People with faith are better than Athiests. Imagine our goverment full of Athiests, than means, that could give a shit less about other people's lives knowing after they die, no punishment will come to them because nothing will happen in the after life.
Our goverment, believes in god, they know they better do their best or try to do good and prevent evil because they know in the after life, the stuff they did in life will be held against them with God.
Yeah sure, the middle east has problems with turning their faith upside down. The true meaning of this is poverty, 3rd world countries which leads to voilence. If there wasn't faith in the middle east, terrorist would find somthing else as an excuse for killing vicitims.
I believe god is no longer giving physcial proof on purpose, he is testing our civilization, seeing if we a worthy enough to stick on his side even though the phsyical proof has no longer to be seen in ages. God knows we have advanced in many ways knowing that giving us Phsyical evidence would be too easy for him to get the non believers to jump back on the God Bandwagon.
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I'm not an Athiest, but I have a sneaking suspicion that a government full of Athiests might actually have better morals than a Theistic government simply because they would be doing the right thing because it is right, not because they're trying to escape punishment or recieve some reward.
Actually, I'd say that atheists would be distinctly more likely to be morally superior to people with faith, because the people with faith frequently have this notion that whatever they do in this life, and no matter who might suffer for it, they will be forgiven and will get to go to heaven simply because they believe that they believe in God the RIGHT WAY. (How many times have you seen one of those smug bumper stickers -- "Not perfect, just forgiven"?)
David and Tara, I would further add to that what my fundy grandfather in law says:
<<< that could give a shit less about other people's lives knowing after they die, no punishment will come to them because nothing will happen in the after life. >>>
I saw this argument on a marquee outside of a church this morning. Of course, it had been boiled down to the far more succinct "If there is no God, then basically nothing is unlawful".
Well, many horrors have been committed by governments lead by believers and by those lead by atheists. I see no evidence that belief in God makes one "moral." Our jails are filled with believers.
OK insane rant granted. BUT WAAAAAIIIIT!!!!
Dear firepiss, (I think this name is giving us more information about you than we really want.)
<<< I recall reading somewhere that the word "vigin" used when describing the martyr's paradise in the Qur'an was in fact a mistranslation: It should be "pomegranate". Get back to me when you have a mo. >>>
TDR,
"Our goverment, believes in god, they know they better do their best or try to do good and prevent evil because they know in the after life, the stuff they did in life will be held against them with God."
So believing in fairy tales is better then accepting reality, I guess we should make sure children never learn to stop believing in Santa Claus, the Eater Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy, we should also encourage polytheism, after all, if believing in one imaginary supernatural entity is good, believing in LOTS of them must be even better!
"Yeah sure, the middle east has problems with turning their faith upside down. The true meaning of this is poverty, 3rd world countries which leads to voilence. If there wasn't faith in the middle east, terrorist would find somthing else as an excuse for killing vicitims."
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...And I thought I'd heard everything about religion in our government...
Y'know, I have a culmative essay to do for my World History course. My topic is religion in government, and the three societies I've chosen are Egypt, Rome, and Maya. All three societies had religion intimately tied with government. All three societies fell.
I believe god is no longer giving physcial proof on purpose, he is testing our civilization, seeing if we a worthy enough to stick on his side even though the phsyical proof has no longer to be seen in ages. God knows we have advanced in many ways knowing that giving us Phsyical evidence would be too easy for him to get the non believers to jump back on the God Bandwagon.
It couldn’t possibly be that we are seeing no more divine miracles because we now have better technological means to explain phenomena. Or that with the modern media and communication methods there is less “word of mouth” distortion and exaggeration of events.
No, it must mean that god suddenly decided to be shy about it
You do know that the governments in the Middle East believe in the same god as you do, and they also know "they better do their best or try to do good and prevent evil because they know in the after life, the stuff they did in life will be held against them with God".
We atheists follow the Golden Rule and our conscience, and try our best to do good for the sake of others and ourselves here in this life, not to score brownie points with some tyrannical deity.
I think by now it's been proven beyond doubt that everytime a highly religious (especially fundamentalist ) person assumes power everything goes to shit.
This is easily trackable, the last thirty years of America alone show when "good Christians" are in charge, everything, including moral values are lost.
Check the moral values of your "godly" leaders. It's fucking dismal how deviant the best family values people are.
Confused?
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