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Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
November 2003 Edition
"I can't believe no one has mentioned this yet. It
specifically states that God sent angels to help build the ark [for Noah]
and supply lumber. It says they worked over night or something." "Loves the sinner yet hates the sin. I do not know
that that captures the Biblical teaching. Perhaps: Loves and hates the
sinner, hates the sin." "I would say that love coexisting with hate does not
violate the law of non-contradiction, any more than the Trinity doctrine
does. He loves them in one way and hates them in another. It is obviously
possible to love and hate concurrantly, as we are supposed to." "Not at all, the Bible clearly teaches God's hate. He
owes no creation love or mercy" "I don't see how one can prove evolution, no one was
there." *** 'Most Edumacated Creationist' Trophy *** "I know why I don't believe it. I have reasons... - I
think the universe is way to complex to have to come from single cell
organisms." [Replying to 'you would not even consider the possibility of an old earth'] "I would -- if the Bible taught it." "Your opinion means nothing when it's contrary to the
facts." "... you and Morton refuse to treat Scripture as
supremely authoritative. That is the key issue. By going down your lines,
I would be implicitly abandoning biblical authority and accepting the
supremacy of autonomous human reasoning." "I refuse to play the game by the materialistic rules
that you and Morton have swallowed. There is no point wasting time over
geological minutiae when your whole framework is up the creek." "genesis is not a science book, it is a history
book... If this conflicts with theories... then it is those human attempts
which are wrong, not the ones revealed to us by a gracious God. Evolution
is a dumb idea. One pundit mused that it takes a great deal of higher
indoctrination to overcome common sense." *** 'Back to the Future' Prize *** "there are too many babies in this world that are put
in danger because of the fact that the parents are not even double the age
of the child." "I still disagree with the fact that its genetic...
It doesn't make sense that your sexual orinatation could be determined by
lil proteins floting around in my cells." "OMG.. You people really don't know much about
religion these days. God made the universe. The mixing of chemicals? What
the heck are you talking about? You actually think chemicals made us and
the world, the universe, the creatures, all the order and design that God
has made?! READ GENESIS FROM THE BIBLE! WoW.. Wasnt that hard!" "The pope, remember, has infallibility... The pope
says no abortion. I totally agree with him. If he was wrong, then you are
saying that God, the Holy Spirit, the third person of the Blessed Trinity,
had lied and proclaimed a wrong." "HeLLo?!? Your saying the Bible is wrong? Adam was
made from nothing. And Eve did form out of Adam's rib while he was
sleeping. (God did it) A Fairy Tale. Heck no. Basically, your saying there
that we are a fairy tale then." "That said, the origins of other religions are very
suspect. They have religious texts that they claim are inerrant but
obviously aren't for various reasons..." [Series of posts latter revealed to be satire removed, with apologies to jp_Machiavelli] "His first question is why would these [pseudogenes,
fossils, etc.] be the case. The answer is simple, God did it. Why? Who
knows... MartinM is stuck on insisting on a scientific reason. God doesn't
need a scientific reason to do things. He is God and can do as He
pleases." "Again, you want a reason, something that can be fit
into a nice neat little scientific hypothesis. Unfortunately for your
cause, God doesn't have to have any more of a reason than it was His
will." [After a bunch of silly assertions from assorted websites
are shot down] "Are ya saying you have successfully refuted
EVERYTHING on the internet? Oh come one Martinm. You know you want to be a
Christian." "As far as provisions [for Noah], God provided for
them through His miracle of supply. So there was always food for the
animals in the feed buckets. I would imagine that God provided the trees
for the lumber." [Replying to 'why would you compare Hitler to Darwin?']
"from my point of view, Darwin has caused much more damage (in a
sheer numbers sense), especially if T[heory]o[f]E[volution] destroys the
faith of young christians." "Gods want FAITH. Maybe He feels He has given us
enough 'witness' and now wants us to believe regardless 'science' shows.
Maybe it takes a sort of 'blind faith' to weed thru all the
'evidence'." "... the cause of it is probbably the
[dinosaur-killing] 'asteriod', or what i think was satan being cast into
earth" "how do you know it [the asteroid] didnt make the
earth void or without shape?" "and for all the aetheists.... WHY IS THERE PROOF OF
A GOD WHO IS KNOWN TO 'not exist'? Answer that with THOUGHT AND A GOOD
AMOUNT OF CAUTION..." "Well, I sorta hate to admit this, but it has crossed
my mind, Lord??? Please don't let me be on the toilet when the rapture
occurs! LOL I have honestly said that and worried I'd be in the bath or on
the John." "I seriously pray to the Lord each time I get in a
car that I am driving that the rapture does not happen when I am driving.
I know it would not be my fault in any way but I feel bad at the thought
that my car could kill a potential believer." "I would just like to say that last night I felt a
strong urge to get a rapture ready kit together... I put a couple of
tracts inside, a couple of book tracts, and an apologetic book that shows
that Jesus has to be real... . I also have a sealed envelope that says 'Do
Not open unless millions dissappear: The Rapture' With a dated letter
showing that I knew about this before hand." "Make an audio or video tape and seal it in an
envolope. Then mark it with something like 'In case of mase disapperance
open.' I'd make copies of it and put them around town in various places
where people might go, (churches, stores, etc.) Does that sound to
crazy?" [On how the anti-Christ will explain the Rapture]
"He's probably going to say that humans are undergoing an 'evolution'
of sorts. Like an old Physics teacher in my high school told me: '... when
there are too many people in the world, the world takes care of itself by
eliminating half the population.'... In a nutshell, I think the AC is
going to say that we didn't survive the evolution of Earth and that they
did, thus, they are the better species." "how do you know the 'being' who has given you peace
on these issues was in fact, God, and not Satan? (I've already explained
how I know when it's God...He's consistent with His Word, Prayer, and
other believers)." "greek mythology became myth because it didn't have
enough convincing information, wereas christianity originated long before
greek myth but is still a religion, so obviously christianity must be more
significantt" "You will not find much evidence [of the Hebrew
slaves] in Egypt. They are anti semitic and have eliminated most evidence
of Jews ever being in their country." "The remains of Babylon of course is still there. It
has never been rebuilt, even though they have tried to rebuild it over the
years... The burning bush of moses is said to still be alive and is being
protected in the center of a monastery. They say there is a place in the
desert where the quail are tired from their long flight and drop exhausted
out of the sky. Just as the Bible talks about." "If Adam and Eve were the first two humans, with no
others created, whouldn't we all be Jews with lineages back to Adam?" "You are a pretty funny person. As far as the
O[ld]T[estament] goes, God wanted those people dead for a reason. Be it
the wicked lives and practices they [and their children?] lead or the
genetic make up they had. Far be it from any of us to question God.
Mind you unbelievers may get a chance to ask God questions like your's
before they are banished for eternity." [Emphasis Added] [When the actor in Mel Gibson's movie about Jesus got
struck by lightning twice in a row] "...being hit twice, on the same
set, and 2 different times relatively close to each other is beyond
astronomical. I know atheists love to dismiss astronomically rare events
as mere coincidences, but being struck by lightning while playing the most
controversial character, in the most controversial movie ever made, and
walking away with barely a scratch both times is beyond coincidence." "They were doing something unscriptural and God was
warning them to get back on track or Satan ( who can control the weather)
tried to kill off the main actor so the movie couldn't finish, and God
protected him. Either way, its beyond a freaky coincidence." [To a poster who explains, from personal experience, that
surviving lightning is surprisingly common] "How do you know Satan
didn't try to kill you with lightning bolts, and God was protecting you
since it wasn't your time?" "Yes I think there is a verse in the Bible saying
Satan has the power to control lightning ( don't know it off the top of my
head though). He is the prince of the power of the air." "Probably cuz, its [Gibson's movie] got catholic
ties." "Could be G-d Could be satan I would say saton used
the lightning because he doesn't want the film made and G-d saved him from
being killed Or it could just be G-d is showing he is involved being the
actor was not hurt in severe way either time" "Since I was a kid, my mom has always told me that
actors who have played Jesus always seem to have something really odd
happen to them...boom, another one. I don't know if it is God's way of
saying 'don't even...'" "I think it is safe to say... After two times, if
this guy was doing something wrong, he would be complete toast. It may
have been a warning, it may be a justified 'hey, bub, you are getting to
close...'... but it would only be that. If he was doing anything seriously
bad, he DEFINITELY would be an ash tray." "I think that God controls the weather...I did a
search at Crosswalk.com: [insert long list of verses where God sends
lightning and thunder]..." "Come on, to even think that God would strike a
person with lightning. I thought he loves us all? He does. Could it be
Satan has a way with weather and doesnt want this movie released?" "it was satan pissed off that they are doing too good
of a job portraying how Christ suffered for us. scriptures plainly state
he is able to bring fire down from heaven (i.e. lightning) and much more
besides." "When I read the thread title I admit I was hoping
the 'actor' involved was the one who portrays Jesus in the controversial
play 'Corpus Christi', a play in which many actors have quit due to the
immense public outcry against it due to the portrayal of a gay Jesus. Oh
darn [slapping forehead smiley]" "My guess is that satan was throwing lightning bolts,
and God saved this man's life...twice." "God has gone into show business! He is doing the PR
for this movie. More people will go to see it now than would have if not
for this event. Or...There is a movement against the church by Hollywood
to run christians away from the movie by publicizing a very common event
out in the open during a thunderstorm... Think about it!!" "When I first read the headline, I thought maybe the
article was going to state that the actor who was struck by lightning was
the one who is playing the 'gay' Jesus in that one play. I thought, 'oh
this will be a wake up call to people'" "It is no secret that I consider the Catholic Church
a cult, because I have posted that many times on this board, so I am very
distrustful of anything the Vatican okays." "Jesus raised people from the dead, healed crippled
and twisted limbs, restored sight to the blind, created fish and bread out
of nothing, and commanded the wind and waves to obey Him. I wonder if that
[liberal] teacher mentioned these historical facts?" "And what historical evidence do YOU have that Jesus
is not God, didn't raise the dead, heal the sick and crippled, and create
fish and bread from nothing? I'll be waiting right here for you to
disprove it." "You are WRONG! The burden of proof that Jesus is not
God falls on the accuser (the skeptic). We also have iron clad proof, it's
called the Bible. It's up to the accuser to prove the Bible to be in
error. Lyra had the audacity to come on here and basically tell me that
Jesus' divinity was nothing more than my opinion. That's just
hogwash!" "The atheist says God doesn't exist, so it's up to
him to prove it. I am not obligated to prove anything to the atheist. Show
me JUST ONE sentence in the Bible that is in error about Jesus raising the
dead, healing the sick and crippled... Show me that and we'll talk." [Replying to 'Prove that I am not God'] "Beam me over
to your house in five minutes and I'll believe you!" "I proved you wasn't God didn't I? I am still here in
California and not in Philly." "When the trumpet sounds, when the trumpet
sounds..." "Uh, no. We already know and have proof that Jesus
existed and He was God. You need to prove to us He wasn't." "Remember, people are not use to having to prove what
they say (except maybe at a board like this). So your teacher may just be
saying stuff [about Jesus being an ordinary man] that he heard someone
else say, and he is just repeating it." "Where did you come up with this nonsense [about
Jesus being a psychosomatic faith healer]? You are flat out saying that
the followers of Christ were all brainwashed by Him (and so are we
Christians today)." "You can all get some tracks [sic] at that website
above [from Jack Chick]. They are pretty cheap, and have a very
good message." "Atheism is a ferocious system that leaves nothing
above us to excite awe, nor around us, to awaken tenderness." "Christianity is growing rapidly in places like Asia
and Africa. Atheism is irrational, illogical, incoherant and existentially
self-destructive." "At least I have hope that the millions of children
in the world dying and starving will eventually be happy, and cease
suffering... In the atheistic world, children will die and suffer
endlessly as long as the Earth is still here. Thats a heck of a lot more
depressing than the children eventually getting to be happy and experience
joy and love, instead of hunger and disease." "Macroevolution is not well-documented by any strech
of the imagination. In fact, the fossil record shows that there were a
larger number of earlier species than previously thought. Darwin's single
ancestor theory simply doesn't explain for the large variety of species,
especially in light of morality." "Maybe nothing wrong with homosexuality to you, but
most Atheists don't have a problem with anything. Slaughtering babies,
sodomy, fornication, adultery, cussing etc. We wouldn't want to deprive
you of your fun now would we?" "Most of the so called 'learned professionals' are
atheists and have abandoned any sense of right and wrong and promote the
do it if it feels good agenda of Morally bankrupt organizations of God
haters." *** 'Up-and-Coming Jerry Falwell Deputy' Award *** "Some people believed that 9-11 was God's judgement
or God's wake-up call to America. Would some people think that this
10-fire or 11-fire blazer is a judgment by God to California for being a
liberal state, or is it just simply work of arsonists who are just angry,
or something else?" "Just a question. Is it any wonder that the the most
liberal state in the Union [California] has the HIGHEST percentage of
Forest fires??? Just coincidence???" "There are no coincidences with God." "I do believe this is another 'sign' ... but not due
to the previous mentioned liberal CA ideas. The East Coast gets hurricanes
- midwest gets tornados... Earlier this year, we all discussed the
intensity of hurricanes being a sign of the end times, and how pestilence
is getting worse. I think it's the same this time." "I can't wait to see how liberals will blame this
[fire] on president Bush. Or Jews..." "The only reason God said that [to kill babies] is
because people weren't obeying Him. Whatever isn't holy isn't any use to
Him so He basically wants it taken out." "Yes, I would [kill an infant if God asked]. I'm not
saying it would be easy, but I would. Everybody is unholy. Even the
infants." "The answer is that God is also a vengful God...
Therefore he would sometimes instruct his people to kill their enimies (
including women and childern) and there was good reason for this..." "... why is your screen name Dragon of Earth? The
name in which the Bible gave to Satan, or did you think it was your own
ingenius idea? Either way, if you don't belive then you're then one who
will have eternal damnation with the real Dragon. HAVE FUN!!!!" "... the reason that God told his people to kill
women and childern was so that the whole race would be off the earth and
then we wouldn't have problems we have today." "He told them to kill those who would if left alive
would give them trouble later. Look what Iseral is dealing with now. The
Palistines are the same guys that God told Saul to kill every last one of
but Saul saved the women and babies and now there desendence are now
plaguing Iseral." *** Post of the Week for November 2-8, 2003 *** "They do have morals... God's morals. The only reason
why God told those people to kill the other people is because they were
unholy. So technically it is moral to eliminate unholy people from your
life." "It depends what the circumstances are. I wouldn't
just kill a nonbeliever for the heck of it." "What is an Atheist? I mean is it one that really
doesn't believe in God? or is it one Refuses to believe in God while
knowing he exists. I was convinced that there is no people out there that
still thing that there is no God. [frowning smiley]" "If you are gonna call something a fact that can't be
proven as such, i'm gonna call you on it. Either prove, 100% undeniably
that humans descended from apes, or cut the arrogant 'we know all'
crap." "i used to think pot was cool, that was until i
basically learned it was a harmless substance, then im thinking what is so
cool about something as soft as pot. it is a pussies drug for people who
are too scared to anything harder, and if they do that, then they're just
an idiot." "... that image [parodying creationists, see
here] is a little inaccurate, since it depects a lizard leaping from
the webpage and then transforming into a bird mid-leap into the brain.
That is an evolutionist idea." "Islam, when given the opportunity and power will use
what it was using throughout its existence....voilence and force. Islam
now cannot fully exercise this because lack of power, now their tactics
and strategies are much more subtle." "Do not post about how its just like Christianity.
Its not. It is not PEACEFUL, thats a lie. Muslims have targeted the United
States with an aggressive missionary program." "Last time I check, I didnt' see or read about
Christians... blowing up buildings, school buses full of childern or other
such things... I first thought it was a religon of peace, speaking of all
nations and colors, etc... later study revealed a horrible truth. One that
American Muslims simply ignore, skip over and try to play off about there
religion." [On the Crusades, witch burnings, etc.] "There is a
difference between Christians who have Jesus and Christians by name." [On heaven] "If you have ever taken LSD (20 years or
so ago when LSD actually existed) you can only imagine how fascinating
life will be with (not just a redeemed body) but also a redeemed mind. I
can't wait." [Replying to 'Heaven is like being on LSD???'] "That's not what I'm saying. LSD (that is, real LSD, not the garbage today that is called LSD) increases a peson's I.Q. Back in the 60's and 70's double blind studies were conducted on LSD. Subjects were given an I.Q. test before taking LSD. After taking LSD, the subjects were given another I.Q. test and the results showed that their scores rose significantly. But today the I.Q. scores decrease. I don't know what's in the junk today that people are claiming to be LSD but it's obviously not the real thing. Real LSD hasn't existed for at least 20 years. My point is that, with redeemed minds in heaven, I imagine our I.Q.'s
are going to be tremendous. I can't wait. This has nothing to do
with halucinating (which by the way is the most boring part of real
LSD)." "What leads me to believe that bacteria developing
resistance to an antibiotic is not evolutionary is its predictability,
consistency and it’s inerrancy. It works every time... There is no
randomness or chance in a bacteria becoming resistant, the process does
not vary. The bacteria act as if on que. That’s not evolution that’s
doing what they are 'told' to do." "Oh well, I guess some of us ignoramuses will just
have to go on believing the Lord instead of the apostate, hell-bound,
infidel evolutionists." "if you believe this stuff you write, then you
believe the Lord took on humanity which came from evolved animal like
creatures... please stop using evolution as an alternative christian
belief system" "In Romans chapter one, Paul is talking about people
who find it easier to worship the creature more than the Creator. This
could very well apply to people who claim to be Christians and yet believe
in evolution. These people hold to what they supposed the fossil evidence,
made of of animal bones, shows them instead of what the Word of God
plainly says." "... there are references in the Bible that indicate
that the earth, indeed, is round. It was declared flat by the apostate
church at that time. Science, in coming to the conclusion that the world
is round, simply caught up with God's word." "No, knowledge is permanent, nutrition is not, it has
to be renewed. The Tree of Life was a super nutritious fruit tree that
protected us from disease, mutations, and etc. So after it was metabolized
we needed to eat some more in order to live forever." [Replying to 'Muslims aren't imposing their god on North
American people through the government'] "I'm sorry, but that is one
of the most ignorant statements I have ever heard. Muslims brought 2
skyscrapers down in New York and slaughtered over 3000 people trying to
impose their God on us." [On Kent Hovind's tax fraud] "people on welfare
fraudulently steal from you too. Where is your outrage over this?" "And by the way, Islam is a sham... I think I will go
and do something a little more ineresting like maybe start a new thread
somewhere to discuss the possibility that the world may in fact be
flat." "I have no abhorrence of atheist or agnostics. I
respect you as people. I pretty much respect all beliefs and people." [A few posts later] "Very often the laws of this land are in concert with
Christianity or at least they were until hoards of satans followers
(atheist, muslims etc.) began to cry about being overlooked." *** Generalization of the Month *** "To think that Muslims are peacefully sitting around
doing nothing but eat figs while pumping oil is ridiculous. They too have
a collective objective that they must see to the END... The whole world
must convert or die!" "Does anyone understand this? 'Their version of the
end does not include non Muslims' where does that leave non Muslims, the
atheists, the agnostics and Christians? In the grave that’s where! Can
this be said of Biblical Christianity? I think not!" "Your points weren't exactly solid facts... It is not
the same as Christianity or Judaism. These religions were not delivered
via false revelations... The focus in Christianity and Judaism is on a
relationship with God. Islam promotes subservience to Allah in the hopes
of not going to hell... Christians only want to make the country moral as
so many other groups do. The muslims here want to make this country islam
based." "Look carefully at any mention of islam or the quran
in the public arena and look at how quickly anyone is to proclaim that it
is not correct and is part of an anti-islamic bias... The muslim agenda
that I have seen states that by increasing their numbers and becoming a
solid voting block that they will then be able to effect changes
politically. Hardly the attitude of people just merely looking for a
better way of life here in the US." "I do have an open mind. Otherwise I would believe in
nothing or the existence of nothing. I would be oh say an agnostic." *** Double Double Standards Prize *** "The koran, allahs word, REQUIRES IT TO OCCUR and
CONDONES murder by promising paradise... No doubt some atrocities did
occur in the Bible. I am not up on all of them. G-d did indeed order the
killing of pagans, atheist, agnostics etc… Not sure why except they were
and are a scourge on the earth and against him." "Islam is of satan. Even the simplest research into
the beginning of islam will show that. You people (atheist, agnostics etc)
come here to defend a position with simply your words and no factual
evidence." "I am surprised that you seemingly know absolutely
nothing about islam... You must be an atheist; I have found that atheists
frequently have all the answers." "You are simply using your circular logic to create
an argument about something. You really need to become more knowledgeable
about the facts before you come here and compare the vile nature of islam
to Christianity." "Athesist are to be pitied. They are so clueless that
it boggles the mind. I can not wait to see them all bowing and declaring
Jesus is Lord. What a day that will be. I just pray that I will have a
compassionate heart because I do picture myself standing up and saying 'Ha
in your face, told you He was real.'" "And after getting this [college science] education
you have what? Wisdom of man/wisdom of the world. And what exactly does
God say these are?" "Evolution cannot account for the entire world being
destroyed 4000 years ago. It requires millions of years. Either that or an
ark exponentially bigger than the Bible speaks of." "Now i think God made bacteria, because bacteria are
important for eating our poo and keeping us from getting sick... although
some bacteria do make us sick for some reason (i dont get that, i think
some bacteria get influenced by satan and deviate from goodness or
something). But i heard viruses arent even alive, they just make more of
themselves and kill things, so whats the point of that? I think viruses
are the work of satan, because all they bring is death and
destruction..." "Then why did God create virii? Maybe theyre an
instrument of punishment. I get colds all the time. Maybe God isnt happy
with me." "It is true that viruses and other harmful unseen
agents were blamed to be demons. If you want to get spiritual, viruses and
sickness are catalyzed and controlled by dark forces." "In the beginning... There was nothing. Then,
for no reason... BANG! everything that we know and love flew out at
different angles, rocks and stars started hitting each other and stuff...
then water came out of this explosion and evolution turned mud into
humans." "I have the words in my bible and its manuscripts
show they are authenic. The burden of proof is on you guys to show they
are not" "And I have no earth-shaking answers other than to
say that of all the religions out there, Christianity is the most likely
to be true because of what God reveals about himself in the bible and
through Jesus." "SUPER Little People(not midgets)... And I
MEAN LITTLE. Anyone heard of an Ishcock or Ishacock I got no clue how to
spell it. They are super tiny like less than 7inches and live in
Alaska(Northern)" "I completely agree with you that natural selection
is incompatible with scripture, but for some of the reasons outlined
above, I don't believe that evolution is, per se. Call it 'supernatural
selection' if you like." "How many have seen 'Left Behind'? How many have read
the series? How did Antichrist control what the public was being told? He
used the media... They are NOT of God therefore they are of Satan. Don't
be deceived by the lies." "I can't stand liberals, and I love to read books
that document their hypocrisy, their lack of morals, and their lack of
direction..." "This book [by Ann Coulter] highlights the main
reasons why liberals lie... You won't read it, because you are a hypocrite
that tells everyone else to open their mind, meanwhile, your mind is as
tight as a clamp... By the way, Jesus loves you!!" [ Later] "here's me not reading your link. and not caring what
another conservative thinks about Coulter. That's his/her opinion. My
opinion is that she rocks!" "Coulter... speaks truth, liberals cry, they call her
names, they cry some more, and then all of us people on the right side of
the issues get together and have a good laugh at the liberals
expense." "actually no, because we are being persecuted by
everyday run of the mill secularists, daily. Not extremeist atheists once
every ten years.." "Does it matter what you eat according to Evolution?
According to Creation you should eat fruits, vetables, etc..." "I believe that you would still go to heaven even if
you don't belong in any religion as long, you did good things when you
were living on earth and as long you do believe and have a strong faith in
HIM." "We are a free nation? Dang, I've been noticing that
less and less... All this welfare, socialism, separation of church and
state... And other bull that our government is doing." "The whole global warming thing to me is just plain
humorous... I take it about as serious as evolution... Its just something
a bunch of overpaid scientists come up with cause they dont have anymore
studies to do with monkeys..." *** 'Death by Irony Overdose' Certificate *** "Anyways, the article that Eru mentioned [from a
science magazine], was chock-full of crap. Totally un-scientific. For
example, the dick-head who wrote the article doesn't even understand the
Second Law of Thermodynamics... for evolution to work for millions of
years, entropy needs to be put on hold, even reversed, unless you are
suggesting that bacterium have higher energy levels then mammals." "The Hardcore-Zealot-Orthodox-Creationist was once an
evolutionist... Heh, come on, I was five (yes, I understood evolution at
age five...). Call it doublethink. I learned the truth (ie, creation) soon
after I was confirmed." [Explaining away anatomical vestiges and pseudogenes]
"The intentional disabling of shareware [limited-use trial software]
does exactly this sort of thing. Ok there is an example. Do I win
now?" "Now if there were no God, no Christianity, I can
only imagine a world full of very selfish, non-caring people. This place
would be a living hell." "If you look closely at a bar code it has '666' on
it. Now if you want to be ignorant on the whole thing and be rediculous
thats fine. Not my place to judge you that is God's, but i would suggest
you watch yourself before the anti-christ comes along and you think its
some joke and you put that crap on you only its permanant and wont wash
off like pen. That is why you SHOULD NOT take it lightly." "Are you telling me the Jewish people do not believe
God exists in Three persons?... So because I don't know what the Jewish
religion teaches I am ignorant?" "If i could stand there personally and show you, 666
is in the barcode... its not something you can just glance at and be like
'oh hey there is 666 this bag of chips is doomed to hell!!! hahaha' If it
was that obvious it probly would be harder to market. Its there though i
promise and go ahead and mock me... Its ok i got no hate for ignorance
just no understanding." *** Honorable Mention (from Usenet) *** "Well, as I have discovered, the term *Ra* is the
name given to the 'sun god'... According to my christian background and
relationship with the God of the bible, [the poster known as] Aron[-Ra] is
getting his inspiration from the psychopath known in the bible, as satan.
So, therefore, by attempting to show Aron his flaws and deception, I would
be basically engaging in a debate with the devil himself and I refuse to
make conversation with the devil, so my challenge to Aron (who is being
inspired by satan), is off." "i doubt it why sould i even care anyway [about
global warming]?? i know where im goin when i die so why should this petty
earth matter to me? it will pass on wether i use an aerosol can or not
anyway." "As is my understanding, if Darwinism is true then
there is no Christian God. Common descent says everything started from one
single organism. The Bible, however, says that God created all living
creatures... then Adam named them. That theory is against God." "I'm a Christian so I have plenty of repsect for
buddhists and NOOOOOOOOOOO respect for buddhism!!! Jesus is God, no one
else... No other god's. Believe me, there aint to other god's!" "I doubt that A[nswers]i[n]G[enesis] are going to
'correct' something just on the basis of [geologist Glenn] Morton's
say-so. Who is he that we should take heed of what he says? The Internet
is full of junk by people with no or little scientific
qualifications." *** Bizarre Creationist Assertion of the Month *** "Our sun contains over 99% of the mass contained in
the entire universe. That to me is incredible. Why our sun? Why not some
other star?... Coincidence? Come on. Not even the most close-minded
scientist can genuinely buy into that argument. It's there for a reason,
and it's presence isn't random." "i was simply stating that global warming is a
rediculous joke... The freakin earth is not going to melt away or anything
this is rediculous.... i like science but some things are just to far
fetched...." "scientists cant prove the earth to be whatever
billion years old can they... but natural disaster like a flood or God
simply making the earth look old are much more reasonalbe... Gods pretty
old... hes been around for forever...so there" "... you assume that their assumptions [about decay
rates] are based on fact and not fiction or creative writting. ie.
(imagination)" "So far are on this thread we have Dr. Dino 2
Evolutionists 0." "Yes, & it is this evidence the Evolutionist
CHOOSES to ignore in defrence to their unproven- unproveable I should also
say theories, which are only cloaks for their disdain for the Creator
God." "... evolutionists will go to a site like Dr. Dino
and search it with a fine tooth comb for some tiny little point that they
think is easy to falsify. But then when you bring up one of the major
points he is trying to establish, they run for cover." "If two species can't reproduce and create a third,
what logic is there in saying that my genome can degrade and mutate to the
point that I'm no longer human? There is a distinct barrier between
species, one that cannot be broken through sex or evolution." [on the thermodynamics argument] "So you're telling
me that the Earth is essentially converts heat [from the sun] into work.
Wow, does that mean that it's a perpetual motion machine?" "I believe that we all come into the world tainted
with sin. So even the apparently sinless baby is not truely pure - not
enough to merit access to God's kingdom - yet. We all need to recognize
the miracle of Christ before we can be 'washed white as cloth'" *** Amazing Apologist Logic of the Month *** [Replying to 'So the three year old killed by a drunk
driver goes to hell?'] "That's my belief, yeah. God surely has the
power to prevent that car accident. So, it's not an accident really. The
child did not lose his chance at God's kingdom by a stroke of bad luck -
too bad, you died to early. God could have prevented it. It's also
possible that God caused the accident to happen. Remember, God knows all.
It's quite possible that the child would grow to be a terrible sinner, a
great plague to good people, if not stopped while he was young." "The thing that the Liberal(freethinker) is utterly
unable to accept is that for true pluralism to work people must be willing
to adhere to the will of the majority in the community in which they live
to within very broad limits. If unable to do so the right thing is to tear
up stakes and move to a more pleasing social climate." "Why do you feel that you must create controversy...?
Would it not be better to just try to tolerate someone who is different
from yourself...?" "Still feeling the repercussions of the Phelps team
here in Casper to erect a monument 'celebrating' five years since the
murder of [Matthew] Shepard and his 'entering into hell'. Everyone knows
the general details. Shepard was a sodomite whore... " "Politically correct? Nope. Correct? Yes. I stand by
what I said 100%. And I am saddened that some have seen fit to condemn ME
as the evil doer in simply reporting on how evil this young man was." "I will have to agree with Dr. Bob on this one.
Shepherd was a sodomite; he was seeking out partners. Gee, if the shoe
fits, wear it. Part of the effect that the sodomite agenda is having is
that it is causing Christians to shy away from calling sodomy a perverted
sin." "Mathew Shepherd was no hero. He was a victim of a
violent crime but his lifestyle was the predominant contributor to his
demise." "'Sodomite' and 'Whore' are biblical words and are
accurate discription of this person. Why do you want to make sin sound ok,
by using the nice words for perversion. Thnks Dr. Bob for your
courage." "those who think they are defending poor homosexuals
from mean ole Christians are condoning and affirming and accepting it as a
good lifestyle or worst. if you have that position you may want to ask the
moderator if you should even be posting here. you do not do any homosexual
any favor by placing their exceedingly sinful lifestyle as any less then
the abomination it is." "the problem with your rancor is that you see
homosexuality such as not giving to the church or speeding in a car, and
most Christians would see it as serious as murder" "I will agree, Shepherd was a sodomite whore, simple
as that. Too many people here, in the name of love, are more concerned
with what our politically correct society says than what God says... Those
of you here who want to buddy up to the sodomite crowd with the thought
that you will win them over are sorely deceived." *** Post of the Month for November 2003 *** "also concerning shepard, this young sodomite was
possibly given mercy even though an evil act of murder took him, in
respect to future judgment and added wrath for his on going homosexuality
would of added much more wrath as time went on. so in short it was mercy
in a spiritual sense that he didn't live a long life." "There is one person, in my eyes, mainly responsible
for Mathew's death and that is himself. He led a reckless lifestyle and in
the end he got caught... If Mathew would have conducted his life in a more
responsible manner maybe he could have lived long enough for someone to
reach out and wittness to him and yes, maybe he could have accepted Christ
into his heart. That is the real tragedy as I see it." "It should be pointed out that if Matthew Shephard
had not 'hit' on his soon to be killer, he might still be alive today. So
to say that no one else is to blame for his murder is, in my opinion,
wrong. His action led to a reaction, thus both 'parties' are to
blame." "I am not saying that Mathew deserved to die... I am
simply saying that Mathew's sinful lifestyle and the resulting poor
choices that he made are mostly responsible for his death." "If that same 'just' person is murdered because they
placed themselves in a comprimising situation and I'm sorry if we disagree
here but I believe that Mathew did, then they are, in part, to blame. You
seem to be saying that Mathew had the right to conduct his lifestyle as
recklessly as he wanted and should be absolved of all responsibility for
the actions that ensued." "What constitutes [spousal] abuse? By what standard
do you make this judgment [that it's grounds for divorce]? Does that
change I Cor. 11:3 and Ephesians 5? If so, how? And, book, chapter and
verse, please. Your argument is without biblical foundation. There is no
divine inspired evidence to support your assertion. " [Replying to 'a woman is to stay with an abusive husband and just take it?'] "That is pretty much what the Bible says." *** Post of the Week for November 9-15, 2003 *** "Would you please site the passage that states a
woman is to leave her husband based on physical abuse. There is one for
sexual immorality, but not for abuse... try reading how God instructed the
Israelites to treat their slaves. There was a limitation on the amount of
abuse, but there was quite a bit of abuse allowed." "I'm sorry that you have a problem with this part of
scripture. Do you have the same reaction to Jesus' statement that when one
is struck one should simply turn the other cheek(to be struck
again)?" "Jesus said that if someone physically abuses you,
you are to turn the other cheek so that the abuse may continue. What are
your thoughts?" "What do you think Jesus meant by turn the other
cheek? It seems rather clear to me that it so that the person can strike
you again. In other words, so that the physical abuse can continue... God
will take care of us. If that means by death, as in Stephen's case, so be
it." "Your view is very materialistic. Do you have a
problem with God's command that a man who rapes a woman is to be punished
by having to marry her?" "When you have no scriptural support for your
position, it is a good tactic to side step the issue and attack the other
person. It doesn't deal with the topic, but it is a good tactic." "I'm just wondering if there is something wrong if
one is not willing to trust in God. I wondering if we might be missing
something if we think that our safety is the most important thing. I don't
find the instruction to leave if abused in the Bible. I find the
instruction to leave over adultry, not over physical abuse. How much of
this is our societal values working its way into out belief system?" "The closest thing that I can get for that is a
combination of the turn the other cheek idea and Paul's statement that the
man is the head of the family. If the wife has the husband arrested [for
abuse], then the wife is usurping authority over her husband." [Replying to a hypothetical scenario of an abusive wife]
"Once again, I'm the head of the family, therefore am in a better
position to deal with this problem than a woman would be from my Biblical
perspective. I would have her stop. If she would not, then I'd have her
arrested." "She is knowingly having him thrown in jail and out
of the house. This is usurping authority." "Once again, an opion based on social values, but
devoid of biblical suport." "Yes, I agree that it [hitting] is abuse and pain. I
would just like the see the scripture that backs up your position that
this is grounds for divorce. There's one for adultry, but there isn't one
for physical abuse. Do you believe Jesus wasn't aware of this
problem?" "I really do believe that our societal values have
worked its ways into the very core of beliefs. I'm not so sure this is
such a good thing." "Where in the Bible does it say that a husband who is
a jerk or in violation of civil law is not to be respected and to be the
head of the family?" "You are making the mistake of believing that what
happens to us is important. It is our own relationship with God which is
important. This is the very reason why slavery is allowed in a Godly
community. This is the very reason why liberals must make up excuses for
why there are so many insonsitancies between their idea of a loving God
and what the Bible says God commands." "If this is incorrect, then why is slavery allowed in
the Christian community?" "You can believe this if you like. It is a lie, but
you are allowed to believe a lie if you wish. Was it illegal to beat a
slave during bibilical times? According to the Bible it was not. But as I
said, believe what you choose to believe." "According to Jesus, there is only one reason why a
divorce is correct and that has nothing to do with abuse. Do you really
believe that Jesus was ignorant of this problem?... Didn't God give us
brains to determine what is right and wrong?" "There are dynamics at play here. Everyone plays a
part. If you get the picture from one side, you are getting a very
distorted view. The family is a system and each member adds to and is
affected by what other members do. You can play the blame [the abuser]
game if you like. It just isn't entirely accurate in many of the
situations out there." "On the other hand, small revivals occur in some 3rd
world countries like the notoriously apostate country of Haiti: the poor
Voodoo-ists (Devil worshippers) command their children to go to Christian
schools (100%) and get saved. Every state-run and private school in Haiti
performs daily evangelical praying and singing as per Christ's teachings
and the gospel. The T[heory]o[f]E[volution] is fully discarded from all
K1-12th grade curriculums. Thus, these poor wretches have not entirely
discarded Christ's teachings nor gospel." "Yep it is a result of the fall of man... Snake
venom, in a world with higher air pressure becomes something very
different to a toxin, in fact the total opposite." [Arguing against theistic evolution] "And this
overlooks the fact that evolution is a wasteful, cruel and inefficient
process... and there is loads of death and suffering." "We came from primordial soup. No better yet, we came
out of a coterie of atoms who decided that life was too boring without
humans and everything else that we marvel at. or am i really wrong about
the big bang?" "what i implied was, the atheistic view of big bang
doesn't have an answer for the origin of man." "Mutations which confer resistance to HIV could also
be adaption to enviroment...or...possibly Gods judgement to those who have
sinned as prophecied in the Bible." "Omg this thread is so gay. I'm glad I never come to
this forum, for I would have lost all of my beliefs from realist bitches.
Can't you just leave the religious people alone. Is it against the fucking
law to have beliefs, no matter how unrealistic they may seem to you
cunts?" *** Post of the Week for November 16-22, 2003 *** "Why Don't All The Openly Rebellious God Haters Of
this World Commit Suicide?... What hope do they have to keep on living
without the love of God, Jesus as their savior, & the power of the
Holy Spirit Guiding them through life. If they are this against God, why
don't they choose to commit suicide? Are many of these evil God haters
deep down afraid of death? Do they know suicide will abruptly bring them
into Satan's Hellish realm? What do you think?" "Why would anyone assume I am wishing death on
anyone? [scratching head smiley] I am just wondering what keeps a God
hater like a Satanist from living instead of committing suicide." "If We Evangelical Christians Are Still Here In
Five Years... How far do you believe Liberals and Atheists will have
made it in their quest to outlaw Evangelical Christianity in
America?" "I just got my monthly Voice of the Martyr's magazine
yesterday. They think within 15 years persecution will be as bad here as
it is anywhere." "An interesting side-bar. I'm almost 50... I always
believed I would live to see a time when our Bibles would be illegal in
this country." "It is interesting to see fascists projecting fascism
on the belief they hate... Atheists have labeled themselves free-thinkers
while they mass murdered their citizens through communist governments...
Christians are of course bigots, homophobes, anti-female, killers of the
enivornment, punishers of criminals, anti-liberty, fascists... Marx would
be sooo proud." "They are playing games here, because their lives are
essentially without meaning, their worlds miserable, and their natures
evil. They need therefore to make the rest of us miserable. That is their
legacy, their mission, the legacy they will stand before Christ with...
They need to hear that God's future world will be a monarchy, and they
will be cast into hell, lest they repent of their sad and evil lives...
" "Yes, that is why the liberals, socialists,
communists, and Islam hate us... Those Americans, who cherish individual
liberty, grounded in the doctrines of the dignity of man, found in the Old
and New Testaments." "They will continue to spew their own tyranny on us
and parade it before us all daily, until God brings history to its final
day, and thus will end their foolsparade, and commence the revelation of
their hate before the whole moral universe. Sadly." "Thank you , Battered Angel, for giving the devil his
due... If Battered Angel speaks against such an abomination of our world
with contempt and hatred, this in no way blashphemes Christ's gospel of
love." "The common thread to all athiest thinking ,I would
assume, is that the world would be better off without Christianity." "Would every evolutionist here agree that the number
of generations we are made of should greatly outnumber the total number of
mutations that we are made of?" "I wouldnt let the aclu help me out of a burning
building. I dont throw in with satan." "And even if they did choose which scripture was put
in the Bible, the Catholic church was never the heretical temple of
blasphemy that it is now... You can whine all you want about me objecting
to the RCC. It is a creation of Satan and the Pope is his greatest
asset." "More stupid rants that make you look like a child
throwing a temper tantrum... And news for you, I'm not a protestant, so
how about you shut up?" "You are just trading one god (Yahweh or Allah,
Brahman or Zeus, Gaia or Ishtar, whatever you call Him/Her/It) for another
(evolution). However, evolution doesn't judge, has no real purpose, and is
a systematic process instead of a personal or even impersonal
spirit." "In this particular instance God is giving a
'deceiving message' to the prophet which has spoken to the idolater... God
didn't lie to anyone here, He's misleading false prophets to show them for
what they are." "Deuteronomy 22:13-21 is about the punishments for a
wife being promiscuous before marriage [stoning] and a husband lying about
it. Of course, the skeptics' anachronistic objection here is that... such
punishments are considered 'unfair' or 'cruel.'" "OK, then consider my faith logic. I have logic in
Christ, if faith is such a 'bad' word." "This is the beginning of the end times... Not only
until recently have we seen such wild weather connect at the same time
when such sinful antics were being made in the world." "I think we are in the Home Stretch [of the
Rapture],cause I have seen in the media a lot more people have died this
year than in previous years. Plus the Persecution of Christians and
Conservatives in the USA in 2003 has been really bad." "I wonder if Japan is taking note with all these
earthquakes they keep getting. Wonder if the other pagan societies are
even noticing?" "To far into the future and we will be one big happy
world government colonizing mars, laughing at how there used to be lines
drawn on maps seperating humanity. I do not think people will have a
chance to escape the tribulation by being on another planet." "I have wondered why there aren't more suicides in
unbelievers in general because life without Christ is so empty!" "What we 'hate' here, is false teaching from anybody
and man-made religion. We don't hate catholics, but we do hate apostacy in
the RCC." "If you come to promote that great enemy of Christ,
the Roman Catholic Church, don't expect to be treated too kindly here. If
you come here to actually seek God and to follow him, you must first set
aside your religion. " "That's the typical line you'll always get from
Catholics: 'You just don't understand'. You could've been a freaking
priest for 50 years before coming to know Christ and leaving the RCC and
they'll all still say the same thing. We see it here all the time." "The 'evidence' [for old earth/evolution] is
extrabiblical or due to a twisting, rewriting and ignoring of what the
Bible actually says. So yes, I reject it." [Emphasis added] "i myself think it's absolutely absurd. no offence
intended 2 anyone of course... but someone who openly accepts
homosexuality and still calls himself a Christian and wants 2 b elevated
in a position of leadership would b like allowing a pedophile to become a
childrens pastor." "Question for athiens... In the apocolipce,
who will you join? God, or Santan? You must chose one, God can give you
eternal life in paradice. On the other hand, join The Beast, and you will
be killed by The Beast itself..." "I can explain to you really easily why so many
scientists don't believe the creationist ideas. It is because of the way
their mind works... It [evolution] makes more sense based on what we can
see, feel, understand. But, I hate to break it to you, but they are
wrong." "Darwin wasn't even a scientist... There are
simply too many gaps in the fossil records to prove Darwinian evolution.
Many scientists today say that Darwins ideas are hypothetical at
best" "I didn't come to start a fight, just to get the
minds working, wow. My point is, as time goes by people are fighting
harder and harder to try to prove evolution. Theoretically as science
continues and knowledge increases, shouldn't it get easier to prove
evolution if its true?" "The calflick church is not christian. They are worse
then atheists cause they do evil disguised in the name of Christ. They are
a pagan church just like the rest of the churches." "Their churches and religions are their gods. They
ask counsel of the dead, they make shrines, they stand up sit down and do
their 'chant chant chant,' light candles, keep the bones of dead people in
crystal balls and containers and reguard them as 'holy', the star of david
is a pentagram, prayer circles are sayonces (or however u spell it), they
build grand temples just like the pagan temples of other religions... on
and on and on it goes..." "All of that shit is from pagan religions. In fact
the calflick church was originally the pagan church of rome, they only
made small changes to their religion to try and make it christian... And
dont forget all the other churches - plentycostfull, looterans, badtists,
methodust, etc etc... all the same BS religions but a little
different." "... and yes I am afraid, that if religion was false,
then why do people worship science, worship man, worship sports, worship
their car, people have a nature, where does this nature to worship come
from???" "... I am not a YEC, but they are right to take the
bible literal and not to make it allegorical because allegory can be used
to justify all kinds of horrendus things" "As for what would happen if God decided to stop
listening [to human prayers]... I believe not much would change. This is
because I believe God is a liberal." "Do you not consider God liberal?... Even if you sin
a thousand times, only repent before the cross and God will forgive all.
Do you not consider that the epitomy of liberality?" "Evolutionists are expert tapdancers, as is obvious
here in this forum. Think about all the people who dedicated there careers
to proving evolution. Are they so willing to walk away from it? What would
it take?" "You assume what you see [in the fossil record] is
correct. Well, last Saturday I watched this guy by the name of David Angel
[sic] (the street magician) literally walk UP the side of a building. I
saw it hapen therefore, he must have really done it, right?" "A minister gave a speech on this recently and it was
that that made me realise why i believed it. I believe the bible is Gods
word because it says it is. I believe it is the ultimate truth etc because
it says it is... I also believe the old testament to be the true inspired
word of God because Jesus himself often quoted from many of the books... I
believ the new testament to be inspired by God because Jesus said the
spirit will lead us to all truth or something like that." "Well actually he used it as deliberately being
circular logic. What i was saying is The bible claims to be the ULTIMATE
authority. For it to be the ultimate authority it must be the final thing
on earth you turn to for the truth. If you, however, need something OTHER
than the bible to prove it to be the ultimate authority then that thing
you turn to is the ultimate authority, not the bible, so the bible
therefore is not what it says it is." "I haven't read the book of mormons but i do know
some LSD's [sic] and i just dont understand how what they say to be true
and correct can co-exist with what is said in the new testament, so
through that i believe the holy bible to be correct and the book of
mormons to not be." "Just a thought. Someone said that 2 guys having sex
doesnt hurt anyone. Well maybe not now, but what if every year, more and
more people become homosexuals... Who on earth is going to keep the
population growing. Its a slow death that will kill the human race... And
thats not gay bashing, just a reality." "Drop the insistance on uniformtism and naturalism
and accept the Biblical account and there are no discrepancies." "I stated yesterday that I will never agree to accept
a view that is contrary to what the Bible says... When Man's views differ
from what God says, man is wrong." "I don't need the Bible to know there's more out
there. Open your eyes look around, the system of nature alone is perfect.
One inch closer to the sun we burn one inch further we freeze." "IMHO the athiest I know personally are very self
centered, close minded, don't want to answer to anyone or anything and
admit what they don't know wont hurt them..." "Knowing there is a God is closeminded towards
atheism? Honey atheism doesn't deserve an openmind." "But what if you are wrong. I know its practically
impossible to prove either way, BUT WHAT IF?" "And yes Christian do believe in discrimination. As
does Christ: [insert verses about casting non-Christians into
fire]..." "Good means complete, or lacking nothing, biblically.
I have yet to see a meaning of [God being] good(biblically) that has
anything to do with any morality, or lack there-of." "You trust the word of God because He tells you to...
He expects obedience. Whether or not thats 'moral' or not, you
decide." [Replying to 'how does one sentience own another?']
"You are asking a moral question. I answered the best I could. God
owns what He says He owns." "We are here for God's pleasure and glorification,
not our own. Until that is understood and accepted, you'll never see why
'morality' becomes a mute concept." [Replying to 'we are God's ego boost?'] "Pretty
much." "I don't think He ever says [He] 'needs it' [ego
boosting]. It is what He desires." [Replying to 'your God is not very appealing'] Of course
not. When everything is going good and great for you in this world why
would you ever need a God? (wink, wink)" [Replying to 'why does power awe you into worshipping?']
"I don't know, it just does." "Good is defined as God's desires and His nature,
anything in opposition to that is considered evil (sin). In other words:
What God desires is good, what God does not is evil." *** Post of the Week for November 23-29, 2003 *** [Replying to 'if God decided that rape good it would be?'] "I think you answered your own question." "I agree, bad answer, but I also don't think there is
a good one." [Replying to 'so God could lie and send all Christians to
hell, and it would be good?'] "Well it seems you have a different
definition of Christian then me. Christians go to heaven. What you have
described is something else. Is it morally good? I don't know. People make
up their own minds about that. Is it absolutely good? Yes, if that is what
God desires." "We can only trust Him as He has commanded, it is the
only choice we have. If we are wrong, we are doomed." "Homosexuality is a filthy, wicked, ungodly,
abominable lifestyle, because the Bible says it is." "Someday you will stand before Jesus and that excuse
will not work either! 'But Lord, I didn't trust the source so it wasn't my
fault for not believing in you.'" [Replying to 'Once you stand before Allah...'] "I
will never stand before a false god." "It doesn't matter what other people say or man-made
doctrines. The only doctrine that matters is that God became a man, lived
among us for 33 years, paid the penalty of man's sin, and rose from the
dead on the third day. If one believes in that, nothing else
matters." "Actually there aren't any atheists in this world.
Only people who say they are atheists. There is a difference." "... the God of the Bible and the Bible itself says
that all humans know He exists. In other words, God and the Bible says
there is no such thing as atheists." "Us Christians know for a 100% certainty God
existents based on the evidence all around us yet their are many misguided
people that believe there is no way possible that you CAN know if God
exists. Too bad so many people don’t have the 100% certainty God exists
that we Evangelical Christians do." [Replying to 'uncertainty over God doesn't strike you as
odd?'] "Not considering how much power Satan has over these
people." "It is not the same [as Hindu beliefs]. We have proof
God exists. Praise God!!!" "When you have seen Jesus face-to-face and he
prevented your sudden and horrible death, then how could you not know?...
When Jesus physically takes you by the hand and takes you out of the pit
of hell (literally)... You guys are wasting your time telling me that the
Christian faith cannot be proven." "It may seem strange but I agree that it [AIDS] is a
punishment from God. Why don't you test it and see for yourself. Be a
homosexual and practice all the evil that God don't want and you will get
your foolish outcome until to your next generations." "A large proportion of the African continent were
sexual perverts and exposed their sexual evils to God. " "How are the 50% of africans contracting AIDS?
Through sharing drinks with each other or sexual relations with each
other? oh also, I realize that now at days they contract AIDS through
their parents and so on, but if you look at the root of it all it was
probably due to fornication." "Whatever happened to the consequences for sin? I
think that those who are sexually promiscuous and contract HIV, or any
other STD as a matter of fact, have heaped that punishment upon
themselves, that is the truth. You ought not to be breaking the
commandments of the Lord, and fornicating, in the first place." "What I am talking about is how the disease originate
or the cause of the disease not the consequences that man do afterwards.
It was caused by sick men who practices evil sexual immoralities amongst
themselves." [Replying to 'AIDS was spontaneously generated by
homosexual sex?'] "It is possible. Our concepts about viruses are
incomplete. One example is how was the first virus originate?" "I already knew about this but the information about
HIV coming from monkeys is a presumption. Sorry about that." "In most cases people dont know they have the virus
until they are tested. It is a punishment for giving something up that you
are supposed to value for your husband." "... I know for a fact you consider their
[creationist] reasoning and claims absurd at best. I'd say because it goes
against the only world view you know. Talkorigins isn't all its cracked up
to be, and I think atheists use it way too much. Its like their security
blanket." "I just think TO analyzes some things way too deep,
and ends up just looking ridiculous. Their arguments are no more convicing
then the ones my biology teacher presented." "It doesn't say how God did it. For all we know, He
teleported the animals there. It's irrelevant. If God can create an entire
universe by speaking, He can certaintly bring some animals to an ark safe
and sound." "I honestly pity your blindness. I can't make you
believe anything though." "I'm not saying might is right, I'm saying God is
perfect, and therefore is the only being in existence who can fairly judge
people. And people are born deserving eternal torture, they are born
deserving spiritual separation from God. And atheists want just that, so
God isn't being cruel, He is just giving you what you want; a place
completely devoid of God and everything good that goes along with Him.
Without love, peace, joy, happiness, rest, fun etc., i'd imagine life
would be pretty torturous." "God assigned sinfullness to humanity long before Christians existed. ( And don't give me that arrog |