The only reason teens have sex like they do is because they know they can get an abortion and have it be done with. If that were taken away and abortion clinics shut down, do you honestly think that teens will continue constantly having sex, knowing that if they get pregnant they won't be able to get rid of the child? Again, if abortion is illegal, it will not stop abortions, but it will cut them down dramatically.
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Abortion has been around for well over 2,000 years. It wasn't invented in 1973. Older doctors who trained before Roe v Wade can remember hospital wards filled with patients recovering from botched abortions, and those were the lucky ones.
do you honestly think that teens will continue constantly having sex, knowing that if they get pregnant they won't be able to get rid of the child?
Umm, that's an emphatic yes. The biological imperative to mate, and as often as possible, is fucking strong.
And what was the commonest way of a young man in the 50's to propose to his girlfriend?
"You're WHAT!"
Everyone knew that a eager young bride could do in seven months what it took a happily married woman nine.
Teenagers having sex is nothing new, and it has nothing to do with the availability of birth control, sex education or abortion.
Yah, right.
Nobody had sex until abortion existed? What the fuck kind of fantasy world do you live in?
Stupid, stupid, retarded and wrong.
It doesn't take much for anti-choicers to come out and explain their real motivation: they wish sex was more dangerous than it is, because perhaps that way other people would also fail to get laid.
I just can see the repressed teens at Teens-for-Christ ending up in an irreparable state of sex-envy, sublimated by conducting anti-choice actions for the rest of their lives.
Dude, abortion has nothing to do with it. Everybody wants to fuck teenagers, but the only ones who can are other teenagers, so it would be a shame to waste the opportunity.
The only reason teens have sex is because they can. No teen thinks, "Hey, we can have sex because she can just go get an abortion when she gets pregnant!"
Stats bear it out: when you teach "abstinance only" sex-ed, the percentage of teen pregnancies, STDs, and abortions go up. Yet the idiots that want to turn every abortion clinic into a smoking ruin are the same idiots who want birth control outlawed.
There is only one way "abstinance-only" works: when you terrify the teens into brutal submission. The easiest way to do that, of course, is to brainwash them about Hell and sin and to convince them over a period of years that their bodies natural functions and desires are filthy, immoral, and wrong. That's not a recipie for morally upright adults; that's a recipie for screwed up adults incapable of dealing with an mature relationship.
Face it. Teens are going to have sex. It doesn't matter how strongly you forbid it, or how much information you withold, or how many scary consequences you threaten them with. Herpes hasn't stopped teen sex. AIDS hasn't stopped teen sex. Unwanted pregnancies hasn't stopped teen sex. God hasn't stopped teen sex.
I know that if I had a son, then I would damn well rather he have a condom than a kid at 16. That one's a no-brainer.
In the years befor WW2, most teens were sexualy active. But also most teens were already married.
By delaying marriage untill people are in their 20s and 30s, Western socioty has created an unnatural condition of unmarried, educated, WEALTHY, adults.
But teenaged people are still driven by the urge to mate.
"Again, if abortion is illegal, it will not stop abortions, but it will cut them down dramatically."
That is absolutely true. Poor women won't be able to travel to where abortion is legal, so many of them will give birth. However, making abortion illegal will also increase the number of deaths and injuries from homespun or "back alley" abortions. even if one is against abortion, is that really a good trade?
rebelEnigma, how many unwanted babies have you adopted so far?
"Again, if abortion is illegal, it will not stop abortions, but it will cut them down dramatically."
If abortion becomes illegal, every conservative in the US will be subjected to post birth abortions.
That is absolutely true. Poor women won't be able to travel to where abortion is legal, so many of them will give birth. However, making abortion illegal will also increase the number of deaths and injuries from homespun or "back alley" abortions. even if one is against abortion, is that really a good trade?
As far as these people are concerned, Papabear, yes, it is. Remember - women need to be punished for sex, and babies are God's intended punishment. If a woman attempts to evade that 18-year sentence, she deserves the actual death penalty, according to many of these people.
If that were taken away and abortion clinics shut down, do you honestly think that teens will continue constantly having sex, knowing that if they get pregnant they won't be able to get rid of the child?
... yeeeeees. Was that a trick question?
The only reason teens have sex like they do is because they know they can get an abortion and have it be done with.
No. They have sex because it's a powerful natural need that all normal human beings have, unless they're missing some hormones.
do you honestly think that teens will continue constantly having sex, knowing that if they get pregnant they won't be able to get rid of the child?
Absolutely. This is an unbelievably naive attitude. Fear of pregnancy has never been much of a deterrent to sex.
Um... no, see... teenagers have sex. It's what they do. Many will do it whether or not they have a condom. I'm not sure if you've ever been a teenager yourself, but we have incredible sex drives, and that means a lot of us will decide that we need sex as soon as it's available, and to hell with the consequences.
Hardly anybody thinks, "Gee, I wish abortions were legal. I guess I'm not gonna have sex," right in the heat of the moment. Have you ever been laid in your life?
Hate to tell you this, but teens have been shagging since WAY before abortion clinics existed.
And if you take away legal abortion, the really irresponsible ones will just do it the illegal way - and likely die in the process.
Is that what you're advocating, rE?
"If that were taken away and abortion clinics shut down, do you honestly think that teens will continue constantly having sex, knowing that if they get pregnant they won't be able to get rid of the child? Again, if abortion is illegal, it will not stop abortions, but it will cut them down dramatically."
You're incredibly stupid. Yes, teens will have sex. Like it or not. Educating teens about contraceptives and STD's will teach them to be responsible for their actions. As well as decrease the teen pregnancy rate, which will decrease the need for abortions. But you don't get that.
"The only reason teens have sex like they do is because they know they can get an abortion and have it be done with"
Yes, not because it's fun, not because everybody else is doing it, and certainly not to piss off their parents.
I know the only reason I have sex is so my girlfriend can get an abortion. We love them! It sure beats a movie!
Also, teenagers, like criminals, don't think of the consequences when they're doing what they do. This is why abstinence-only sex ed and the death penalty are shitty deterrants.
It'ss also why this is the dumbest shit ever.
Damn! I wish I was still a teen so my girlfriend and I could get abortions. Christ almighty, rebelEnigma, do you live among people? The only reasons teens have sex are the same reasons adults have sex. It feels good and sex satasfies biological urges.
The only reason teens have sex like they do is because they know they can get an abortion and have it be done with
Really? It's not because they're horny?
If that were taken away and abortion clinics shut down, do you honestly think that teens will continue constantly having sex, knowing that if they get pregnant they won't be able to get rid of the child?
Yes. They'll just leave their babies in trash cans.
Again, if abortion is illegal, it will not stop abortions, but it will cut them down dramatically
No, we'll just have more back alley abortions and babies in trash cans.
Two words: estradiol and testosterone. Look them up.
Or just blame God for not tweaking our maturation rate in step with social needs. After all, if he created us, he still has the blueprints somewhere, so minor adjustments ought to be trivial.
If you try to take after abortions as a form to combat teenage sex, you know very little about abortions, Teenagers, sex...and your local drug store.
If you don't wanna have babies, it's called a CONTRACEPTIVE, not GET RID OF IT AFTER THE FACT!
Teens will still have sex. Teens had sex long before abortions were a reasonably safe, medically researched and ethically legislated practice. They will continue to do so regardless of whether or not abortion is legal. The difference is, with abortion rendered illegal, they will instead rely on non-medical methods, endangering their own lives. Abstinence is ineffectual. Sex education, prophylactic methods, disease prevention, and as a last resort, absolute last resort, after all reasonable precautions are taken and failed, abortion.
Hint: Stop fighting birth control, sex ed, and vaccination, you bleeding idiots! Those measures -reduce- abortion!
Oh, wait. You bear the title 'rebel' because you just have to fight something. Right, carry on in your little Dark Ager nonsense.
Teens are by nature horny, and will have as much sex as they can.
If they receive proper sex ed before they turn horny, they will know how to protect themselves from unwanted pregnancies and won't need to have any abortions.
No contraceptive method is 100% foolproof, though (least of all "abstinence-only"), and accidents will happen.
It's not really in the best interest of a child to let it be born to a couple of children who won't be able to take care of it, emotionally, economically and educationally.
You people seem to think it's a piece of cake to have an abortion. For 9 out of 10, it's a very difficult decission, and many of them live with a piece of guilt afterwards, which will make them be even more careful not to become pregnant at the wrong time again.
Before we had legal abortions in Sweden (which came in 1938), we had women who were called "angel-makers", who were paid to foster kids. Suddenly the kids died, of some unspecific cause.
Isn't it better to remove the tiny embryo, before it grows any nervous cells, than letting the kid be born and THEN kill it?
"I don't support abortion. I could never participate in one. But I think it would be a mistake to make them illegal again. What criminalization will do is force women into garages and back alleys, and then you're going to have two lives in jeopardy. My mom, who was a nurse, used to talk about the messes that would come in after back-alley abortions went wrong. The way to stop abortion is to deal, philosophically and spiritually, with the people who get them." - Jesse Ventura
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