O.k...I have got to pose a question that has been heavy on my heart...since the whole ME outbreak a week ago...how do we go on our about our normal day to day stuff and plan for the future knowing that there is a good chance that we are not going to be here??? I find myself not planning like I used to...I would plan for things to do throughout the year and goals that I wanted to do...but I have foregone all of those...which is fine....but the thing that gets me is that I am being selfish...I want a baby...do we start the adoption process hoping that HE does not come until that pt.? Or do we not, and enjoy our life until the rapture? I know that we are supposed to live as though He is coming at any moment, but to plan and like it will not be for many more years....I have come to realize that our time on this earth is fleeting, and I am cherishing every moment that I have with my husband and family—.I know that things will be A LOT better in heaven and I can’t wait to see everything—.but what am I supposed to do about my desire to be a mom? Persue? Or just realize that it probably will not happen and live the rest of my life with that?
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Ah, the joys of brainwashing religion. Clearly, this woman would be much happier as an atheist, or at least, not a fundie.
What does that mean, "Live as though He is coming at any moment, but plan like it will not be for many more years?" How do you do that? What is this crazy dogma that the fundie ministers are forcing on their poor, unfortunate, sometimes simpleminded followers?
And why is it always "He's coming soon! But we don't know when! It may be a few more years, but we won't tell you how many!"? Are they just trying to keep their followers in a state of confused dependence?
I loved this response by a poster named Transformed:
"As far as pets being left here, I have a sign posted on our front door: "In the event of natural disaster or The Rapture, please rescue ..." I have a description of our 2 dogs and 2 cats, and on the reverse side are phone #s of my parents and a friend that I suspect will still be on this earth after the rapture. I figure that, just as it was after Katrina, there are groups of good-heart people going around finding all the abandoned animals. It'll probably be the same after the rapture."
It's hard not to laugh at this.
It's harder to keep from crying.
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. Those should be the watchwords of our rapture-enraptured friends.
Oh, that and don't hold your fucking breath.
"Or just realize that it probably will not happen and live the rest of my life with that?"
On the basis of this one portion tacked on at the end of the post, I downgraded this post from a 5 to a 4 in my rating. She obviously has a grain of doubt about the rapture, which is always worth encouraging.
~David D.G.
Oh, I hope whatever adoption agency she is planning on going through reads this post and find out who she is! Maybe someone there with logic will be sitting with a rubber stamp ready to print 'RETARDED' on her application.
Sadly, religious belief tends to improve ones chances of being approved to adopt a kid, at least in the U.S..
Dear Confused,
In these trying times, it really can be hard to sort out what you should do and what you should plan for.
I would be glad to help you out for a small price. For just $100 per week, I will send you complete guidance and advice for the upcoming week ahead. Rest assured that this way you will know within one week of when the rapture will come (and even if you'll be in it!), and you can go about your normal life until then.
Sincerely,
MK
I, as well, find this sad. Just sad. Confused, please do cherish your time on earth, because it is fleeting, but not because the rapture is imminent, but because this is all the time and life you'll ever have.
David D.G., I read this as a belief that her desire to be a mom will not happen because the rapture will come too quickly.
Definately do not have children. If you're incapable off functioning with the thought of the crapture on your mind, how in the world would you be able to function with the thought of the crapture and a child to care for?
Magpie -- That's great. The Fundies don't think that we're worthy of eternal paradise, but think that we should be counted on to care of the beloved pets their asshole "God" won't let them take with them.
Sungrazer #61578
David D.G., I read this as a belief that her desire to be a mom will not happen because the rapture will come too quickly."
Ah, I see. The word "it" in that final sentence didn't seem to have a clear antecedent to me earlier, and I guess that because of my own viewpoint filtering things, I gave her the benefit of the doubt. But now that you mention it, I think you are probably correct in your interpretation: She isn't doubting the rapture in the least.
~David D.G.
please, for the sake of the child, keep waiting for that rapture and don't adopt. I mean, what if you got raptured and your l'il tot was left with your hungry dogs and cats? Hmmm?
Confused? Appropriate name.
1. Don't bear or adopt children, too many are already fucked up by fundyism.
2. There have been many ME (I am assuming you mean "Middle East" outbreaks in the past, and, I am sure, many in the future.
3. If I were you, I would start drinking heavily. Reality is beyond your grasp, so you might as well be buzzed.
@Magpie, I love that bit you posted. Priceless. I love how she says the note is addressed to people she figures won't be raptured away.
Though I understand most of you saying that this is sad, I definately see that, I cannot stop laughing.
It has gone so far beyond sad that it's funnier then a clown on fire.
there are groups of good-heart people
Is this an admission that it is possible to be good and not be a christian? Is this an admission that these good people will nontheless be 'left behind' and thus condemed to Hell? This is a malignity on the part of that 'All-Loving' God.
I feel compassion for this woman. Perhaps because I've been where she is at one point, I don't know. I can't write people off like this because then I'd be doing it to myself, and I'd like to think that I've grown significantly since those dark days of my life. There's always hope and it is attainable to anyone.
This is a clear example of why religion is so dangerous. Yet, in Murka people can be discriminated against for questioning it.
I really feel sorry for this woman. She's been tricked into believing that life is worthless and will soon be replaced by something better; that life is merely a bus ride to a wonderful other place. Not only that, but she is throwing away her future because she's been tricked into believing that she doesn't have one.
Incidentally, isn't the entire "rapture" idea from the Left Behind books, which were written fairly recently? Religious blather alone is one thing, but Rapture Ready is essentially a group of people waiting on line for the boat to take them to the West and away from Middle Earth.
By the way, was Lord of the Rings written before or after Left Behind?
Also What was the name of the place in the West that Bilbo ends up sailing off to? I'm thinking something along the lines of Gray Havens, but I never read the books in their entirety. (GASP!)
There have been holy wars in the Middle East for Kevin knows how long (where Kevin is any random entity that doesn't know nothin' about nothin'). The first N times didn't trigger the Rapture, why would this one?
<<< Also What was the name of the place in the West that Bilbo ends up sailing off to? I'm thinking something along the lines of Gray Havens >>>
I think the Havens were the place the ship sailed *from*. They sailed to the Undying Lands.
@Crosis
I think the Havens were the place the ship sailed *from*. They sailed to the Undying Lands.
Oops. I guess I get half credit, or something.
Those of the suicidal who plan their deaths exhibit exactly the same symptoms: "Why should I need to play for the future when I'm going to die on Saturday?"
Applied to a larger scale, it's a very dangerous way of thinking. One can for example say, "why would we stop global warming when the Earth is going to be destroyed by the Rapture in less than 50 years anyway?". It eliminates an important part of society: Long-term planning.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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