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Fundies Say the Darndest Things! June
2004 Edition 19 posts nominated this month!
"It is quite sad to read what atheist say here. You all seem to be
looking for someone to tell you there is no sin or hell to make yourselves
feel secure. If anyone is brainwashed it is the atheist communtiy. The
devils greatest accomplishment is getting people to beleive there is no
hell. The Bible says that anyone who doubts that whether the Bible is the
Word of God or not is a fool. So when you make statements about people being
brainwashed look no further than yourself. " "I know the truth,it is you that doesn't. I did not call you a fool
the Bible says you are, read the statement before you get your shorts in a
knot. You mention sin, I thought there wasn't any according to an
atheist.You atheist sure get you backs up when confronted with the truth.
God says He put the truth in all of mans hearts. A little bit friction there
I see." "So you're saying that you're the second sinless person whoever
lived, Lanakila? That's a lie because your indulgance in the sin of pride
and deceit are one of the most prominent features in you." "You've been nothing but nice to me, Lanakila? Reporting me every
time i insinuate that you sin like the rest of us? We ALL have pride, envy,
lust, greed, gluttony, sloth, wrath, and deceit in us. If you want to report
me for agreeing with Jesus that we all sin, then go ahead. But you're also
slamming Him which, as i understand, is also against forum rules." "Here is what God's law says about not crying out for Help if a
women is raped... [Insert Deuteronomy 22:23-29, which explains how women
raped in a city who 'did not cry for help' should be stoned along with the
attacker]... Notice it is expected that a victim should cry out! If one
does NOT cry out they are considered to be an adulterer, because they have
agreed with their situation and condition. Same goes for those who find
themselves at peace with their sinful situation and condition, they ought to
cry out! Hell is full of men and women who deeply regret and hate the fact
that at the very least they should have cried out to God!" "The scientific evidence supporting the Bible is increasing while
evidence supporting evolution is decreasing. Everything from piltdown, java
and nebraska man has been proven a hoax by paleontologists, not Christians.
Paleontologists admit that the fossil records does not support evolution.
The atheistic view of the world is crumbling. Sceinctist know it but are
affraid to admit it because they would kicked out of there circles. Since
atheist are always saying there is no God, prove it. Give me something that
proves it. I atleast have the Word of God. What does an atheist have. What
does evolutionist have except maybe a pigs tooth from nebraska." *** Crappy Bible Apologetic of the Month *** "Actually the best way to see if the bible is true or not is to read
Christ's words and see if there is one untrue statement in there. For one
man to have written words that cannot be proven false is truly a miraculous
feat." "No other man said; 'No one can come to me unless the Father who
sent me draws Him' and have that proven to be true, especially on this
forum. If you attribute Jesus's words to mere human beings, where did they
get the authority to say everything they did and it just happened to come
true? Luck?" "Unbelievers think they win a debate as long as they say the bible
is wrong with absolutely no proof. That's not only called denial, it's
called slander. They will find out who won the debate when they die." "That is why I left the secular general apologetics. There is SO
MUCH denial and God-hating that goes on there. We can have the most rational
arguments and literally show them their own contradictions but they change
the subject because the most important thing to them is winning the debate,
even if they have to be irrational to do it. It's the same as trying to
prove that reality exists to a psychotic." "Most of the atheists I have seen on this site are of the village atheist variety who are generally incapable fo following an argument for more than a few sentences and then respond in a completely irrelevant direction, not responding to my arguments at all. I once gave a simple list of arguments that I believe demonstrates the
rationality of believing in God, and this was in response to an atheists
claim that there was absolutely no reason for anyone to believe in God.
Almost every atheist responded as though I were trying to actually present
the arguments despite my repeated denials... This type of intelectual
dishonesty is why I left the secular apologetical forum, and to sum it up, I
have better things to do with my time than waste it on tossing pearls to
swine." "One argument I hear such comments in regard to is Pascals Wager,
which is actually a legitimate argument given its particular audience it is
directed to. Yet over and over I hear it said it is a falalacy, but it is
not. The biggest fallacy is that we should all follow formal rules of logic
as laid down by Bertrand Russel and his cohorts." "When you find your boyfriend and have been with him for a while,
and you decide that you do really really want to have sex with him before
you marry, just remember this, if he will sleep with you before you are
married then he would sleep with anyone." "Satan. That word got your attention! wonder why that is? could it be a secret
admiration for him? could it be a kinship?" "God is not capable of Murder! You have to be under a Law to be
capable of that!" *** Death by Irony Overdose Certificate *** "I get real evil chils when i read the Apocrapha and its not the
Holy spirit. Alot of it was written befoe the Bible but after Jesus died.
The apostles began to write thioer version of his life cos people were
making up bad legends!" "Oh, the atheists have won enough batles this decade. Give the poor,
somewhat decent christians a chance to demonstrate. I haven't been seeing a
whole lot of them in jail recently, it's the athiests who cause quite a few
of the world's problems!" "No, just plain atheists. Especially in my town. There was the one
who tried to burn down my school, the ones who got cuaght suggling drugs
(About 50 of them) another who caused a big wreck by trying to run someone
off the road, it oges on, and on, and on. (The taliban aren't athists cause
they at least belive in something, and acknoladge that there is a
god.)" "Because A) Atheists commited these acts B) These sort of events weren't so common until athiests started showing up in our town a year ago C) They want to forget the fact that our law system is based on biblical
rules, which means that they probably don't like the rules too much either,
as indicated by statments A and B." "Organizing an Aetheist event during National Prayer Day can be
comparable to those White Supremists who march on Martin Luther King Day, or
a Neo-Nazi March in Holocaust Rememberance Day. The scheduiling brings a
question as to their motives. It also denotes what kind of people they
are." "You don't seem to understand that life only comes from life all the
way back to the Author of life. Every living thing alive today has
physically been alive since the very beginning of life." "Your prudish notions not withstanding, life has everything to do
with sex. In fact, the best one-word synonym for life is 'sex.'" "Slapping a name on a phenomena only gives dull people the illusion
of perception. Call our minds what you will, consciousness (which for all I
know resides in my big toe), not my brain, is a spiritual function that
speaks of The Word." [Replying to "Do you have an example of something alive and sentient that doesn't have a brain?"] "An aomeba. And with its missing brain it decides to move away from
salinity and the light. (Kinda like you guys. Maybe you should make it your
mascot.)" [Replying to "Show me something that demonstrates these abilities (consciousness, sentience, abstractions) that doesn't have a brain."] "Paramecia will change their shape in an attempt to get around over
under an obstruction. If their shape changing proves futile, they will stop
trying, and 'decide' to swim somewhere else. Your white blood cells 'decide'
to attack foreign bodies and can get 'fooled' by naturalized citizens." "To do what those entitites do requires the power we perceive as our
abstract reasoning capabilities. Those one-celled entities simply don't do
their thinking with synapses but via touch and chemicals. But what they do
is problem solving, trial-and-error thinking all the same." "The fact that one-celled creatures act exactly as if they were
thinking conforms to the notion that neurological brains are not required
for the process we have dubbed 'thinking.' You jealously hole up in that
last bastion of human arrogance, insisting that you and only you have
abstract reasoning powers because of your lousy 4 pound glob of gray matter
when all along our brainless God and His angels thought more thoughts than
mankind can hope to remember." "The best metaphysical definition of a living thing is a freely
acting thing. Any thing that seems to exhibit free will seems to be alive.
It’s that simple. Hence, my fingernails are not alive. For their activity
is purely mechanistic. But my fingers are alive, for their activity is
unpredictable. They might continue to resign themselves to typing this
message, or give up and go play the piano, or reach out and slap you. One
can never tell, not even I, what my fingers will do next." "Based upon the above, all the examples you gave of potential life [viruses,
self-replicating molecules, etc.] would not qualify. Ditto for the
chicken hearts scientists have been keeping alive and pumping these past 60
years. Ditto for stem cells that are multiplying as we speak. However, stem
cells were alive when they were freely rearranging themselves as the unique
human being they once were (that dull humans could not yet recognize)." "Ok, I'm having this problem. I am having a lot of trouble telling
my friends that we aren't going to be here for much longer, because of the
Rapture. They keep on saying that the world won't end but we will. A little
help please!!" "Sorry you're offended...but it's not about seperation of church and
state, it's about the 1st Amendment. " "Also, this usually makes me think the bible must be true, as why
would people argue so vehemently against that which they feel confidently is
untrue? Thankyou for increasing my faith." "I say we just make it harder to get our perversion on in public.
And tax the flipping crap out of porn, and turn the internet porn free
unless you get a special box or something that releases the porn...That
special box would cost $999.99(pulled that number our of thin air) and the
money would go to help fight child sex crimes..which is caused by porn in
the first place... Then we adopt a one strike and your out law when it comes
to abusing the anti-porn law. We keep the FCC at it's current pace.
Hopefully most of these pirverts will go up into Canada or over to
Europe." "Ted Bundy didn't see anything wrong with it [porn] either.
Neither do most serial killers." "I believe that pornagraphy, while certainly not the cause of serial
murder, lays down the foundation that can eventually justify in one's mind
sick things that can include such things. Just my opinion. Most will now
post stats that seem to suggest otherwise, But I think the stats are skewed
wrongly on this subject." "It's not hard to figure out. Even I know from experience. I went
through a phase in my teens where I watched porn for awhile, and I started
to do things that I never would have done until I saw pornagraphy...It just
begins to justify things in the mind that weren't previously considered
ok." *** History 101 Honor Roll *** "Anyone who has accepted Christ as his saviour cannot be bad.I am
for Mr.Bush." [Replying to "...large meteors have nailed our planet in the *past*. If the earth is only 6 or 7 thousand years old... How could our human race survived this bombardment?"] "Don't believe everything you hear or you'll have all sorts of ideas
that are not founded on truth pop in your head." *** Non Sequitur of the Month *** "Secdonly, what about this so called nonsense I talked about people
being born as 'inanmiate objects.' Ok Shadow Fox, I'll come back to the 21st
century.This clone is still an inanmiate object, because the clone was still
not born through intercourse." [On a new Austrian law against animal cruelty] "I thought I
read somewhere that Hitler was a champion of animal rights? I have a problem
with animal enforcers driving around in patrol cars. One particular network
shows them responding with lights and sirens through residential
neghiborhoods, they carry guns, and arrest people and put them in jail. I
thought jail was for the murders, pedophiles, arsonist, rape, etc. I work
with these people every nite in a correctional setting. I believe this is
new age humanisim at work. The animals have the same rights as we do,
reducing us to nothing more than the animals and not what we were created in
HIS image." "#1, sex before marriage... its downright wicked and its down right wrong, regardless of what you say its what the Bible says... Touching(kissing,hugging,Holding hands) before marriage... according to 1 Corinthians 7:1 it is not, holding hands, kissing, hugging, necking, petting and all such things are not right before marriage? why? because God knew ahead of time that doing things of that nature cause men to have nearly uncontrollable sexual desires which can go to far, God rights this rule also becuase she is not yours to have sex with, there is averse that speaks of that but I can't get it of the top of my mind, whether its harmless kiss or holding hands, its wrong by God's law... Dating, dating is wrong, getting into a lot of dating relationships regardless of how much purity is in each one is wrong because you are making commitments out side of marriage to girls/woman who are not yours... the are exeptions in dating, like if you know a girl and you both are good friends and they are having sometihng like a valentines banquet at church... it is best to be in groups... If dating isn't the way, how do I find a wife, you don't go looking for a
wife, let God do that, you keep your purity, when the time comes God will
show her to you... God will find her for you, yoou keep pure and godly and
Gos will give her to you," "Marilyn Manson should have been taken care of a long time ago. It
is a terrible shame that society tolerates that freak." "What I mean is you take Marilyn Manson tie him to a tree or take
him to the city square. You then strip his cloths off and uncoil the whip.
You procede to whip him just like they did in the Old School. That is what I
mean by 'taken care of'. I must also add that I would take great pleasure in
whipping that freak." "Actually I am neither [a sexual sadist nor an ordinary one].
I am simply a man that likes law and order. The act of stripping them of
their cloths is to humiliate them. As for the whip; you would be suprised
how effective the whip truly is on deviant behavior." "Cheap talk coming from a liberal. Did I scare you Brimeshack? You
sound frightened Brimshack. As for law and order that is something you would
know nothing about; so shut your ignorant mouth." "I feel the same Brimeshack. Liberals are the greatest cowards in
the world so what do I have to worry about. In the end you are still a loser
Brimshack." "Liberals have no clue when it comes to discipline." "If I had a daughter [who had sex before marriage] I would
not stone her, but she would think she was going to die when I got through
with the razor strap." "Actually 'think she was going to die' is a figure of speech, but
you get the message." "No destiny I am not joking or doing this for shock value." "I was like you once, but no longer." "No [I wasn't level-headed]: I was at one time just like you
a weak wimp." "Yes, the innocent could be abused by that system [under which
divorce is outlawed], but they deserve it if they take a risk as bad as
marriage full well knowing what can,(and probably will) happen. The naqtion
would greatly benefit from this, but I know it'll never happen." "but, if people were smarter and dated and got to know the person
for a long time, the deception could not be kept up for ever. The facade
would weaken and they would both see the real person and not a mask of
deception. People are just stupid about these things. You can't cure
stupid." "If you will do a scholarly, unbiased investigation you will
determin that the story I mentioned about David a Goliath is not mythology
but is solid fact backed up by the accuracy of the Jewish scribes... i
actually happened and can be proven. In this day and age of mass
information, there is no reason to sit around with your head in a hole
believing actual myths that others have told you about the Bible being
mythology. If you don't believe in the concept of good and evil then do you
believe in right and wrong? This is nothing more a good example relative
humanism. Talk about being a sheep. Who mentioned organized religion? Don't
be a sheep. Wake up! True Christanity is not organized religeon. It is a
relationship with the living God who made you." "What is this thing with you and organized religon? You keep
referring back to it when no one brings it up. Did someone drop you in the
baptistry when you were a child or did they lock the Sunday School room so
you could not come in because you were eating peanuts and throwing the
shells on the floor? To answer your question above the story is from the
Bible and it has notheing to do with organized religon. As I mentioned
before, true Christanity is not a religon. It is a relationship with the
living God... Now you know something you never knew before. Ever the
wiser." "The Americans also defeated the greatest army in the world at that
time, the British army, with a bunch of rag-tag volunteer soldiers with no
shoes, few weapons and out numbered. How could that possiblyhappen??? The
greatest army in the world! God interviened. Got any other explanations? He
wanted the United States to exist and that is why we have God mentioned in
our Declaration of Independence, God in our constitution, God mentioned
before our Supreme Court presides, God on our money, prayer to him before
each day that our congress conviens and the President lays his hand on the
Bible and swears to God when he is sworn into the office. We have some weird
human creatures slithering around but as a whole, but the people of the
United States believe in the God of the Bible. Sorry, you seem to me in the
minority. Oh, one more thing, 99.99% of Americans eat meat because God says
it is OK to do so." "Just wondering what everyone thinks about what's going on with the
gasoline in Louisiana. Below is the link [Link]
to the ABC story of what happened. So far, 500 gas stations affected in
south Louisiana and Florida, with too much sulfur in the gas. THEY DON'T
KNOW HOW IT HAPPENED. It causes the gas gauge to malfunction, which then has
to be replaced. Was it maybe just a 'screw up' by Shell? If so, that's a
heck of a lot of gas that's messed up now. Or is this somehow terrorist
related?" "I love guys like you. What a treat it is to converse with someone of your closed, arrogant, simple, intelligence. You are like the man who wanders around all his life with a brown paper bag over his head... Since I know him personally , I have to conclude your data is the dribble. What do you know that proves my data is the dribble? Have you experience anything that puts proof behind your 'scientific facts'. No, they are just a bunch of theories backed up by a bunch of neo-scientific evidence like the age of the rocks which is based on circular reasoning... You will believe in God someday though. You will be standing in front of him... I know for absolute sure, proof positive what is there and from your perspective it is really scary!!! You are not going to like it at all. That is what you are running from no matter what you say. P.S I wonder why the greatest army in the world lost to a bunch of
shoeless, out numbered, untrained rag tag American volunteer soldiers. Must
have been evolution that caused it." "Morally speaking, he [an atheist friend] was one of the most
naturally perfect people i had ever known. He didn't suffer from
temptations, bitterness, hatred for people, lust or any of the struggles
that believers struggle with.... You see, Satan will only cause temptations
and spiritual attacks on those who are in the battle seeking the truth and
attempting to live according to God's will. he (satan) allready has the
atheist so he will let him slide through life with the least amount of
friction or hardships, untill he snatches him away at the end that is." "Nope I personally believe aliens (as in what everyone confesses in seeing) are indeed demons. Perfect trickery to use to confuse and confound people. Lucifer was the angel of light before he fell. Aliens constantly have referenced to their spacecrafts as lights in the sky, or blinding lights, or so on and so on. Also the composite sketches of aliens can easily be be described as demonesque. Numerous cultish beliefs have arisen from the beliefs of aliens and also the worship of aliens. What perfect way to make people stray away from God. What perfect way to send a bunch a people in mass (that mass suicide cult) to hell. Seems like an awesome way of making people confused. Also if you want to know the Bible speaks that the spiritual realm is
more real then the hand that is on your mouse. The spiritual realm can
easily affect this physical realm. So demons would be able to create images
of stars in the sky(remember the Bible symbolically refers to the fall of
Lucifer and his demons as falling stars) that move, lights moving in the
sky. Demons are not limited to running around playing upon our minds. Oh no.
They are big time in the deception business. So to me it is not a
joke." "...you have to accept a Satan and his minions capable of deceiving
in incredible ways, even to the oint a human mind cannot understand. You
have to accept there is a spiritual realm that must be able to manipulate
whatever you see around you without you seeing it.... So to put it concisely
I expect no one in here to even begin to accept this. I expect most to think
I'm kokoo and that is fine with me because I am comfortable in my faith. But
this is what I believ and this is how I can rationally(faith based rationale
though) place it before you." "Many of this can sound far fetched to our society but that is
because we have been built up to deny the supernatural. Its a hoax or an
elaborate trick we say. And that is why demonic activity is so much more
below the radar in developed countries. Go on a mission trip to some third
world country and prepare to get an education about how obvious the works of
demons are in countries that are open to superstition and such much more
then we." "And indeed aliens may very well be the delusions of drunkards and drugs. But that brings up another things. There is a reason why alcoholic drinks are also called spirits and the reason why no one should get high. The delusions you see when high or tripping out are in fact demons being allowed to play on your mind to a higher degree. And yes that is demons fooling around with your chemical imbalances. Heh. Just realized I opened another can of worms. wink" "Right now it is only the sodomites who are on a crusade to destroy
the nation and drag down morality. Adultery and Fornication do not have
governmental acceptance, there is not an active crusade for adulterers and
fornicators to get societal and governmental acceptance of their perversion.
The sodomites are in fact leading the charge. You don't see Adultery and
Fornication recruitment lesson plans in public schools. All you see is
sodomites pushing their immorality on society." "LOL, another Bible Hater comes out of the wood work with the same
misquoteing and twisting of verses that all skeptics/atheists use.
Bible-Haters/Atheists/Skeptics hate being told about sin. They want to
silence anyone who speaks out against sin (as the Bible Commands) so they
attempt to twist to Bible to accomplish this." "There is Not a single contradiction. The passages are talking about
two seperate things. Of course Bible-Haters/Skeptics/Atheists can't/don't
want to see that." *** "Our Next Republican Attorney General" Nomination *** "Out of Wedlock Sex would be Fornication, both of you would be
committing a Capital Crime. The penality for Blasphemy is death. The list of
moral laws is rather extensive, many of those are however Capital Crimes as
well. Yes witchcraft would also be a capital crime." "Skeptics/Atheists/Perverts falsely assume that the majority of
people agree with their perversions." "I Guess it is easy to bring up the Taliban boogeyman. (Trademark of
leftists.) Let me ask, Were our Founders Taliban? They codified Sodomy and
Adultery as Capital Crimes. While not Capital Offenses, Blasphemy,
Pornography and Fornication were illegal." "Sexual Perversion destroys the society around it. You destroy the
rights of all people by engaging in perversion then seeking to normalize and
gain acceptance of your deviancy. Sodomites are not the only ones guilty of
this however." "So you retreat to leftist jamming propaganda now? Very mature of
you. I often wonder Why do you feminists want to silence everyone? Then I
remember that emotional Tantrums are the trademark of radical feminism.
Perhaps 'The Goddess' told you to act like a 2 year old. I do wonder Where
that 'tolerance' that you hold so dear has gone?" "Homosexuality is a perversion and an abomination. It is an
intolerable evil. I am equally against ALL sexual perversion. (By the way,
There is no such thing as Homophobia. That is an invention of
leftists/marxists in their never ending jamming crusade.)" "I am not imagining any Marxist Conspiracy, it is very real." "Professionals who are Marxists intent on destroying the family. I
am sure some day the psychology profession is going to attempt to define
Christianity as a mental disorder (The main reason the Communists wanted
Control of the 'Mental Health' profession.)" "God lays out for us precisely what his laws and moral standards for
us are. He tells us what is right and what is wrong. His model for living is
the only right one. When he returns he is going to set everything right, and
it isn't going to be a Democracy." [Replying to "A large number of children are receiving a poor
education, possess very bad manners, and have little respect for
others"] "Pop-Culture, Single Parent Households, A Lack of
Morality, and libertine attitudes are to blame for that. The sodomite
households multiple the problems above. Studies have shown that children
raised in sodomite households are more likely to experience a host of
problems... A return to Biblical Morality is the answer to our kids
problems, not perverting them even more than they already are." "When your deviance keeps me from using the Bible to criticize your
behavior then you have taken away my civil rights. As of yet, in this
country it hasn't happened. But people like you would like nothing better.
When the thought police start telling me what I can say or not say then
you've got a problem with me and I will use any manner possible to fight
that. At that point it is no longer a republic it is a dictatorship." "I am a college graduate and although I received critical thinking
instruction from both of my parents, who were teachers, before I went to
school, while there I observed many kids who did not have the same. Kids are
vehicles of learning with mush for brains. Highly impressionable. If they
don't have the proper training at home, many will latch on to radical ideas
from college professors, because most kids are natuarally rebellious to some
extent at that age. Usually intellectual maturation doesn't occur before
college, it happens aftwerwards." "The last time I looked my country mentioned 'the year of our Lord'
in its Constitution. I don't recall muslims ever considering Allah their
Lord. So in that case it doesn't matter what in the hell some muslims
think." "I attending a major university now and let me tell you the
brainwashing is almost universal. Clubs/activities include how to
crossdress, speakers are almost universally anti-US, white, male, hetro,
Christian and are rarely criticized for these views." "But you are NOT exposed to 'different things' to anywhere near the
same degree on campus. The left-leaning philosophy is encouraged and
promoted. Womans studies by and large is an anti-male department there is no
other program to balance it. Ive seen courses teaching witchcraft, communism
etc. I had taken a search in anthropology class that explained how religious
beliefs were developed to protect the people, not God inspired, and thus was
bebunking religion." "ABORTION IS JUST MORALLY AND ETHICALLY WRONG AND I COMPLETELY AND
TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH IT!!!!!! God Bless - maybe He can do something about
people who are for it" *** Alternate Bizarro Universe Award *** "The UN should not force this brutal law [a resolution supporting
reproductive rights] into effect... By instituting global infanticide we
are making worse the coming depopulation crisis." "'>about drug resistant bugs,' The toleration and even promotion of fornication can have disastrous effects, even on non-fornicators. Those who fornicate contract diseases. Sodomists are particularly likely to contract diseases. The result is that our heroic medical services throw antibiotics at the diseases. The result of this is to kill off the strains of pathogens which are suseptible to the antibiotics. That leaves alive the rare resistant pathogens, which will then procede to multiply and become common pathogens. Persons who do not fornicate may become the recipient of some of these pathogens, but then find out that the strain is resistant to the drugs available. God is not mocked. Whatsoever a man sows, that he shall also reap. The
Lord has been very gracious to us, allowing our scientists to discover and
develop wonderful antibiotics. During the Civil War, with no antibiotics, a
bullet in the gut meant death from infection. How can we be so foolish as to
squander and dispise the grace of God and destroy our wonder drug
antibiotics by promoting sin." [To a married straight guy] "God has nothing to do with this
outside of the fact that He created all the diseases and the diseased. Who
contracts a disease is up to the diseased. If you for example continue to
swim in the feces within an other man's rectum then you quite possibly will
contract either HIV/AIDS, syphilis, Gonorrhea or a host of other STDs so
prevalent within your perverted community. God won't be the one who gave it
to you rather you will be the one, through rebellion, sin and perversion who
would bring this plague upon yourself... it would go away quickly or be of
such small significance as to be unnoticeable to most people. HIV/AIDS is a
homosexual disease. Just because a few deviant heterosexuals have contracted
it doesn't give credence to your BS propaganda... you were beginning to make
an arse of yourself again." "Christians respect the way men and women were created and for what
purpose they were created. Non- Christians don't know why men and women were
created nor for what purpose they were created, so they invent their
own." "No, people don't know what to do with that strange organ dangling
between their legs except to insert it into the nearest person or object
which gives them pleasure. That's the whole point of my post! Respect and
love have nothing to do with it, only sensations. That's why there are so
many divorces in this country because people no longer have use for their
partners when their needs aren't being satisfied. The bottom line is that
people do NOT know why marriage should be restricted to only a man and a
woman!" "If man did what God told him to do there would be NO AIDS,
homosexuality, disease, etc. That's the point! But, like children,
unbelievers don't want to take responsiblity for their actions. They blame
God and everybody else, ANYONE but themselves. They ignore His warnings bout
sex, disease, pride, and then wonder why God punishes us! Do you even
think?" "God has shown us repeatedly what happens when we go against His
design. All sex except between two virgins of the opposite sex in a
committed relationship, leads to disease and pain." "I don't believe in Bigfoot either, but there's more evidence for it
than there is for evolution." "Wow, now these must be the new atheists. I think we're up to like
1000 atheists on these boards now. ugh. People who are stupid intentionally
deserve the bad effects of their stupidity. If a woman marries a man who
beats her before the marriage, marries him then yes." "I only believe that the people stupid enough to marry someone they
know is an abuser, etc, deserve what will follow, ones that are smart don't
deserve it, and will probably be smart enough to leave in those
circumstances. Understand me now? Good." "I don't even think you understand what I'm saying. women in other
countries put into abusive marriages don't deserve it, the ones who have
free will to marry, and are stupid, intentionally, do. you disagree, so
what, DEAL." "I don't know how to hammer this point any clearer. Its just like I
also beleive that if someone intentionally jumps off a mountain knowing what
will happen to them, they deserve the consequences. Sometimes, people are
just asking for it." "I also do not have animosity to atheists, just to the religion,
which is harmful and evil, and illogical, and contains many errors, poor
ideas, and fallacys, I'm sorry I mistook you for one." "I'm not talking out of two sides of my mouth. I just beleive that
if the person wants something bad, they deserve it, if they want something
good, they deserve it. I would like divorce outlawed to reduce the stupid
peoples marriage decisions that end in divorce. Make the penalty high
enough, and the problem will be solved." *** "Neener Neener Boo Boo" Prize *** "Hope you guys wake up tonight with the most hidious looking demon
in the pack lying next to you grinning. Hope you wee wee in your pants
too" "If scareing the heck out of you will help you understand that there
is a real spiritual realm then I'm all for you getting the wee wee scared
out of you! Grace and mercy can come in the weirdest ways. And believe it or
not God has a tremendous sense of humor." "If you are not open to the supernatural existing, and that the evidence may not be what you want, then you are closeminded, contradicting that you are 'openminded'... I will give you one thing though, you are correct when you say that I should not use the word 'belief' when referring to God... God's existance is a fact... [Replying to 'I am an honest atheist.'] an oxymoron from a moron. " "What I'm saying is that the supernatural(referring to all things
supernatural) is a fact, and there are many people who beleive in the
supernatural because they experiance it... you have no credibilty trying to
show these supernatural thingfs false, becuase you have no experiances with
the supernatural, you have never seen what others have, you aren't
openminded to its existance(atheists are NOT 'freethinkers' they are bound
in fantasy and their own comfort) and you have no ability to change reality
or prove something that is real to not be real. You are a ***** who thinks
he has authority to say what exists or does not exist. You are like the
archie bunker of atheism. And you're bitter too." "You're in the wrong territory to say that the burden of proof is on christians(me, us). You are making a claim that God doesn't exist when I have proof He does. You are making the claim to me, not vise versa... I could never convince you of the obvious existance of God, you aren't open to the idea. Now, post the evidence or proof of God not existing, or shut your moronic mouth. As for the reality hitting me, it hit a long time ago. The site [with
ex-Christians posting] you gave me only showed me where morons hang out. I'm
not going through confusion, but athesits are eternally twisted. No
absolutes, no way, no path, no purpose, no meaning, no truth, no happiness,
no love, no chance." "Atheists are basically assumers, and have no clue. They are like
mass produced robots. 'freethinkers' is their oxymoron name... Claiming that
God doesn't exist, and providing no evidence for such a moronic claim is
just laughable. Atheists are not freethinkers, or openminded, they lied
through their teeth with that joke. They will reject God until death. They
refuse to listen to evidence of what they don't like. Atheists hate
'religion', but, from an atheist veiwpoint, there is no reason to. Its all
worthless, why even try to enjoy this life? Its all worthless anyway... All
these things plus, the fallacys, logical inconsistencies, contradiction of
reality, baseless assumtions, etc, of atheism just prove it to be the pile
of crap that it is." "I don't think the viewers of Fox news hold misperceptions about
Iraq and Terrorism. I think that they are among the best informed viewers
out there. It is the liberal media which sleeps on many of those stories
because if they did followup on them, it would lend credence to the actions
that Bush is taking." *** Topic of the Month, a.k.a. "AMTRAK Collision of a Thread" Award *** [Read it and weep. Posters at the Christianity.com boards weigh in on the evil of women wearing bikinis.] "This is a subject everyone is too afraid to talk about. But I think
is wrong for christian woman to wear those bikini bathing suits. I think
they invented them to attract more man to the beach and use it as an excuse
to call it bathing suits and look at the women's body parts. Short beach
pants would do just fine but some women prefer to be walking around on
panties and bra.How can woman walk around while their vagina shape and size
is been shown to everyone at the beach. Sorry to be so graphic but I want
you all to get my point. There is no difference between that and regular
underwear. But hey, is ok if you are at the beach or pool blah ,blah blah,
'Hypocrites!' Why be tempted, I don't care how christian you are but if you
see a woman wearing a bathing suit you look down at her vagina part and your
mind starts rolling with sexual thoughs Matthew 5: 27"You have heard
that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.'[5] 28 But I tell you that anyone
who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in
his heart. God wants us to cover our body no matter where you at. If God
wanted us to just barely cover our private parts then why he gave Adam and
Eve animal skin to cover their bodies instead of leaves.... The location
were you wear your clothing doesn't make it right and acceptable. Those type
of clothing reveals your body shape with great detail. Follow this rule,
Look at your self in the mirrow and ask your self: ' Would I wear this to go
to church?' If your answer is no than don't wear it. Don't wear clothing
that might tempt other man to lust. If is too tight or too short is
unacceptable. Yes I speak mainly towards woman's clothing because: 1. Man's
clothing (real man) is not tight or short 2. God didn't make our bodies
sexually beautiful to look at." "I know many 'Christian' females that dress certain way outside the
church. (i.e. tight jeans, little open blouses, shorts that are too short ,
skirts that are very short...) Then they dress differently when they go to
church service. They don't realize that they are been hypocrites. The same
way you dress to church is the same way you should dress when you out of
church. (yes, even if you wear an Astronaut suit to church)" "Beach shorts for swimming for both male and females do exist. They
are all over the internet surf shops. They are neither as pretty,
comfortable or popular but who cares, we are christians and we don't follow
culture or fashion but we follow Christ So STOP! putting more excuses and
thinking of comfort , fashion, styles,colors and blah, blah, blah. God is a
God of freedom, meaning he lets us make our own choices, but that does not
mean all our choices please him because then this world would be perfect
place. We must sacrifice some of our given freedom and obey God ways because
that is what He wants us to do." "Beachwear? What a poor excuse. Did woman had beachwear back in the
bible days? Bikinis? God ways does not change with culture and culture is
made up of man's ideas. You are just another victim that was made believe
thru culture that it is ok to barely cover your self. Are the man at the
beach any different from the one's on the street? You provoke man to look at
you in lustful ways and sin. The word of God talks about not making others
sin." "Oh boy. Is hot at the beach!!! Another poor excuse. Who cares about
those who loose their souls is just what you saying...Is hot at the beach?
Blame it on the sun now? Well, is it better to burn in hell or at the
beach?" "Think peolple think' look at all the avenues and don't have such a
simple mind. That little effort can save that persons soul (and yours), How
about if Christ comes the second after the person next to you saw you on a
bathing suit and lusted." "Why not go back further than that [Victorian times]?
Technically Israel could have worn skimpy clothes but they didn't. There was
no law against it other than the fact that were not to learn the ways of the
nations that surrounded them." "Jesus encountered a ‘nudist’ [the Legion demoniac]
during his travels. Before he cast the spirit out of the man, the man was
naked. Funny how AFTER the spirits were cast out, verse 35 says that the man
was ‘CLOTHED and in his right mind’. Maybe no one else will see the
significance of this statement, but I sure do. There’s nothing modest
about nudity or bikinis either. If it didn't happen yesterday, it could
happen today. Look for it!" "Don't feel to bad, there are still decent respectable people out there. In Ontario some women wanted to go topless everywhere and the decent people went against it and it wasn't allowed except on some beaches.... All the men I talked to said that the women who wanted to go topless were the ones who should least be topless. Some people are just so totally selfish and devoid of morals.... When my wife goes to the beach or the public pool she wears a bathing
suite with a skirt thing. My wife has large breasts and some men may stare
at her for that reason but my wife has taken resposibility in dressing
properly so if a man stares it truly is his problem and not my wifes." "you can argue with Brave or you can argue with the Bible and what it says.it says for us women to be modest in our outfits-period. it doesnt say what outfit to wear ,just be modest. Is it so hard for some of yall to figure that out? Maybe some of you dont WANT the truth-thats why you are getting all hot and bothered about it.... my 13 yr. old son has more sense than some of you. He said why would a
lady walk around on the beach with her butt hanging out? he said it looks
ridiculous. Now what do some of you say to that - kids some times get it
before the grown ups- that says a lot. Dont defend sin and call your self a
Christian." *** Anthropology 101 Honor Roll *** "The North American culture is full of pornography and look at the
divorce rate and STD problems. I couldn't imagine a culture were teen boys
and men could walk past topless or naked women and say 'that is normal' 'no
big deal' or not think anything of it at all." "Was the person that invented those sports thinking about what
pleases God? or Was the person that invented those outfits or uniform
thinking of what pleases God? No! They were thinking about style, fashion
and comfort. Sports or water sports can be played with different clothing,
maybe not as comfortable but still possible, but again they are not thinking
about people lusting, or holyness or God. They more thinking about winning
and comfort. What's first? Salvation or Winning the game or even playing the
game. If the sports requires you to wear bathing suits kind of clothing or
anything that shows too much skin making it provocative don't play it. Yes I
said DON"T PLAY IT!!! All you have given me are excuses to justify the
outfits. The word of God doesn't contradicts itself or make exception about
this. You have a hard time accepting it because you have lived thinking like
this for a while, but if you really want to follow Christ, follow Him all
the way and not half way. I answer you a few post back (the ones that
matters) but you are the one not reading them. I live in Puerto Rico and we
have all the water sports you have @ the main land (P.R. U.S. Territory) We
are not some third world country were we don't have water sports, but to me
doesn't make a difference if I live close to the beach to understand your
point. You asked: Should gymnasts wear spacesuits? You really sound smart
asking this...sad.Man made sports = culture doesn't justify wearing whatever
you want. Please stop making excuses. Please find me in the Bible were it
says is ok to show lots of skin. Where does God make the exception ? You
have indeed shamed yourself. " "Stop justifying your way of clothing yourself to the beach with
today's sports, culture, location and blah, blah, blah. Again and again God
does not make exceptions and the word of God does not contradicts it self.
We all can see how guilty this subject is making you. Jesus can still
forgive you for not thinking about others that may have lusted because of
you. When you are at your judgement day and you are asked why you provoke
others to lust by what you wore, are you going to answer with?: Well the
sport require me to wear it. A man made sport (culture) Excuses." "If you are a Christian woman, there should be some degree of modesty, the same as if you are a Christian man. You would not want to cause another to stumble. What if you are a Christian woman, you're proud of your body, and wear a skimpy bikini to the beach. And a young Christian (young as in he just came to Christ) sees you and goes home and masterbates, thinking about you in that skimpy bikini. Have you caused him to sin? Perhaps you did not participate directly in his sin, i.e. you were not there actually having intercourse with him. But the picture in his mind is of you in that bikini. And as a result of his self sexual gratification he stumbles and loses his faith because he thought God had delivered him from his sin, now he feels shame, remorse, guilt, and he feels like a pervert. So he leaves the church. How can he go to the same church with you after
what he has done?" "It causes fellow Christians to lust. Thus, by wearing a bikini, you
are tempting a man to sin, thus it is wrong." "And the light shineth in the darkness, and the darkness comprehended it not. ~John 1:5~ Alright, look, yes by living they [women] cause men to lust, but
they ADD TO THE CAUSE by wearing bikinis. Therefore it is wrong." "I do not need sex to live. God strike me down with lightning if I
ever have sex, married or not married. Lust is evil. Period. This discussion
on lust should be over." "Know why I am extremely conservative? Because I go by what the
Bible says, not by what my mind says. My Carnal mind." "Yes, Lust is evil inside marriage. Lust is evil. And no, I am not
saying just because something is natural it is evil, but you are suggesting
that just because something is natural it is NOT evil, and I am ripping your
idea into pieces because that idea deserves to burn forever. Married couples
do not lust after one another they love." "Well, lust was the only thing I was talking about. And it was in
response to a statement regarding lust. I should've clarified: I am talking
about the desires of the human nature shown to be evil, like lust. Which
some people don't choose to agree are evil. Why? Because they serve the
devil." "Except a woman wearing a bikini willmake 97 percent of all men
around her lust. If it's obvious they're going to lust, shouldn't wear
it." "oh and by the way....if your wearing a bikini just because 'its hot
at the beach'.....why dont you go jump in the water? THATS WHAT ITS THERE
FOR! hello!" "Pretty soon, nakedness would be the norm and bikinis will be
'modest' - as long as it's at the beach. This is the rate we are going. I
wonder what will happen when nakedness isn't enough?" "A woman who dresses revealing, immodest or just plain like a ho in
my opinion is not saved. Jesus said we would know a tree by it's
fruit." "Regarding nuking mecca it is a bad idea. Firstly no one can destroy
mecca since it is guarded by angles." "I tell you what. I, for one, can't wait until Jesus comes back to
rule with a rod of iron for 1000 years as King of Kings, seated on the
throne of David. I just can't wait. He will be a just and righteous King and
every knee will and shall bow. No more man made laws. No more political
correctness. No more sickos reinventing everything to suit their own selfish
purposes. No more New Age teachings, no more Buddhist beads, no more Quran,
no more wiccans, no more communists, no more war lords, no more drug lords,
no more terrorists, no more murderers, adulterers, sexual perverts. No more
atheists, no more ACLU, no more baby killers. No more wicked judges and
legislators. The list of perversions, sorceries, idolatries, corrupt
governments, and oppressions will be over. Wickedness will be a thing of the
past for 1000 years. No more griping over the posting of the 10C in public
places. It will really be 'In God We Trust.' What a wonderful time that will
be. No more every person doing what is just in their own eyes. No more
propaganda. It will just following the letter of the law, of Jesus' law. I
can't wait. I can't wait for the Theocracy of Jesus. Even so, Come, Lord
Jesus." [Replying to "Science can do nothing with the theory of
intelligent design because it makes no predictions."] "If the
Intelligent Designer predicted a certain event, and the event happened, we
would have verification rather than falsification. 'Let there be light.'
(Genesis 1) And the Big Bang occurred. Science verifies the Big Bang, the
unleashing of light throughout the early universe. Then why not deduce an
Intelligent Designer?" *** Pot and Kettle Prize *** "You are joking right, quath is a unregerated none beleiver, his
argument has no vality with me what so ever, he simple does not know what he
is talking, and has no right to opinions about things he can not understand.
In short I could care less what Quath thinks." "Does anyone else get the feeling of a spiritual arrogence here? I
think the bible says, that a man who thinks himself wise will be shown to be
a fool. Or somethig like that." "You are a very arrogent person, I am not worried about you, and I
am not trying to beat you. I do not have to make you look like a bad guy,
you sir will do that all by yourself." [Derailing a thread on a support forum] "Its no joke!
Atheists are not prepared to give advice on how to live one's life." [Replying to "Any person who has lived can give advice on
life"] "Yeah,... is that right? As soon, as atheists start
telling other atheists how to live their life they are basically
establishing and perpetuating a religion. 'This is my ideology, and it would
be in your best interest to follow it.'" "rofl.. What external source does an athiest actually have to give
advice on? Im befuddled." *** "Won't Anyone Please Think of the Kittens?!" Award *** "atheist's preoccupation with masturbation... I have seen
enough of a commonality of responses on this forum to be genuinely
curious.... Do folks become atheists to justify self gratification? or is it
just a by-product?" [After the thread is moved to the junk forum] "Well, I'll
be...this is not considered serious enough for GRD [General Religious
Discussions]? I am confused..." [Replying to "How old are you?"] "mid-thirties -
and I have seen references to the act in so many threads that there started
to seem to be a correlation, so I thought I would start a discussion to (no
pun) flesh it out, but, oh well... Try a thread search just on the word
masturbate, none of the derivations... Showing results 1 to 40 of 338
...again, interesting..." "Nothing is wrong with them [interracial marriages]. God
doesn't look at our color or care who we are with. We are all brothers and
sisters in Christ, and as long as both of the people are Christian (not
unequally yoked) then it's fine." "'unequally yolked' is going out or being married with a person who
isn't CHristian. It is wrong because the Word of God speaks against it. Why?
it is a HUGE door open for Satan. Just as it is easy to convert or convince
someone to Christianity, it is easy to convert someone out. It has been
researched and studied before that most relationships that are unequally
yolked(study performed with Christians) The results have shown that most
Christians left the church or even converted into the spouse's or partner's
religion. The devil is smart. He will try to get you any way he can. Don't
let it happen to you." "it says if the word of Christ is told to every living being the end
of our world will come (i'm sorry...don't remember the verse) so let's
become missionary's " "Good parents bring their children up with rules, with
responsibility, and with a work ethic. Adults who are given the proper
raising, will NEVER turn gay they will NEVER go out and kill people, they
will be happy productive people. A person CHOOSES to be gay, he isnt born
with it, because he is confused about the natural order of things....
Animals are stupid, they dont know any better. People (most) are not, we DO
know better. Quit protectin these people by sayin that as long as it doesn't
affect you, you dont care. That is laziness. Its just like the abortionists
who say they have a choice. They did have a choice, its called have sex. Sex
is intended to make babies, if they didn't want one they wouldnt have done
it. Now they have a responsibility, and of course they are lazy and they
take the unmoral way out of it. I admit sometimes I wonder why is being gay
wrong, why should I care, they aren't hurting anybody. If you arent
christian you probably don't care." "lol arguing with u bastards is like trying to make Joseph Stalin a
capitalist. Rather than try to explain why his system is better (and thus
get an even better understanding of how his own government works) he chooses
to instead send the KGB, kidnap you and throw you into syberia. That is the
reason the Soviet Union fell." "Do you think I believe in what I believe simply because I'm told by
other people? No human has ever influenced what I believe. God exists.. I
know this, but God is too wise to allow me to present evidence for it." "The Arabs have chosen satan as their god and I pray and hope that
some will understand the truth of Yeshua before God lays them waste. Sounds
harsh? It's reality." *** Conspiracy Theory of the Month *** "Hillary will be the [Democrat] V.P. candidate... I
knew it, I knew it! I've been saying it all along that the Hilldabeast will
force her way onto the ticket. I also maintain that if that is the case,
sKerry will 'mysteriously' die in office and the Hillary will become
president. I am absolutely convinced that both Clintons have made a pact
with the devil for all of this to come about." "Does ANYBODY see what's happening?!?!? Someone recently posted a
thread basically saying the Muslims are going to use our own laws against us
and 'assimilate' the U.S. from a Christian nation to a Muslim one....just
look at Europe!" "Allah is a demon. All who are in the muslim faith are serving a
demon. They have major strongholds in their minds and this religion is
designed to keep them from the true gospel just like other religions. That's
why it is a national religion; so children will grow up under it and be held
powerfully in its grip. Satan wants the nations." *** Flamebait of the Month *** "When I was in Ireland this year it was quite clear that the Northern Irish are not fans of President Bush. This seems to stem more from the fact that President Bush and Prime Minister Blair are friends who are working together more than anything else. Conversely, I did not hear anywhere near as much negative about President
Bush in Scotland. So, the conquered drunks don't like our president and the
unconquered, non-terrorist Scots do. Druken terrorist types vs proud
defenders. I think we have a commonality of feelings here." "My, my, my, what a contraversu I seem to have created. Sorry to have not gotten back to this thread, I had kind of forgotten about it... No! There will be no apologies. I had an encounter with a drunken Irishman with whom I bantered and we became buds by the end of the night. The 'drunken Irish' moniker is certainly not one that I made up but rather an old and well versed one that I used to my literary advantage. Of course I don't believe all Irish are drunkards. If you are Irish, not a drunkard and offended by my reiterating a stigma that has been attributed to the Irish for centuries then you are too thin skinned to debate on an open forum.... Ireland has had terrorists of Irish descent for decades, so there is
nothing there that is incorrect. If all Irish were as whiney as those who
are demanding an apology and crying to the moderators I would not support
Northern Irelands cause in becoming independant of British rule. Thank God
the Irish are not what is depicted on this thread."
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