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Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
September 2003 Edition
"I dont think that you need to be openly Satanist to
have your posts influenced by Satan." "I believe that witchcraft is real. Before I came to
the Lord I practiced black magic, mind control and transcendental
meditation... All of these powers are linked directly to demonic spirits.
I had actual conversations with demons." "I saw them come out of me when I was being
delivered. The greatest lie the devil has ever told humanity is that he
doesn't exist. Modern witches depend on your ignorance and disbelief. You
may not believe in the powers of darkness but they certainly believe in
you." "I am convinced that modern witchcraft and demonic
activity is around today. When you spend as much time as I do in Utah and
in front of Mormon temples, you come to understand." "A good friend of mine is an exorcist, and if it
doesn't exist then he must be insane. There is no evidence whatsoever of
him being insane, so it must exist." "I think Gary North correctly explains the subject...
witchcraft is humanism come to flower, humanism in its logical
implications." "I know people who were missionaries in Uganda and
said that the demonic forces there were so strong, witchdoctors would fly
thorugh the air... My missionary friends were at the place of a
witchdoctor one time and he, trying to prove his power, laid on a table
and began to float and levitate...The wife walked over to him, put her
hands on him and said 'In the Name of Jesus,' and the man hit the table
with a thud!" "The Word of My God is never wrong. If it is in the
Holy Bible, than it is true. Ain't [no way] any of its wrong. The Bible
and its prophecies are 100% true." "You have evidence of change WITHIN an animal group,
i.e. dingos, coyotes, heanias, & poodles are different 'species' of
dog, but the are all dogs. None of them have bunny ears, webbed feet,
feathers or hooves." "Show me any evidence or observation of one
fundamentally type of animal changing to another." "Lions are carnivorous, they have claws, they hunt,
they have different teeth…and lions only produce other lions. Never a
horse or zebra. ..or a chicken. Your argument here is silly. " "But I guarantee that is [sic] platypus’ were found
in the fossil record before they were found alive they would be the
missing link of duck evolution or something." "Ancient man saw them [dinosaurs], wrote about them,
sculpted them and drew pictures of them because there were still a few
around after the flood. The fact that there are creatures like Loch Ness
in Scotland and Mokele Umbembe in the Congo Swamp shows that the sea
dwelling ones are probably still existing in these unexplored
places." "Keep in mind that I am not up to a vexation with a
person who knows nothing about metaphysics and thinks that life comes from
a stone!!" "But would this make any difference to you now? Would
you worship God if He appears to you? No, you would worship the devil too
when he appears." "I didn’t read what you’ve said in this forum
cause I’m sure that it is all non-sense. Could anyone prove that there
is no God, could you? NEVER." "Not many things upset me on these forums..but the
LIE that homosexual activists like to bandy about that any relationship in
the Bible was a homosexual one really gets under my skin. It's not enough
that you people want to legitimize a perverse behavior in the eyes of the
world..it's not enough that you have to inudate our children with your
sick thinking every day...you have to take what is Holy and good to us and
try and pervert that." "I happen to believe in the principles that American
was founded on. I don't think you have to worry about us ruling the world.
If we fall, it will because we have lost God's blessing, and fallen to the
god of humanism." "I do not even believe in micro evolution. I do not
believe in ANY of man's evolutionary theory. I believe in the Bible, and I
believe in the word of God. I believe that God created each biodiverse
ecology system unique onto itself." "But up to now all you seem interested in is to
obtain knowledge. Not your fault I am sure, that is a lot the way our
education system works in this country." "Hell is a place of eternal torment and suffering.
It's not going to be one big party. It's torment! Your soul will be
burning in the hottest fire there could ever be forerver! It wont end! And
by that time, it'll be too late for you to change your mind." "What a terrible waste of a life. Completely
dedicated to the ULTIMATE **ME**, 'I'm GREAT, I'm WONDERFUL, I have ALL
POWER, there is nothing GREATER than me, and we.'" "If people panic like this over loss of electricity,
just imagine what will happen when the Rapture occurs. Silly people." "I think that we all jump if something is terrorist
related....but we ignore who is really in control. God has probably
stopped all sorts of terror related things, and we haven't even noticed.
We take God for granted." "One thing I've noticed is how pareidolia [see
here] has been used to deny the existence of certain 'miracles'-
seeing Jesus in a bandaid, or finding Allah's name in a tomato. While they
might be just illusions, they might also be true." "A co worker, who is normally very sweet... came off
very stressed with a smart attitude when she was leaving work the other
day... I prayed for her, and asked God to take care of this probelm... I
barely made it home and was in the kitchen when I heard her voice on my
answering machine apologizing for the way she had spoke to me, she'd had a
rough day, etc. I was pretty amazed at how fast that went!" *** Testimonial of the Month *** "I had a very annoying squirrel who had gotten into
my attic somehow... Anyway, I was really worrying about how I was going to
get this squirrel out... I just said oh Lord, what am I going to do about
this squirrel?... Well to my surprise, God answered me and said 'speak to
it and tell it to leave'... I said Squirrel, In the name of Jesus I
command you to take your nest and leave and not return... And do you know
what? I've never heard that squirrel again since... it's gone!" "But on the way back to the motel, the kids did not
fall asleep as we expected. They kept chattering incessently... they kept
saying the word 'motel'... everytime they said it, I got butterflies in my
stomach... We decided the Lord was trying to communicate something to us,
so we... ended up paying the 150 for that nice hotel in the city. I don't
know what the Lord saved us from. But we are convinced that He most likely
saved our lives that night." "Seriously, there have been a number of hysterical
feminists championing much in the evil agenda of the godless. What is
amazing to me is that they actually think that they are on the side of
righteousness. Satan is a powerful deceiver." "I'm still debating whether God has literally three
heads (like the one knight in Monty Python...), or He?They has/Have
scizeophrinia. Not that there is anything wrong with scizos- I think that
would be a good thing for an omnipotent entity- three different opinions
on a single topic." "If you are unsaved and think this whole Bible and
Christ thing sounds stupid - That's what God intended! It's supposed to
sound stupid to you." "If God was found to exist..... How many of you would
be filling your underwear?" [Commenting on a news story about the murder of a 15-year
old girl who tried to stop the sexual advances of an adult by revealing
she was gay] "I can have compassion for the 14 year old prostitute
that is found dead in an alley. And I can still say that prostitution is a
dangerous lifestyle and hope that God will lead others out of it..it's the
same with homosexuality..." "Of course I care about people..I care enough to not
coddle them into hell." "I'm not blaming the victim at all. I'm blaming the
Enemy that led her into this lifestyle that caused her death. It is
possible to blame the person that kills the prostitute and dumps her body
in a garbage can and also blame the fact that she was living a dangerous
lifestyle that made her path cross with a killer. " "Do you blame the person that gets behind the wheel
of a car drunk and plows into a tree and kills themselves? DO you blame
the drug addict that is shot while making a drug deal?" "Yes, I'm disgusted..I'm disgusted by the people that
convinced this child that homosexuality was AOK..the people that didn't
try to lead her out of this lifestyle and into a church." "I NEVER said she deserved to be slain. I said her
lifestyle contributed to her being killed." [Replying to 'How is a young girl's so called 'gay
lifestyle' to blame when she is murdered by a heterosexual man twice her
age?'] "I have EXCUSED no one's death. I have only said that
sometimes our choices in life can lead to our destruction..." "We need to get these people saved and delivered.
This is true. They are puppits of Satan just doing whatever. Her lifestyle
may have caused this becuse the Bible is very clear that the wages of sin
is death." "The virgin birth can't be proven OR disproven, so it
is not illogical to think that it occured (I believe in it)." "Why do they let non-Christians on this forum-all
they do is bother us. Heh, going on a Christian forum to post arguments is
the lowest and is pathetic. Dont get me wrong I still love you crazy
atheists and agnostics." "Its because you hate us and you are rebellious. You
only wish to disturb Christians. Why else would you go on a CHRISTIAN
FORUM? Dont use that lame excuse,'I just want to clear up any
misunderstandings about evolution or blah blah blah!' Were not THAT
stupid, are we?" "Btw someone said that we should pray for War to end
instead [of the Muslims converting]. War is supposed to happen, buddy.
Were Christians, not war-pacifists." "Our society is not Pro-gay I am sure But, we are on
the road to it. Gays are getting more respect(even just a little) if youve
noticed." "Actually, The blacks and Chinese have more respect
than Christians do." "Yes, I do, just as I talk of the gay agenda because
it's quite real, as well... Even the [half-serious] tag line beneath your
avatar (currently 'annihilator of values) , it could be argued, betrays
your own agenda." "The big trouble with the church itself these days
(i.e. gay bishops) is the confused notion that morality is somehow
evolving. True morality is static and unchanging, just like God... By its
very nature, once you start trying to change it, you've dealing in
immorality." "We're not even talking about a racial/ethnic group,
anyway – we're talking about people avowed to practice deviant sexual
behavior. Should we give special rights to those who're thieves as 'sticky
finger' Americans next?" "I suspect there's more to the case [of a pagan girl
committing suicide] than simply [abuse from] 'Christian kids' (i.e. a
history of depression and whatever problems at home drove her to paganism
in the first place)..." "As you've said, you do have some catching up to do.
In a nutshell, there is a homosexual agenda, it's anti Judeo-Christian as
well as anti nuclear family, and the U.N. (infested with both communists
and gays) backs it." "Atheism is the biggest lie ever known to man. It is
the biggest fraud & deception of our time... They are just so far out
of reality it is not even funny." "If you're gay, it's keeping you from knowing the
joys of relationship with the opposite sex, just as God intended. You're
cutting yourself off from conceiving children by natural means, as well. I
could go on, but if you don't see these two as harmful, I pity you." "Homosexuality is definitely immortal, but
that's just the tip of the iceberg." [Emphasis added] "Homosexuals want to lower the age of consent... and
they want Christian and other religious groups' right to free speech
eliminated to 'protect' their (special, over-reaching) rights." "Homosexual behavior is primarily only considered
normal among those who've been converted to homosexuality." "I was unsaved when I saw the D&D movie (which I
recommend Christians avoid for reasons detailed in Galatians about His
feelings on wizards, diviners, necromancers, et cetera)..." "If we're going to give those living the gay
'lifestyle' special rights, we must grant arsonists rights as 'fire bug'
Americans, pedophiles rights as 'pederast' Americans, thieves rights as
'sticky finger' Americans, et cetera. You might as well flush the whole
thing down the toilet." "I'm not proposing (nor would I want) a government
capable of kicking in doors for this kind of thing. That wouldn't be
(what's left of) Constitutional America. Striking sodomy laws from the
books, however, is in effect, saying to God 'we don't care what you think
anymore'.. don't expect God-fearing America to vote 'yes, we (are turning
our backs on our Creator to) support the gay lifestyle'." "No, again, I'm simply trying to keep them from
manipulating the country into a gay oligarchy." "I pray He'll have mercy upon you. I, however, know
that the sodomy laws, as His laws, should remain. They're not hurting
anyone (no matter what those who demand special rights for deviant,
ungodly behavior contend)." "Granted, I have no proof that either of you are
pedophiles, but a majority of child molestors are same-sex oriented...
however: There's been a saying since 9-11, 'not all Middle Eastern people
are terrorists, but most terrorists come from the Middle East.'" "In a nutshell, secular states are organized anarchy
leading, in time, to chaos. They're only a 'society' until degenerates
suceed in accelerating the rate of decay toward their ultimate, tragically
misguided ends." "If you mean, why have no mammals been found in the
Cambrian strata, they must have not lived in there or they did not
fossilize." "That's what happens when you filter the Bible
through moral standards instead of ethical ones." "I believe that Catholic Doctrine is based on
circular logic and cannot stand as sound doctrine." "Groups like the ACLU and the homosexuals have no
clue when to stop, and they're going to dig themselves a hole big enough
to fall into. Sure, damage will be done. The sooner we can put an end to
their mass genocide, the better for all of us, but their reign of error
will end." "Finally, we must also remember that, while God never
changes His mind about any of His moral commands, Satan is all too ready
to step in and deceive people that God does change." "Just a question to ask you: Do you believe in the
Big Bang Theory? I myself think its ridiculous. Whoever thought up this
theory must of been short of a brain" [After being told a Jesuit came up with it] "... the homosexuals do in fact have an agenda. And
that agenda consists of stealing our children and molesting them." "These people are sure pushing this lifestyle in your
face. This is rediculous... Really they dont need this. The homosexuals
just need to find Jesus and become normal as God made them to be." "... just a point of order here. So you know for the
future: I do not play the liberal game of 'Prove it'." "If Jesus chose it, then it can't be torture, Jesus
is more like a s/m kinda guy. God said, if you wanna do some good for
humanity, these are the terms. You don't have to, but if you really want
to do some good... God didn't make him do it." "As Christians, {the other poster} and myself can
actually say that slavery is actually wrong, everywhere and for everyone,
even while recognizing there is disagreement about it." "Being as humans swore at a point the earth was flat
(among other things) I'll continue to ignore any 'conclusions' humans come
to about how anything is/was." "That's right. They must suppress the truth. If the
TRUTH rises to the top we will be teaching Sunday School in our public
school system. That would be a terrible thing for the nonbeliever." "If I valued conformity, keeping in mind that I live
in America, then I wouldn't be a Muslim. I am as non-conformist as they
come. If you are a liberal, then you are a conformist." "I would never say something like that because I
don't want Jews to find me offensive. I don't care if liberals find me
offensive or not. I find them offensive." "... not really that good at science (failed science
test >.< ) but im learning and studying evolution in my free time
when im bored... if populations evolve then does that mean that humans are
suddenly gonna pop out 3 eyes or something like that?" "What is the point of trusting in evolution if you
cant apply it into your own life? Wow you say you proved humans evolved
from apes. so wat. who cares, are you going to evolve into another animal
or something? if not then who cares if we cant apply it into our own
lives." "And i bet that half the poeple that said that
'Darwin didnt die a christian' didnt even to bother reading the evidence
that the site had to give and would just go off to read
talkorigins..." "It is possible that Darwin was Christian; after all,
the Christian faith was much more accepted at the time. He probably went
to church with his parents. It's too bad he became 'educated'." "Your father, the devil, was a murderer from the
beginning. You can be saved by the Lord Jesus. I'm still praying for
you." "Video games are one area where Satan has gained a
lot of control (similar to the domination he used to have in contemporary
music)." "I'm looking forward to the totalitarian dictator
named Jesus. There is equal rights, and then there is what is right in the
eyes of God. Democracy and communism are ways of letting certain kinds of
sin subsist." "hmmm...coincidence on the storm? I think not
!!!!" "Believer 71, Satan is in control of the 1st heaven,
if me can knock the power out and soak all the [10 Commandment]
supporters, he'll reduce the number who are watching on TV, come on
down!" "Real simple solution [to posting Islamic laws in a
courthouse]. Once the judge converts to Islam the judge ain't a judge no
more!" "You'd better watch out, you heathen atheist
socialists! God's watching every move you make." "As for those 'heathen atheist socialists' not being
that bad. I certainly pray that you are taking every opportunity to show
them God's word. If you're not, you're not doing them any favors by
defending them." "i really hope ur joking.... all gay people should be
burned at the steak, let alone married. It should be illegal and anyone
who protests it should get the Death penalty, even if they r strait" "I'm sure alot of you atheists are *close* to your
pets, what if one of you decided to marry it? If we're bending the rules
of marriage for gays, why not cho-mos, incestors, and atheist animal
lovers?? What significance is marriage then??? " "It changes nothing. Unlike atheists, we Christians
are not easily swayed by the opinions and choices of others." "Carbon, raidosmarbon... those are no different than
flying pigs to me. Find me a human millions of years old that can verbally
verify this ageold dino propaganda then I can relate..." "I'm with the folks who say dragon tales are simply
stories about man's victory over the dinosaurs. We know that some
creatures today are capable of breathing fire so why not some of the
dinos?" "The Bible is quite sufficient [evidence] all by
itself that supernatural events happened." "To insist that the gospels are not historically
authentic requires that a double standard be used for determining the
historical authenticity of other documents -vs- the gospels. The bible can
be used to prove the bible." "Bad analogy, the creator of Lord of the Rings would
admit it is a work of fiction. This is not the case with the bible." "In my opinion most scientists know that evolution is
false but will not admit it." "And finally, life itself cannot be explained by
scientists or the medical profession. They haven't the foggiest notion
what makes us ALIVE! They can only explain the physical aspects of living
things... but not the life force itself." "Last night, went off to Borders Bookstore... I could
almost feel a spiritual attack on entering... Body piercing, perversion,
homosexuality, new age mysticism, and worse... BUT, directly accross from
the Christian material, in the Religion section were racks and racks of
books on Witchcraft, spell casting, New Age, and worse... It almost felt
like a Frank Peretti novel, with demons and devils guarding the section,
oppression was palpable. I wonder how many minds are warped and fed by the
readily available, and highly promoted reading material, and why this
material is there in the first place. I mean, money making is money
making, but you have to wonder..." "I too have absolutely abhorred going to the likes of
borders and the likes. I went in on the night the last harry potter was
released, at midnight of course and the feel of oppression was thick.
Everyone dressed as witches, even babies. Made me sick. I will never give
a place that caters to evil my money." "... it does not surprise me in the least that evil
books were sold more then the Bible. That is the way this world is
heading. satan is loving it." "Reading this post [about volcanic eruptions] makes
me think of the bottomless pit that is talked about in revelation. there
could be some kind of beast in one form or another that could be released
from under yellowstone [national park]..." "... with the anti-Ten Commandments craziness going
on in my State Capitol, who's to say we won't get whacked with a powerful
hurricane? If, that is, the monument is forced out, and the Godless
atheists 'win'..." "THEY, the itty bitty tiny infitestimal snotty band
of atheists, deists, and anti Americans, with word processors and left
wing, ideologists in the judiciary have perverted the nation." *** Post of the Week for September 7-13, 2003 *** [Commenting on a news story involving a child born with a tail] "The seeds of Satan are returning!.. Yep. A
full grown tail without fur. Now I have to wonder how these genes got into
the human gene pool since we know that we did not evolve from the
animals." "I think that Gen. 6. and the Book of Enoch explain
in detail what happened [interbreeding with fallen angels]. No oneone
earth can say that this baby is fully human. As Christians we should not
listen to the evolutionists explination that this gene is a result of
evolving from animals." "... these people who lived before the Great Flood
were doing something which caused the Lord to drown them all. They were
creating genetic monstrosities and polluting the human race with Satanic
bloodlines in order to prevent the Messiah from having pure human
blood." "The Bible says that before the Great Flood, human
women married the "sons of God" and they produced GIANTS... That
is where the Greek demigods like Prometheus, Atlas and Titan came from.
The only true account of that tragedy is found in the Book of Genesis
which was written by Moses." "When Adam and Eve died, Satan introduced the theory
of evilution into the world that teaches that man and animals are
genetically related." "He downplayed the story of the creation and fall of
man by the sin of Adam and Eve. Then women began to assume a dominant role
in human affairs. Satan downplayed the command of God that women were to
be in subjection to their husbands." "These fallen angels must have introduced their
scheme as an evolutionary advance for mankind. They promised the women
that if they married and bore their offspring they would not have to be in
subjection to their husbands." "As a result, the world was overrun by half human
half animal genetic monstrosities and God decided to destroy the entire
world except for Noah and his family. The pre-Flood world was a zoological
nightmare... a grypon, a manticore, a ferocious human-headed carnivore
with 3 interlocking rows of teeth, a basilick, a unicorn..." "The Rockefellers own most of the museums... Hidden
away in those museum are records of the past which they do not want you to
know about... they will never show you the bones of GIANT HUMANS which
they have in abundance." "Even if we did regard a new born baby as a demon, at
least we wouldnt slaughter it. Go figure." "the fallen angels made genetic monstrosities. (did
God create man with tails? NO does the bible tell us of the monsters half
human hybrids? YES) " "The more one learns about the ancient knowledge and
traditions, the more it is seen that a spiritual yet physical and galactic
war is behind all the myths, legends, religions and traditions of our
world." "God made it a point when in the bible it states 'As
it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the days of the Son of man'
... FUTURE?? but aren't the days of Noah here again? we are already mixing
rabbit dna with human dna. What is next? the genetic monstrosities of the
days of Noah?" "how do you know it is a birth defect and not
nephelim blood? ... and for those wondering who or what do pagans (and
hindus) religions worship well the book of enoch tells the whole story.
(demon worshippers but they dont know it)" "I got interested on the subject when I saw the movie
'clash of the titans' for the first time... Then i started putting
together the pieces of the puzzle (and it got more interesting as i found
the connections to the pyramids/nazism/creation coverup)" "Wrong Martin, you just have incredible bias towards
anything that might actually throw evolution out the window..." "You just can't accept it because you have too much
pride to possibly conceive that the Bible may be right, and evolutionists
have been wrong all this time..." "Martin has been deceived first hand by satan. This
is exactly how satan works, by getting people to think the way Martin
does. Please people, pray for this guy. His eternal home is drawing near
everyday." "You only make yourself look ridiculous Martin. You
will see one of these days. I guarantee it. Tell satan I said he is a punk
Martin. Im sure he is within an ears shot away from you." [On the Internet Infidels board] "the fact that we are in God's immediate presence in
heaven overrides the feeling of remorse for our [hellbound] loved ones by
an infinite leap... and that's the fact of life eternal and life on earth
... we gain some we lose some...." *** Non-Contradiction Award *** "Great point SK, I dont agree with anyone being
killed for any reason. The ones who killed these people should recieve the
death penalty no doubt." "[Stellar evolution] Is a load... gasses don't create
their own gravity." "Gas in outer space cannot create enough mutual
gravity to 'clump' together. I've never seen 'balls' of fog. Gas
freefloating in a vacuum cannot 'push itself' together to create a star.
Gas clouds in outer space expand... they do not contract." "God can/is proven: Complexity exist and complexity
does not come from chaos (and as long as Entropy remains a convienient,
unproven, unseen, vague theory it will not matter)." "I really like Ann Coulter and would watch if she had
a talk show. I think she's very smart. I agree that she is a bit brash in
her attitude. But come on thats the way you have to be to keep up with the
liberals." [In a poll on abortion] "I voted never ever!!!! Life
is not ours to give or to take. EVER!!!" "I agree NEVER, it's not our 'choice' to make, no
matter the circumstance." "I'm in agreement. A mother can find out her life
will be seriously threatened if she has a child, but if she's a believer
she should leave her life and her baby's in God's hands. It's all about
His will not ours." "If the woman in question is so very deathly ill, as
most people who need heart transplants are, why is she threatening her and
her baby's life by getting pregnant in the first place?" "... why, if she is so ill they are taking the
chances [by having sex]? Yes I realize there are needs in a marriage, but
when it can kill the woman or a baby why take that chance?" "Ignorance or lack of faith in God is no excuse. God
won't take it either. Can you imagine someone trying to explain this one
to God on judgement day? 'Oh well I am sorry Lord but I didn't believe in
you and I didn't think you would protect my life so I aborted my child to
save my own life.'" "Bottom line: Human life belongs solely to God.
Those who take it AT ANY STAGE before He is ready to take it will answer
directly to Him. It doesn't matter if someone else is about to die if that
life is not taken; that person has no right to save their own life and
take the life of that other." [Replying to 'so they would both die'] "Yes. God
would want that to happen before he would want a mother to kill her baby
just to save her own life. It doesn't matter if the baby would die anyway.
God can take a life. It belongs to Him. He could save the woman's life
without her having to kill her baby." "Abortion is plainly and simply blood sacrifices to
Satan - who was a murderer from the beginning. It's just like in the Old
testament when the nations would sacrifice their sons and daughters to
baal... I think God would have destroyed this nation long ago for this
crime if it wasn't for the faithful still within America... (and for the
purpose we fulfill in protecting Israel)." "I am so angry... My son who started his freshman
year in high school is being taught evolution... I explain to him it is
all a man made lie but it still bothers me. Can't christians unite and
take evolution out of school the same way the world took prayer out of
schools or the ten commandments out of court houses?" "I would like to be able to offer you encouragement
about what we can do to get this horrendous lie out of our school systems.
Unfortunately, I can't... I know it's really a radical concept, but have
you considered a Christian school or even home schooling your son?" "You might consider helping him understand HOW its a
lie. Take a look at the average for indoctrination: "While he is learning evolution in school, how about
renting or buying some tapes that teach the truth? Kent Hovind has a
series of tapes... he tells the truth about creation and explains the
biblical facts with scientific evidence." "As some said, they do need to know about it to
understand it's ridiculousness. They know the truth... Our children will
be faced with secular thinking all their lives. I think it's important
to... prepare them for what they'll come across as adults." "Do an experiment. Put four things in front of your
child; say a piece of fruit, a flower, a clam or shrimp, and something
else, say your pet. And ask how all of them could have come about by
accident. Which is what evolution basically says." "Ahh, but who are we fooling?... You're not creating
anything new. But bird's beak changes shape and size... Same bird. But
since allele frequencies do change, therefore the giraffe came from the
fish?" "The site is entitled '29+
Evidences for Macroevolution' but I came away thinking it is a real
misnomer. Though it proposes to be an objective approach to the subject,
it is actually a clever attempt to hoodwink those less knowledgable
readers..." "How do you dress up an idea that makes no sense, get
it accepted as science, and even as a scientific fact? Well it isn't easy.
You'll have to stretch the truth in several different ways. First, and
most obviously, you have to direct attention away from the fact that your
idea is nothing more than handwaving..." "I'm sorry, but you're confusing mythology for
science, but what's new? Next, you'll have to narrow the scope of your
theory. Defending the absurd is hard enough as it is..." "Another trick that comes in handy is to shift the
burden of proof... it never hurts to put'em on their heels by asking them
to falsify our theory..." "Perhaps by some magical process species transform
themselves into other species." "I am convinced that some teenagers have thrown over
their faith because of their inability to please God at this point of
masturbation." "So what do you think about? Your grocery list? Sorry
but I think you and Inspired are lying in order to prove some off the wall
idea that it isn't sinful to masturbate because you aren't
fantasizing." "In another post you said you were a Christian who
became an agnostic. Sorry, I don't buy it... it doesn't work that
way." "What 'valid' proof do you have it wasn't? I don't
have to prove it. The Bible makes it's own claims and it's up to you, the
accuser, to find hard evidence to prove it wrong... Until you can present
some hard facts that the accounts of Jesus are untrue, then your comments
are baseless." "This country was founded upon a loving God. If you
do not believe in God... then you are not part of the solution for this
country, you represent all the bitterness, all the greed, all the
confusion, and all the hate and murder in the streets and schools." "Put God back in school, our nation, and in all
public offices... If they don't like it they will wish they had on
Judgement Day when they face God. All will see him FACE to FACE. That
includes , Athiest,, ACLU. every face on earth." "Our children and teachers need God back in our
schools!! For it is by His grace that we live in the best country in the
world. And, praise God for President Bush..." "WE ARE SUPPOSE TO HAVE RIGHTS TO AND HAVE A FREE
COUNTRY SO I THINK WE SHOULD LEAVE GOD IN EVERYTHING ESPECALLY IN
SCHOOLS" "Back to God...or its death for our Nation!!!" *** Honorary Doublethink Award *** "Our parents taught it [Christianity] to us, and it
is vitally important that our children are taught this , if America is
ever going to continue as a free nation." "In English, it means 'the God of the Holy
Scriptures.' If you are reading 'religion' into that, that's your
problem." "Many states in the early years of our country had
requirements that anyone holding office had to be a Christian. It wasn't
until the courts started reading into the Constitution things that it does
not say that this changed, thus leaving us in the mess we are in
today..." "Because it [secular humanism] is satanic. If that
weren't enough the jokes on their web sites are the worst imaginable. I
mean if your going to have a joke section at least have one or two good
jokes. If I were looking for a cult the joke section alone would kill it
for me." "Helping other people isn't satanic, Secular Humanism
is satanic." "I looked up a site on humanism. I cant believe there
are so many types of it[:] Literary Humanism[,] Cultural Humanism[,]
Christian Humanism[,] Secular Humanism, etc, etc. Man, why is there so
many?" "Why does the left so vehemently hate the Jews? Right
now on Fox news I was sickened by what I saw... when it was Joe Liebermans
turn to speak, the entire crowd started booing... It seems every leftist
message board I ever visited had some band of rejects yelling 'kill all
jews'..." "Basically, the liberals are the ones who are also
atheists... and have no respect for any religion." "And how is that sick? So it was a stupid comment.
You all think Christians are stupid with their beliefs, isn't that equally
sick?" "The THEORY of evolution was de-bunked in 1972 and
the advent of atomic microscopes. Darwin himself said that is a simpole
cel was not simple, had any moving parts, then he himself will claim his
theory false." "I wish they would refute the theory or at least
reasess their stance, because in the meantime, tons of high school and
college students are being brainwashed." "Evolution never was serious science. It was a
philosophy adopted by many who refused to believe in a creator God...they
were too illiterate to see that God made everything and thus had to make
up a story.... but don't expect aethists to beat the door down to join in
the pursuit of real truth. They have too much invested in their lies and
misbeliefs." "Yes, it's been published [and peer-reviewed]...
refer to Genesis, article one in the Holy Journal of Irrefutable
Science." "Students do not do experiments to prove evolution.
They are indoctrinated by a teacher or professor who simply 'tells' them
that evolution is how it all happened. Its a tale spun in a classroom,
similar to the fairy tales one was taught in kindergarten and first
grade." "I'm amazed that nobody has yet mentioned that before
his death, Darwin admitted that his theory was wrong!" "is that the best you can do? Changing the color of
the wool? I wouldn't even call that evilusham. Now, if you can breed that
sheep into something like a moose or something, I might listen." "President Bush says that 60% of Al-Queda is gone,
but he is mistaken, because most of the Muslim world is Al-Queda . There
isn't just a group of terrorists, Islam is the terrorist, as a
whole." "I was wondering if Atheists are attatched to their
dead. If an Aunt dies, does an atheist mourn?" "People who truly do not think for themselves toe a
'party line'. For example, liberals (together with their plantation dupes)
will paul-parrot each other with cliches' and group-think/speak whenever
they have an agenda item needing to be forced on normal people..." "forgot to add... liberals are very touchy..." "We would all be better off beating Tomtoms and
practicing slavery... things to admire. NOT. The native Americans could
have accepted modern society, they chose not to. Wars were fought, they
lost. I guess we have to listen to the stories about the Mexicans being
cheated out of California next?" "To view 'overpopulation' as a problem is really to
claim there is no God, or that the 'god' in which one believes (the
earth?) is too small to meet our needs. Any such (false) 'god' is not
worthy of worship." "The Bible says God flooded the earth, not the entire
world. Too many people concieve that 'flooded the earth' means the entire
world, it doesnt. He flooded the earth in the area he needed to." "How about the Book of Revelation where John clearly
describes Nuclear War?" "Were those scientists there when the Chinese wrote
them? How do they know that they wrote it in 2500BC?" "They are born with a propensity to be homosexual,
just like people are with the propensity to be a liar, alcoholic,
aggressive, etc, but I don't see people justifying people like
that..." "The same Christ that said the old law is gone?" [Later] "I didn't say He came to abolish it." "Ten commandments are not Christianity, I can tell
you that... The fact is the ten commandments don't belong to any religion.
I believe Muslims use the OT too right? Maybe it's muslim?" "No, the point is that the ten commandments are not
specifically Judeo-Christian, nor are they establishing a religion.
Therefore it is not unconstitutional." "I'm not sure because I don't think I could ever
completely lose my faith that there is a higher purpose in this world.
It's kind of hard to think about something that you know is
impossible." "And I said yes it is possible to create a morality,
but the real question is why should I follow your morality, why is your
morality the right morality if there is no higher responsibility?" "I don't see how that is relevant to the topic. I
wouldn't say that MY morality is the right one, but that my God's morality
is the right one. Why? Because He says so. You may not like the answer,
but that is the only one I've got." "Ok, Troylus, if I truely believed that there was no
God, and no afterlife then I would do whatever I wanted whenever I wanted.
If killing someone will make me happy then I would, raping? Sure. Handing
out hundred dollar bills to everyone? Why not? If I wanted to follow some
arbitrary morality then I might, maybe I wouldn't, who knows." "With no higher responsibility, sure you can. That is
what I've been saying. If my ethics say it is ok to kill, rape, and
pillage, then who is to say I'm wrong?" "I would much rather that those who don't believe in
a higher responsibility create these morals(flawed as they may be) then to
take their beliefs to their logical conclusion. The scariest thing in the
world is someone who takes atheism to its logical conclusion." "That in the end NOTHING matters, so why should what
we do right now matter." "All your theories are fine and dandy, but just admit
that there would be nothing wrong with killing all the homeless, all the
starving in third world countries, all those on welfare, all those who are
supported 100% by others if there is no God or Creator or some type of
higher responsibility." "Don't be desived, Creationism IS a scientific
theory. True, some Creationists blindly follow because the Bible says. But
others, look at the facts; the evidance." "I am a Christian. My mind is closed to falsehood. A
falsehood is anything that contridicts my belief. If you show me where in
the Bible it says evolution occured I will become an evolutionist. That is
the only way I will ever become one." "You see Gothic, you have committed idolatry, you
have painted this picture in your mind that God is loving kind." "Man has come up with this model that states the sun
is the center of our soloar system. It has also stated that all of the
planets revolve around that sun. How do we know, CONCLUSIVELY, that this
is true? I know that's what we have accepted, but what if the earth REALLY
IS the center of the universe?" "Chimps know they are ugly and just accept it... Many
representatives of the mammal realm are quite pleasing to look at,
including man. The apes on the other hand just didn't get a lot of what it
takes to look beautiful.......ugly as an ape is fairly accurate." "What in the world is a woman doing on the pulpit
search committee? Why is it not the men who are deciding. Since when did
God give that kind of authority over to the women?" *** 'Silliness in Sexism' Prize *** "is it right for men to post in forums moderated by
women? isn't this an example a of lady having authority over a man? how
about in a christian forum? should a christian lady exercise authoiry over
her brothers in this way?" "i don't know, maybe there shouldn't be any female
managers, along with all the other things you described. at this point i
personally wouldn't take a job under the direct authority of a female
manager." "good point. should i move?" "from my current understanding of scripture, i think
a woman is wrong to be a policeman, since obviously that involves
exercising authority over men." "i do not believe that god willy nilly overrides the
principle of female subjection and i wouldn't accept a lady's word for it
without irrefutable supernatural confirmation..." "I have to admit I have zero tolerance for Barney and
when someone in a Barney Suit at a local mall got beaten up by a crazed
parent I wasn't very sympathetic..." "Teletubbies are the work of satan. There is
no parental guidence on that show and it is true about the upside down
traingle. The triangle itself is an occult symbol representing the 3 basic
elements of witchcraft 'earth, wind and fire.' The upside down traingle is
also a voodoo sex symbol as well as now being a gay pride symbol." "Stormhawke, you can believe as you wish, but that
web-site exposes the works of satan. Those symbols were not put there by
coincidence. They have occultic meanings and those who put them in, knew
what they were doing." "The reason why the devil aims so hard at children is
because they are very vulnerable since they don't know these things." "... of course a toddler isn't going to know what
these symbols mean. These symbols are of the occult and serve a purpose
for being there. No-one put them there just to make things look good and
whoever put these there, knew what they were doing." "I often log onto that site to do research myself.
There are links to expose the works of satan such as Harry Potter,
Pokemon, Veggie Tales, Role playing games,etc." "Why would a former witch and satanist(steven
Dollins) mention this as well as expose Harry Potter, pokemon, Video games
such as Blood Omen:Legacy of Kain, Final Fantasy4, Hexam, Doom and
Quake." "Many christians are blinded to the devices of satan.
I was too, but God has opened my eyes and now I know the truth about many
things and how it's associated with the occult. The devil doesn't want
people to know his devices and has tryed to stop me from exposing him
through persicution, but I will not allow that to stop me." "... the Lord has taught me to be able to discern and
has given me knowledge about these type of things. Those at these kind of
sites are annointed by God, and wouldn't just make this all up." "Also, you should ask The Holy Spirit to give you
discernmemt about the Veggie Tales and other stuff as well. If you really
are seeking the truth, The Holy Spirit will reveal it to you." "I used to be ignorant of satan's subtle and hidden
devices, but God has opened my eyes to so much. God has revealed to me
about these holidays [Christmas, Easter] having occult origins. I no
longer get engaged in these holidays now that I know the truth about
them." "I am getting annoyed over the fact that satan send
his agents to this christian forum to devour the truth and make anyone who
stands up for truth, look like fools. They persicute us on these forums
and try to make us look like idiots." "I had a dream where there was this little girl... I
felt fear for some reason and all of a sudden her neck snapped. Then a
deep voice from all angles said, 'And this proves the existance of god'.
It freaked me out quite a bit. I've had things happen to me throughout my
life that confirm my beliefs in a higher conciousness." "why does the universe bother to exist, or why it
came into existance? We all know how.Conclusively show me that without the
existance of God and I'll believe that there isn't one." "The 'therory' of evolution is so full of holes it
has to constantly revised and changed, it is based on the teaching and
'scientific' ravings of a man even evolutionist dont believe any more.
That would be equivilent to a Christian saying, I am a Christian, but I
dont believe in Christ." "I am not the one that has based my beliefs on the
writtings of a madman, you and your people are the one that made him' the
Father of Evolution' not me. To me he is the father of one of the biggest
travesties of history. And again yes he stole his ideas, and took credit
for them..." "The therory of evolution IS based on Darwins written
therories, and yes motive is ALWAYS a factor when someone says or writes
some... If you hate God and you set out to prove he doesn't exist, yes
your motives color you findings. For you to say other wise is a feeble
attempt at getting away of the facts." "Darwin, was the same, his beliefs and writting were
also clouded by his beliefs , in his sick mind and his intense hatred for
God, and yes he had a intense hatred for God stated by him,both publicly
and in writting, and it makes no sense to hate something that doesnt
exist, so he must have known God existed." "He didn't provide a 'mechanism' for anything, he
hated God, and he set out to dis prove God... He stole ideas from others
and twisted them into a therory that has no scienticfic proof, and is just
another branch of religion, weither you worship tree elves, God, the
starts or the big bang..." "You can do your drugs and cheat people and lie and
steal and kill,(not you personnely) and do what ever you like because we
are only a product of an accident, with no future. Dis-belief in God is a
perfect compliment to a Hedonistic lifestyle, and you will grasp at any
proof to keep God and morality away.It makes perfect sense." "This belief fits in with your lifestyle so you cling
to it at all cost, even if it means ignoring evidence and ideas that
conflict." "Please stop using 'technical' terms to make your
agruement sound convincing, its not. It is not porportionial in
anyway." "I think you mean erroneous thinking, not fallacious,
(stop using big words you dont know what they mean)..." "... fallacies are based the the latin base of
'deciet'. Erroroneous is based on mistakes. The problem is that you dont
know which big words are interchangable and are using them to impress
instead of educate, thats the problem" "... you have not done any scientific investigation
yourself, you have chosen to believe in the priests and the prophets of
evolution, that are constantly proving themselves wrong but keep trying to
prove the same therory. If there was proof, it wouldnt be a
therory..." "If you actully believe the theory is close to the
facts, tell me, is it monkeys, rats, or 'sea apes',( yes people, 'sea
apes' are the latest creatures now being proposed [as our ancestors]
because of the problems with the therory)." "Do the recent studies in the Antartic prove that the
release of Carbon is NOT constant, if this is true carbon dating is gone
and with it most of the evolutionary dating." "In fact, selective breeding is proof for
Creationism, not evolution, because it does not happen naturally, and it
can't happen naturally. You put a donkey and a horse togehter for years
and nothing will happen, but in steps a ' intelligent force' and we get a
Mule, but it took that intellegent force to do it." "Patially true... once a theory is proven it becomes
a fact, you statment [that they're never proven] is like saying there is
no such thing as tomarrow, because it never comes... Chemistry is not a
theory, it is the study of chemical reactions... [which] are pretty easy
to prove." "We switched from man coming from monkeys to we are
now just a common ancestor, because they were totally wrong, and now they
are not even sure of that..." "And yes it would be nice if you could furnish a
cow/shark, but we would also be happy with a trans species monkey, pig,
rat, mouse, anything, take your pick , a transpecies anything." "I dont tell my students everything, but give them
reading assignments... It is so you learn and while your at it might
actually learn something else along with the subject." "I guess you need to go back to Popular Science
magazine where the cater to the idiot mentality, maybe a copy of
'"Science of Dummies'..." "Your problem, which also explains the way you
believe, is that you have never done any indepth, and I mean really
indepth research into the subject..." "When we got to the [Mexican] border, it was raining
and really gloomy outside. I prayed for some sunshine for the duration of
my stay in my mom's hometown. When we finally did get there, it was sunny
and the sky was blue with only a few clouds. It stayed that way until the
day I left. That morning, it began to rain and the sky became cloudy
again. There isn't any rational explanation I can offer as to why this
happened, but it did happen." "Prove to me that He does not exist. Use all of your
college education, mathematics and resources to prove to me that He is not
there. But, no logic! Only facts! Bare, undisputable facts." [In reply to 'So you want a theocracy?'] "YES! and a
monarchy, too, with Jesus as King! Personally, I don't give a rip about
our constitution, equal wealth distribution, civil rights, equal rights,
etc. All I care about is Jesus. This life isn't about us; it's about
glorifying God, and how someone feels about his/her place in our society
doesn't interest me." "Ah yes, Internet Christian bashing. All too common.
What a joke of a website, I think the KKK has a less hypocritical and
ignorant one." "Excuse the Hebrews for not going to the local
O.B.G.Y.N [before pegging a woman as an adulteress]. The Philistines
didn't even require a test. All that was needed was a mere testimony of
one person against a women for punishment to be served. Blame this on man,
not a man." "Hovind has his facts straight! & he is a master
at showing just how rediculous Evolution theory really is; it is amazing
how absurd it really is once a person learns to think for
themselves." "WOW!! Hovind is decimating the evolutionists again!
Stunning it is the intelectual dishonesty of these folks. Evolution is a
total fraud, unquestionably!!!!" "You sir are simply running from the Truth; Evolution
is simply your convenient excuse to deny God. Your attacks & choice to
believe the imposible over the Truth proves it so." "I was under the impression that they were both
likely in Hell. It's not like Gandhi was perfect anyway." "I've said it once and I'll say it again. The answer
to low self-esteem isn't high self-esteem. The answer to low self-esteem
is no self-esteem. My value is in Christ, not in myself. Apart from Him,
I'm nothing." "I'm wondering what power satan has on earth. I know
he and his crew have power to 'possess'... I'm thinking though, that
satanic power does not include direct manipulations in the physical realm.
For instance, causing storms." "What are you talking about? don't you know that
Satan is alive an well in our world. It doesn't take much to see that,
just go to your local porn shop." "I believe that President Bush relys on faith in
Jesus to protect America from such an attack." "Rather [sic] or not all diseases would be eradicated
if people knew and believed the truth about Satan I do not know. I believe
that it is possible. However, this I am sure of, that a huge, significant
percentage of the diseases people suffer from today would not exist.
" "I have a very hard time understanding why there is
such a mess about... the pledge of Allegiance. Could it be that we just
need to take action and tell the 14% [non-believers] to sit down and shut
up?" "The Bible doesn't say what happens to babies who
die, whether born or unborn.... the fate of dead babies is not your
concern. All we know is that God will act justly towards them." *** Post of the Month for September 2003 *** "I don't get it - he killed a baby killer. So? Why is
everybody so upset with him?" "Would you kill a Nazi guard as he was about to
murder a group of jewish children?" "But it's ok to kill millions of innocent unborn
humans in the womb! Yep - your outage is well placed!" "Did I violate some secret liberal political
correctness code?" "Who gives a rip about your respect? The fact that my
little silly question cause such outrage, while the killing of millions of
innocent unborn causes no such rage in the secular world just proves my
point. You guys are morally sick..." "... he was in no way blasphemous, you're just using
that word to make this sound like a terrible thing he did. 'God have mercy
on his soul' ? please just stop, you speak as if this was a deciding
factor in his salvation, which he has already gained so Paul Hill was seen
as perfect tonight when he walked through the gates of Heaven, into his
new home." "Mr. Hill has commited a criminal act in the eyes of
the law of man and will pay the ultimate price with his life -- but he
feels it is worth it because there is a war against abortion and he has
picked up arms. If what he has done is 'morally' wrong, then so was the
Revolutionary War for it was fought over much less than the killing of
innocent children." "Aaahh, but if we saw individual #1 kill individual
#2 who was about to dismember a seven-year old, would we not praise
individual #1 for his actions??" "Americans took German lives to defend English,
Jewish, and Russian lives. Was this justifiable in the eyes of God? Does
it require that all the soldiers repent to enter Heaven?" "CBK, at least your here showing some reason... if
abortion is murder then violence is justified, legal or not... " "I wonder if he lived in 1850 and visited the South
and saved a slave from being executed for doing no wrong, what would be
the view of this man? Hero to most abolitionists. Criminal to supporters
of slavery and purists of law." "However, who really knows if God did not use Hill to
bring judgement upon this abortion doctor? It is documented in the Old
Testament that God sometimes uses people(s) to instrument his wrath upon
others." "Granted, Hill should not have done what he did, but
I am not surprised with what he did... Was he looney? No. Just
different." "Ever notice that when Daniel killed the giant that
it was a gruesome event? Was this justified in the eyes of God? I mean,
Daniel cut the man's head off!" "I agree his is no martyr to me. But, I do not see
him as a hypocrite. He is not against violence in general, he is against
violence to those who can not defend themselves." "Not ALL Prolifers adhere to the definition that
'Prolife means to be for life.' Some, as I do, wear the term prolife as it
applies to the unborn children.... Not to criminals that deserve death for
the abominable deeds in which they have commited." "I and a large number of people support protecting
the unborn and killing those who commit acts that justify execution." "This just shows me how easily a 'Christian' can act
as a pagan and do as Hill has done." "But, it's different. The [September 11, 2001]
hijackers served a false god and they were not killing in defense of
innocent life." "... IMHO even though all sin is the same, murder is
one of the worst..." "What matters to God is eternity. Evil people
(homsexuals, etc.) destroy souls. Killing just destroys flesh. Killing
flesh to save souls is always good (spare me the kneejerk replies, stick
to logic)." "TIME TO STOP THINKING AND START ACTING!!" "I'm personally glad that this guy does this. His
website will remain long after websites like Rapture Ready are shut down
by the AntiChrist." "NO PUBLICITY IS BAD PUBLICITY is what I believe and
I believe the more you give something Publicity the more you get to the
Truth of what that something is." "I mean are you guys thinking... sure species change
within their own kind but I wouldnt say we evolved from a rock and yes if
you get to the core of the evolutionary theory thats all that junk
is." "Why is rape on the rise? The Bible talks about the
lust of the eyes and the lust of the flesh. And believe me, women, young
or old, are asking for trouble by encouraging rapists to fulfill their
lust of the eyes and lust of the flesh by baring their bodies to
extremes." |