I
need." [Replying to 'Huh? Surely you're pulling my leg?']
"Sorry pal, it ain’t me pulling your leg, but I have an idea who it
is. I pray that you’ll discover who it is, and soon." "Since you don't believe in GOD , you aren't
qualified to debate the matter." "... we need to keep in mind that the theory of
Darwinian evolution was developed to specifically counter the central
theological principle of Christianity." "You need to remember that we should expect this
behavior because unbelievers are only doing what comes naturally. They are
reacting in a way that should not surprise us. If your father is not God,
then your father is Satan. Don't forget that." [On the evolution of flight] "Uh huh, so their
armpit skin and webbed toes allowed them to glide, and the animals decided
that the coolness of gliding outweighed the disadvantages of being a freak
(like being a virgin your whole life), so they threw themselves into
radioactive ooze, transforming into assorted Muppets and finally acheiving
the pinnacle of evolution, becoming the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles!
" "The Bible has been shown to be historically accurate
in its statements. While at first blush this would seem to be a less than
stellar proof of God's inspiration of the Bible, it is notable that other
religious writings often are not." ['Why not be a Christian evolutionist?]
"Because God created us in His image, and I'd say calling God's image
that of primordial sludge to be a major insult. " "Then why did God give the commandment to observe the
Sabbath on the 7th day ( Saturday) ? If Genesis wasn't a literal 7 day
week, we would still be celebrating the Sabbath, every day all year long
for the past 3000 years." "Anyway, you should never become addicted to anything
except that which is beneficial to you (like Islam). To become addicted is
to become a slave to your addiction-- and everyone should remain only as
slaves of Allah." [On a news story where two bozos grilled a guy's dog]
"News alert, people: Dogs ARE edible. I see no reason why the cops
should be searching for those men unless they suspect what they did they
did out of cruelty and not for food." "I personally voted for Bush because he has the most
realistic chance of winning and I never vote for a liberal democrat who is
for abortion, homosexuality and giving freeloaders more goods." [Replying to 'way to invoke gods to fill the gaps']
"I only invoke ONE deity..." "Which was the most plausible explanation (that it
came supernaturally, not necessarilly that it was Zeus) until someone
found a natural explanation for lightning. No such explanation has been
made for life." "... if there was not a god, the world must have
created itself. If this is the case, there would have had to have been
matter that was capable of making up stars, planets, asteroids, etc. The
matter must have come from somewhere. Someone must have created it.
Therefore, there must be a god who created the matter at the least, and
more likely created all that we know." "Evolution on the other hand says it just happened
without any direction, 'Oh yeah,' natural forces! However, these natural
forces don't spontaneously form more complex things." "Its a miracle the vatican hasnt assasinated everyone
thats ever seen the [James, brother of Jesus ossuary] box. News
like that could cause damage to their fables [that Mary was a perpetual
virgin]." "Now I am NOT SAYING all sick people are sinners, but
often this is the case." "If people will turn away from their sin, then God
would heal them of aids. People want healed, but they do not want to give
up their sin and their stinking thinking. We see hundreds, even thousands
of people healed of aids in Africa, because they repent of their sin and
turn to God." "I guess all I was stating is that I really dont care
for 'evidence' presented that either proves or disproves God." "Liberals: What's your evidence that the Bible is...
...not the infallible and inerrant Word of God? Please just post your
evidence. Thanks!" "However it is now THEY [homosexuals] who are
forcing their immorality upon the state, and woe to my country for not
having enough spine to 'just say NO!'. The SARS outbreak in Toronto was
just a warning, one that has not been heeded." "I don't believe that dying animals suffer. The fact
that a nervous system exists proves nothing. I'm sure it is useful for
alerting animals to a wound. But if the animal is going to die there is no
reason God would let it suffer." "Realize, however, that someone who's a true,
hardcore athiest is usually so because of an emotional experience, and not
an intellectual one, as this argument demonstrates. The point being, you
can't fight emotion with intellect. Somehow emotion wins out every
time." "its kinda like on 'the santa clause': "The fact is that I've never seen them [Leprechauns],
but I'm going to remain agnostic about their existence. I've nothing to
back up the conclusion 'They do not exist', so I won't conclude
that." "How can you not believe in God? If God wasnt real
then why is the bible the most bought book in the world. Also, if God isnt
real how come the bible is the oldest book." "all i have to say is: look outside!! you can't say
that all of nature just came into being, just popped up out of no where.
thats hard for me to believe. thats like saying whenever i want to eat the
food is just goin to appear. its easier to believe in God than that
stuff." "did someone say that you can repent in hell...and
then go to heaven? what! you can't do that. once you're in hell...you're
in hell. and you can't escape no matter what. and yes, hell is a place of
fire and pain. its not just a place you go to be protected. its full of
agony and heartache. you want to die...but you can't die!! you could try
and kill yourself a thousand times, but you can't die. its awful." "in heaven there's tons of food and a BIG house that
all of us live in and we know everyone and we get to be with God. its very
beautiful. streets of gold and jewels and so on. it'll be awesome. we
won't have to do a thing. see, you work hard on earth..and then get a free
ride all of eternity...if you're a follower of Christ, that is." "What is the plan in terms of moderators after the
Rapture occurs? I know this site was set up for info for those left behind
, so do those that don't believe or waver have access to be moderators ?
Or will an email be forwarded to MartinM or Budddddyh or Neoplato [atheist
members]? Will the rules for posting change at all then ?" "I would NEVER recommend taking a psychology course
from a secular source. It would be hard to recognize the heresies without
someone pointing them out." "This is the tragic consequence of publicly funded
education, the one true worldview is censored while the atheist's
worldview clouds many scientific disciplines with it's underlying
presuppositions when looking at the world." "Unfortunately, all areas of academic endeavor,
including computer science (whatever that is, as defined in your orbit)
are fallen and subject to evolutionary thought. I see virtually every
department in my institution as reeking with evolutionary thought,
including business, including computers, and especially religion." ['All those unbelievers who are immoral and evil will
go to hell'] "...which would include all of them..." "We're not gonna shelter our daughter from evolution
when we homeschool her. We'll present it to her as the load of bull that
it is, but she'll certainly get exposed to it." "Finally, Homeschooling isn't just about getting a
BETTER education, though that is often the outcome. It is also about being
in better control of what indoctrination your children get." "Since the Bible is supported by the 'Ancient
Documents Rule', the burden of proof to prove it is NOT factual falls on
the accuser and NOT the believer." "I would trash any literature I received from them [Jehovah's
Witnesses], confess the sin of allowing it into your house, repent and
command all demons to leave. It is a doctrine of demons." "What if you were a kid [in Noah's day]? Do
you know what the world was like back then? 100% pure evil and corruption.
The only good in existence was found in Noah and his family. Which means,
like kids do - they follow their parents example - become murderers,
haters, rapists, theives etc., grow up to the point of understanding sin -
reject God's warning - receive just punishment and end up in hell. As
oppose to judging their original sin, along with the rest of the world -
and taking them to heaven - before they are held accountable for their
sins. " "It was because of atheism that I reached a logical
conclusion that allowed me to lose my compassion for other people. I
realize that not everyone who holds an atheistic belief will follow that
belief to its logical end, and/or act upon that conclusion if it is
eventually reached. The only way I can logically see me losing my
compassion for people again is if I lose my faith." "A science fiction write named L. Ron Hubbard
invented the religion of scientology in the middle of the twentieth
century. The basic point is that an alien named Xenu came to earth and
killed a whole bunch of other creatures with volcanoes... It's really one
huge money making scam of a religion." *** Post of the Week for June 15-21, 2003 *** "And educated people beleive this garbage!!!!!! I
don't understand how people will fall for anything. Why is it that people
want so bad to believe in something as long as it is not our Lord and
Savior Jesus Christ????" "Please tell me you're not serious...please...pretty
please...please tell me people don't believe in that... I'm confused....IT
SOUNDS LIKE A SCIENCE FICTION COMIC BOOK OR MOVIE!" "Yes, sadly some people really do believe this stuff.
John Travolta, Tom Cruise, and his ex what's-her-name (you know, the cute
little australian actress) just to name a few. Really though, if you think
about it, it's no weirder than the [Jehovah's Witness] watchtower
garbage or mormon garbage or any other false religion." "Did you see the spirit that was attacking you? Once,
long ago I saw an evil spirit attacking me, and looked nothing like the
evil vampire crap you see in movies and tv. He was blue colored and wore a
crown." "Muslims always lie to get their way, and then they
go ahead doing exactly what they were doing before. Oh well, a lot of
people are going to suffer because of this sham." [After someone says that's a bigoted comment]
"No, it's the truth. Muslims hate Christians and Jews. They lie and
kill. Truth hurts but it's the truth." "Like I said, we have had many threads on this
subject. We know the facts and we have read the Quran. Get your facts
straight or no one is going to take you seriously." [Looking for the 'ban' button after the guy refutes the
above comments again] "I think you are on the wrong message
board. We discuss facts here, not sling mud." [To a Catholic] "Sounds to me like you have
pre-decided that what your church tells you to believe is 100% correct.
" "... anyone who isn't brainwashed by the R[oman]C[atholic]Cc[hurch]
can see this. I[t']s ramblings like yours that gets the rc called a
cult by some." "The fact the bible was translated in several
languages spanning different areas of the world. When you translate them
back to the original form, they are the same. NO WAY THAT COULD BE DONE
WITHOUT DIVINE INTERVENTION." "Also, you have to take into consideration that
demons can effect the thinking of so called men of science to deceive
them. We already see so many areas that people are deceived in, because
they do not accept the truth of the Bible. So if they are deceived and in
error in a area we can observe them in, then how can they be trusted in
areas that we are not as knowledgeable in?" "Stealing is wrong and causes much hardship for the
victim. Is it better to lose a hand and repent from this sin or to allow
oneself to be drawn by such deeds to the eternal punishment of the
Hellfire?" "As for dinosaurs--they were around only a few
thousand years ago. Let me explain: it was 6115 years ago, give or take
about three to five years (I know this because Abraham from the Bible was
born 2166 years ago, and all you have to do is add up the ages of ALL the
people from Adam to Abraham, which are all listed in the Bible's book of
Genesis)." "Anyway, the dinosaurs died out slowly in the years
following the flood--because they were the biggest animals among the
others, and since the flood killed off most of the vegetation on the
earth, the largest animals began to die off by lack of food." [But
what about the tiny dinos?] "The Ceolocanth was thought to be a fish that was
part-dinosaur and was extinct for millions of years, but then they
discovered that it's still alive in the Indian Ocean." "The thumb is of remarkable design that allows us to
pick things up easily, (it would have been much harder to type this
comment if I had not thumbs). If we evolved by chance, how would
'evolution' know that we would be in need of a thumb millions of years
down the road?" "It seems to me that everything around us--plants,
brains, eyes, ears, taste buds, cats, dogs, books, electricity, sunlight,
and even the belief in God--is all evidence that there must be a God.
After all, a nationwide pole shows that 7% of people in the US are actual
atheists, and 47% believe the earth to be created within the last 10
thousand years. " "I must take a moment to point out that you do not
commit the error of circular reasoning when you use the Bible to prove the
Bible. The reason is very simple. You see, the Bible is not one book! It
is a collection of 66 books written by more than 40 authors over a period
of 1,600 years. Therefore, if you quote Jeremiah or Isaiah to substantiate
Daniel, or if you quote Daniel to verify Revelation, you are not involved
in circular reasoning. Instead, you are quoting altogether independent
sources who happen to be bound together between the covers of the same
book. " "If you are right, we will all die and rot in a box.
If we are right, you will burn in Hell for eternity. Are you that sure? Is
an eternity of pain and suffering worth it?" "Anything divided by 0 equals 0, so a [Big Bang]
singularity is still zero." "I mean no disrespect Martinm, but: BLA BLA BLA "The way I look at it, faith in God is something
we're born with..." "Couldnt have God made the earth with fossils and
stuff like that in it ? just a thought" "Why does everyone consider God to be a 'trickster'
if he created the earth to appear old? The Bible states that the just
shall live by faith." "If you clean your dirty house before your visitor
arrives ..are you deceiving the visitor? No. Likewise, God presented a
neatly completed earth package for mankind [by making a fake old earth
with fossils]." "The fossils? God knew we would go digging so He
planted a few fossils here and there to keep us guessing. Likewise He made
the universe out of reach for us. What would happen if our spacecrafts
reached a dead-end? We would think that we have outsmarted God." [After someone says God isn't a liar] "God
presented Himself as a burning bush to Moses. Why didn't an honest God let
the bush burn like all other bushes would do when on fire?" "The fossils convince us that God is indeed smart by
presenting a 'fully serviced garden'." [Replying to 'run that by me again'] "I am
suggesting that God planted the fossils to make an 'appearance of
age'." "Of course I don't really know if the fossils were
planted [by God]. I am only using logic to justify my belief in the
Bible." "I will go with the 'fossil planting' to explain
this. God presented us with a ready-made earth. Nothing is impossible with
God. Maybe He even copied another 'earth' as it was and presented us with
the copied version. I feel that you underestimate an all-powerful God. He
can snap His finger and make another billion 'earths' appear in 6 days. He
can do as He pleases." [Quoting a random website] "Evolutionary
scientists believe that man has existed for one million years. Starting
with just eight people having 2 children every 40 years, the total
population of the earth today would be 10 to the 3000 power. There would
be mountains of bones from the trillions of skeletons of those from past
generations." "why do you discredit a creationist site? They
normaly are less bais than evolutionist sites, many evolutionist seem to
ignore many problems with their theroy, and create invalid problems with
some of the creationist's theroys." "You sound stupid, 90 % of the worlds population
believe in a God of some form. How can so many be so wrong." "Have you any children? And if you lost one would you
want to believe you never again could have the chance to see that child. A
soboring thorugt. A ugly world you must live." "Could you tell a dying child your views. Could you
look some one in the face who is dying of hunger and say i think theres no
God. To take away the only thing thay have and thats the hope thay live
in. An ugly world Martin. Seek God." "... i did'nt mean to call him stupid. But that he
only sounded [like] it." "Evolutionists insist that the duck-billed platypus
is an evolutionary link between mammals and birds right." "prove imeteors hit the earth in the last 6k to 10k
yrs. My point exactly u are making unfounded assertions" [Replying to 'how do you explain craters?']
"land upheaval and sinking, earthquakes, global flood and
volcanoes." "very simple [explanation] about the grand
canyon , the flood. wow that took a whole 30 secs." "Science says six day creation is not possible. In
fact, Satan...umm...I mean Science says the entire Bible is full of
impossibilities" "So basically there is a lot of evidence that
indicates the Earth is young, and there is no evidence to indicate the
Earth is old." "And I'm not going to discard my beliefs because of
somebodies research." "From what I believe I understand about the Bible and
history and current events, and from what I believe God has directly shown
me, I believe that King Juan Carlos is the Antichrist, though it is
possible that he is not. Personally, it seems to me like 99.99% certain
that he is, but I wouldn't state it as a fact, nor as a 'prophecy'." *** Post of the Week for June 8-14, 2003 *** "I don't get too much into 'conspiracy theories',
other than the one about the Government being extremely guilty in the Waco
tragedy, and the one which says that there is a worldwide conspiracy to
establish a global government under the control of a European leader who
will be the Antichrist. Other than that, I'm as non-flaky as can be (in
regard to conspiracy theories)." "They [UFOs] are either 'apparitions' (having
no physical reality whatsoever), or they are physical manifestations of
demonic powers. Angels physically manifested in the Bible, and they are
seen to have swords, chariots, etcetera, so it is quite possible, from my
understanding, that demons (who are fallen angels) might manifest in a
deceptive form, as UFOs (they themselves being the 'aliens', and their
ships being some manipulation of physical/spiritual reality)." "The bible says not to eat pork in the old testament
and then in the new testament it says that you can eat anything.That isnt
a contradiction, as they happened at different times and a change was
made." "It is not unrelated to evolution. That's why the big
bang is always right before (or after) the chapter of evolution in
standard biology text books. Big bang teaches about the first living
particle, and evolution picks it up from there. I've seen it, had to study
it. " "Bull. Atheists by and large don't give a crap about
the starving humans in other countries. After all, to them it's just like
a starving ant in a far off country. A humans value or worth is the same
as any other mutated organism, right? C'mon, don't be afraid of what
evolution teaches, don't hide it. This is what atheism/evolution is all
about." "The big bang was a thing that happened by chance,
which is considered a miracle, but evolutionists do not believe in
miracles, correct?" "Do you really think Earth survived 4.5 billion years
without being hit by a supernova or a massive comet and being completely
destroyed?" "If the dinosaurs did get hit by a comet 65 million
years ago, how did new species come about, since dinosaurs were the only
animals on the planet at the time?" "Nothing is below Satan and I have no doubt that he
is probably THE major cause of mental illnesses. Someone who knows more
about chemical imbalances of the brain may say different but what (or WHO)
causes those?" *** Post of the Week for June 1-7, 2003 *** "Try going to a satanic chatline and see how tolerant
they are when you mention 'Jesus'. After they curse you and cast spells on
you and things start flying around your room,you will never go back." "... if you look at america's moral decline its
anything but made of white christians..lol." "Certain races have over 80 of their live births out
of wedlock." "Who are you, o man, that you have a right to
anything except immediate death for intentionally disobeying God!!!!" "I've heard of women boasting of having orgasms
during abortions. They are no doubt very rare, but there isn't a doubt in
my mind that some women hate the children inside them." "I heard it on a radio talk show where the caller who
brought it up was a rabid anti-abortionist." "The Constitution doesn't grant rights to anyone,
because only dictators have that power." "The so-called 'sorting' of the fossils is one of the
biggest frauds ever invented by evolutionists." "Once again, you manage to follow suit with the
atheists before you by citing 'lots' of (unnamed) scholars that believe
like you do. Honestly, how much is a statement like this worth?" "A common atheistic device is to list aberrant
scholars that are so liberal that they don’t really believe the Bible
(or know the Bible) and use their statements to help their cases." [After posting the above] "First, it is
inappropriate for you to dismiss the [conservative] theologians I
mention out of hand. You admittedly know nothing about them. I’ve
debated quite a bit, but you have shown me a new tactic that I won’t
forget (albeit a poor one): discrediting my sources out of hand while
deifying your own sources." "You don’t understand the nature of many Bible
prophecies. It is a common error to say a fulfilled prophecy was taken out
of context because it contains a present meaning and a future meaning.
Simpletons don’t consider the future meaning because they only want to
believe there is a present one." [After posting about 'simpletons'] "This is ad
hominem gibberish. Unless you can produce some facts, then we cannot
accept your testimony." "You can’t just make claims without backing them up
with some evidence (assuming you want them to be respected, entertained
and believed)." "If you can’t prove with 100% certainty that what
you’re saying is true (and I don’t think you can), then we can’t
blindly accept it." "... the fact of these prophecies aren’t getting
through to you. You explain away sound exegesis with opinions. Therefore,
it isn’t wise to continue doing honest research and spending
considerable effort in trying to convince you about the prophecy regarding
Tyre." "Are you going to argue that these people [the
Apostles] DIED terrible deaths based on some second hand information
that they couldn’t verify? Please." "The dinosaur with wings thing they found is actually
mentioned in the bible as an unclean animal." "Look at the composition difference between me and a
pile of mud. We're probably about 99% similar. Did I 'evolve' from mud?
Does that mean a few million years ago, mud started mutating and it formed
organs and limbs and walked upright? Do you know how ludicrous you
"evolutionists" sound?" "So how can they say the bible is not proof and turn
right around in the same breath and say such and such is true because Joe
blow said it was in a book?" "I think I heard that Darwin renounced the theory of
evolution on his death bed. Of course people would rather discount that
than believe in God." "NEVER NEVER NEVER has mutation caused an incease in
the survibility of a species. Mutation's hinder the species, not make it
grow into an environment." "'Soundly refuted' [creationist arguments,]
what a joke. I don't know who your trying to kid. Do you guys even fool
yourselves with this one? Those resposes would not hold water if your life
depended on it. If you actually tried to use them in the real world, they
would shatter into 1000 peices. Most of them don't even address the real
issue but is an attempt to knock down your own strawman." "Get your head out of your butts and start looking at
things from an objective manner. Darwin himself stated that his theory
could be proven wrong if some things in science could be found, they have.
What you people have done is taken the theory of evolution and applied it
to every aspect of science. You think the universe is evoling, plantets,
space, cells, animals, humans, everything, its stupid. I feel sorry for
you guys." "Dinosaurs are even mentioned in the Bible,but
nothing of extra-terrestial life forms.The way I see it, the Bible
contains all truth, and if they are not mentioned in God's word, they are
not what I would call truth." "There are three meanings to evolution( actually more
but we will stick here ). The first is religous, and faith based. This is
called organic evolution, and states that all life has descended from a
rock (spontaneous generation). This of course is a bankrupt concept. And
experiment upon experiment have proven it wrong." "The bible clearly states the world is round." "A Uniformitariunism view as Old School has stated,
is based purely on assumption, and states that slow processes which occur
today, are the key to the past. It does not allow for a catastrophy.
Peter, prophesied that this would be the last view of the world and it
would be used to deny the flood. ... Notice what Peter states in this
prophesy 'since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were
from the beginning of the creation.' They are stating that all things are
the same today, as they were yesterday, and that the present is the key to
the past." "The only issues there are to debate are highly
scientific, and all the threads will be is a bunch of idiots who don't
know what they're talking about, yourself included, issuing their verbal
diarrhea." [Replying to 'Isn't that circular logic?']
"No, I'm saying its true because Jesus said it was true." "Also, at least Christians who lie are going against
their own belief system; atheists who lie are acting CONSISTENTLY with
their own belief system." "I'm not calling you a hell spawned liar because of
your view which is exactly where your view comes from though." "I was the recipient of an exorcism at the age of 10,
after the exorcism, I was a Christian. " "Several times God has told me that the rain would
stop so that I could ride a bike home. And no matter how sever the rain
was, it always stop when God told me that it would." "quote: ------------------------ I don't know since there aren't any farms where I
live." "History will prove the JBS [John Birch Society]
was correct, after all. There is a global effort for a one world
government." "What would happen if people actually found the Ark?
Massive tourism; shrines; it would become Super-Relic and wood from the
Ark would be faked and sold all over the world. Those who did not want to
believe it real would continue to refuse -- after all, they already refuse
in the face of other evidence of the actual reality of Genesis!" "Evolution is merely a myth for adults who reject the
Gospel. It is doomed from the start." "They [Mormons] claim some ancient
civilizations here on the American continents. There is not only no
evidence for that claim, there is evidence against it! ... But they will
not admit to either weakness, because they 'know' L[atter]D[ay]S[aint]
theology is true! Why do they know it is true? Because they were taught it
is true -- or because any alternative was handled so poorly by others that
Mormonism becomes a default theology. Nevertheless, it is a lie." "Maybe I'm an exception; however, this earth doesn't
look ancient to me... Oh yes, perhaps 10 thousand years old or so but
billions of years seems totally idiotic." "I'll take God's book over my brain & think power
any day!!" "Talk about ad hominem! Hey, it's not my fault if
scientists are idiot...or arrogant enough to apply a word [fact] to
a theory without understanding the definition of said word." "Without God, the baby [David's son, killed by God
in 2
Samuel 12:13-19] wouldn't have been alive in the first place.
Killing David wouldn't have taught David a lesson (how can you learn a
lesson when you're dead?). Showing the effect his sins has on those he
loves would and did teach him a lesson. The death of your beloved child is
much more likely to change your ways than your own death." "In a perfect world, yes, homosexuals would be put to
death, and thank God that Jesus will one day rule with perfect law and
justice." [When someone replies 'That's sick!'] "About
as sick, I'll wager, as I feel everytime I see a couple of homos kissing.
The truth is offensive to many. This comes as no surprise, particularly to
a self-professed, bible-thumping, fundamentalist like myself." "Well, this may come as a surprise to you, but if it
were up to my personal opinion, I would probably choose flogging/whipping
rather than death. However, because I have come to accept Christ and His
word through an extensive set of many different kinds of evidence, I come
into this particular issue with a set of resulting presuppositions that
include the beliefe that God's word is infallible in its teaching of
doctrine, and therefore I trust God's word when it tells me the correct
punishment for homosexuality is death." [Replying to '... can you provide a reason why ... this
should be done?'] "Other than God telling me it is so? Hmmm... do
I really need another reason?" "I can understand banning trollers, spammers, the
rude, the cussing. atheists and others over prolezying their views but
there are people here being banned for opinions." "I ask the mods to delete it [a link that refutes
Christian arguments]. Not because you were wrong to post it, but if
others go there and read, they might be lead astray if they are confused
already!" "Um, if it isn't for God it's against Him. So I would
have to say considering the down right lies involved in evolutionists, and
their 'beliefs' yes, it has been planted in peoples minds hundreds of
years ago by satan. Satan is the prince of darkness, the deceiver of the
nations, a murderer, the author of lies, so if I hear anything that goes
against the Bible and what's in it, I am inclined to think satan has had
to have influenced (corrupted) peoples minds." "I have a very hard time telling my kids that what
they are learning in science is NOT true, and if we did evolve from
monkeys, then WHY are monkeys still here? Did they like being monkeys
verses being a person? Did they not have what it takes to evolve? As far
as coming from a rock or suddenly appearing from a molecule, well I for
one think it's pure ignorance to believe that, and I will not argue with
ignorance." "We know that there is a fire coming that is going to
cleanse this world of ALL unGodlyness. I was wondering, if that cleansing
fire were to go though this board and burn up any part of these posts that
was not of God, what would be left? Would there be anything at all, other
than maybe a scripture here and there?" "and by the way, I purely, simply, don't trust the
media. Maybe Fox, to a pretty fair degree, but the media is so
biased." "Ahhhhh!! Now here is where the [church of] L[atter]D[ay]S[aints]
resembles the R[oman]C[atholic]C[hurch] so much.
superstitious, hocus pocus, mumbo jumbo pagan junk of satan. so sad." "And I couldnt give a monkey's what a Mormon cultist
like Schindler thinks, especially one who contradicts his own
doctrines." "My claim is that the God of the Bible created all
men. This statement must be either affirmed or denied. I will limit this
argument to two types of people those who affirm this statement and those
who deny it. Those who deny it need to give proof that God doesn’t
exist." "Well when I was not a theist I did pretty much
whatever I wanted, ie sleep with as many women as I wanted etc. If I
stopped believing in objective moral values I would definitely start doing
that one again if I thought that any feeling of it being wrong was just an
illusion. Just being honest." "You see, life isn't just chemicals. If it were, you
could take a recently dead organism and get it to live again, simply by
jump-starting the molecules somehow. But that doesn't work, does it?
Instead, we know that life is something apart from the chemicals;
something somehow imposed on them which uses them but is not them." "Experiments of this type confirm my feeling that the
Flood had to be instituted to wipe out all of mankind due to ancient
genetic experimentation of the kind arising today that eventually polluted
virtually all the genomes of the natural order. There is a hint of this in
the words of scripture that mentioned that "Noah was perfect in his
generations", and thus was able to restart the human race to a
relatively unpolluted genetic state. This would also explain why so-called
'innocent' life had to be terminated as well." "I know exactly what S[chizophrenia] is, it is
a made up bunch of nonsense to give an excuse to psychiatrists to charge
insurance companies rather than to deal specifically with the
symptoms." "Far better evidence the Quran is false is the
inability of any Muslim to produce a photo of a massive iron gate, which
the Quran says would be destroyed by Allah, immediately before Judgement
Day. If this gate never existed, then the Quran is false. If it had been
destroyed already, then the Quran is false again because Judgement Day has
been greatly postponed. No Muslim can show on a map where that there is a
country so landlocked that one mountain pass is the only way an army can
get out." "Dino's were land animals that were created on day 6
with the rest of the land animals. They went on board the ark with Noah
and have since gone extinct. There are plenty of mentions in the bible of
'dragons' which would make sense since the word 'dinosaur' wasent invented
when the KJV was written." "Also i always wondered: back in medieval times,
knights & dragon slayers??? Y wouldn't the 'dragons' be
dinsaurs???" "Even the largest dinosaurs would have fit on the ark
as babies, and yes, I think that reference to 'dragons' in ancient times
was a direct reference to what we call dinosaurs today. I even believe
that some still exist today." "We'll see how suave and logical you are when your
burning in everlasting fire, I'm sure your so called logic may impress
Satan, maybe with enough of this so called logic (doesn't impress me at
all, amateurs never do), you won't be up for barbeque of the week in your
new brimstone village." "Also considering that I believe you are a homosexual
atheist, I would be skeptical of your viewpoints on anything regarding
being a political leader." "Since her ideas reflect her orientation, it is not
Ad Hominem." "There are many replicated peer reviewed studies
which show that the overwhelming majority of people choose theism when
they know they are dying. Keyboard false bravado notwithstanding." "Also, the Bible is the perfect Antidote to
superstition..." "How can the animals diversify from different forms when they were planted by God accor |