I've read three 500 page books on Evolution. I know about it. Evolution does not explain the morals, conscience, etc.
Yes, something came from nothing. That is what Evolution teaches.
It also breaks two scientific laws and a theory.
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Evolution easily explains morals and conscience. We are physically weak, therefore it is of benefit to us to cooperate.
And evolution doesnt have anything to do with how anything came into existance. That would be abiogenesis or the big bang.
It also breaks two scientific laws and a theory.
Let me guess, the books you read were written by the morons over at Answers in Genesis, right?
"Something from nothing"? That has nothing to do with evolution.
The bible has nothing to do with morals, or conscience. Upbringing does.
Evolution doesn't say something came from nothing. It says one species came from another different ancestral species. Where the first "species" came from is unknown. But "unknown" doesn't mean "goddidit" - that's called the "god of the gaps" fallacy.
Evolution does not explain the morals, conscience, etc.
Evolution explains what happened, not why. We can speculate about, say, why we have opposable thumbs, but such things are just guesses. We only know that we have the thumbs and our earliest ancestors didn't.
"I've read three 500 page books on Evolution"
All of them published by nuts like Kent Hovind and Jack Chick, I guess.
I've read three 500 page books on Evolution.
You must be an expert![/sarcasm
I know about it. Evolution does not explain the morals, conscience, etc.
You're right about that.
Yes, something came from nothing.
Like your god?
That is what Evolution teaches.
That's what religion teaches. Not evolution.
It also breaks two scientific laws and a theory.
Such as...?
"I've read three 500 page books on Evolution."
Really? Which ones? Be specific.
"Evolution does not explain the morals, conscience, etc."
Yes, actually, it does.
"Yes, something came from nothing. That is what Evolution teaches."
The Big Bang Theory has nothing to do with Evolution, nor does it say ANYTHING about what started the Universe. The Big Bang Theory only covers what happened a few tiny fractions of a second AFTER the big event. EDIT: Put another way, the Big Bang Theory only describes what has happened since a bit after the event and that there WAS an event, but it cannot describe what happened before, during, or immediately after.
"It also breaks two scientific laws and a theory."
Which ones? Be specific. Besides, "Scientific Laws" and "Scientific Theories" aren't what you seem to think they are. "Scientific Theories" are just collections of hypotheses that have evidence to support them and have not yet been disproven by experiment or observation. "Scientific Laws" are simply generalizations of a collection of theories. For example, a theory may attempt to describe a method of energy transfer, while a law would use that theory to give you an equation to figure out how quickly it can be done in a given situation.
Evolution does not explain the morals, conscience, etc.
You may start with Richard Dawkins' book The Selfish Gene and work your way up from there. I guess it's not one of the three books you read.
It's interesting how he never mentions WHAT scientific laws and the theory that it breaks. I've read books on different subjects, too, doesn't mean that I necessarily understand what's being discussed. However, reading books on it is a good start. Just keep doing it, and maybe, just maybe, you might get it.
I've read three 500 page books on Evolution
I can see that!
And the authors of those three books were Kent Hovind, Ken Hamm, Michael Behe right?
Evolution does not set out to explain the origin of anything other than diversity of life. No origins, no morals, no deities, just diversity.
I've read 500 books on Christianity. I know about it. Christianity does not explain the origin of man, the coming about of the universe, observable reality, logic and intelligence, etc.
Yes, something came from nothing. That is what Christianity teaches.
It also breaks thirteen thousand, five hundred and sixty two scientific laws and fourty seven theories.
[I've read three 500 page books on Evolution. I know about it. Evolution does not explain the morals, conscience, etc. ]
Uh, so what? It doesn't claim to explain them - just as the Communist Manifesto has little to say about Olympic figure skating.
[Yes, something came from nothing. That is what Evolution teaches.]
No, that's what Creationism teaches. Evolution deals with the changes exhibited in a species over a period of time through the inheritence of desirable genetic traits. Rational Christians have no difficulty in reconciling this with their faith.
[It also breaks two scientific laws and a theory.]
I don't for a minute believe you know what a theory actually is.
"I've read three 500 page books on Evolution. I know about it. Evolution does not explain the morals, conscience, etc."
You cant state sentence one and then follow it up with sentence two and expect me to believe your first claim.
"Yes, something came from nothing. That is what Evolution teaches."
And you read 1500 pages on evolution did you? Interesting...
"It also breaks two scientific laws and a theory."
Name them. If you mention thermodynamics I'll be forced to beat you severely.
Wow, the books were a whole 500 pages long. I am impressed you found three with exactly the same number of pages - or did you read the same book three times?
As for the rest of your drivel, well it isnt even worth mocking such nonsense.
Those three "500 page books about evolution" were written by Kent Hovind, weren't they?
Evolution is a perfect evolution for morality. Caring about other members of your race = better chance of race surviving.
Evolution doesn't address the beginnings of life. That's abiogenesis you're thinking of. And abiogenesis doesn't say that something came from nothing -- it's life forming from non-life. Non-life still = something.
[Yes, something came from nothing. That is what Evolution teaches. ]
Are you sure those books were about evolution or trying to "disprove" evolution using ID crap.
Also, evolution does not teach that you moron. Evolution is about genetic traits passed from one generation to the next.
I've read three 500 page books on Evolution. I know about it.
Books by whom? Did you understand all those words?
It also breaks two scientific laws and a theory.
Does it indeed? Well I suppose you're the one who has read the books, so presumably you'd know which laws and theory you're talking about.
"It also breaks two scientific laws and a theory. "
Well I think I have read enough creationist BS (I even think it beats three 500 books by now) to place a wager on this one:
First and Second law of Thermodynamics and Louis Pasteur's disproof of spontaneous generation.
Do I win anything besides the pain of a *headdesk* *facepalm* combo?
If you really believe that evolution says that something came from noting then you either did not read any nooks on evolution or did not absorb anything that was written in them. Given the stupidity of creatonists I'd say the latter is more likely and that you did read the books but lacked the intellect to understand the science so instead have continued with a ridiculous strawman.
I'd also be interested to know which laws evolution breaks. I guess one of them you are reffering to is the second law of thermodynamics however as the second law only applies to closed systems it does not contradict evolution in any way.
>"It also breaks two scientific laws and a theory."
"You broke a coupla scientific laws back there, y'know. And a theory. I'm gonna hafta ask to see yer license 'n' registration, please."
Which books were they, where do they break these laws, and do they address that breakage at all?
See, personally I think you're lying, but if you're telling the truth we need to get these books fixed or withdrawn. And as an added bonus I'll give you a personal apology.
It also breaks two scientific laws and a theory.
If you actually bothered to name those things, you'd be about a million miles closer to actually making a scientifically valid argument than you currently are (which is about a trillion miles out).
By reading three 500 page books on evolution, did you actually mean:
I bashed myself over the head with three 500 page books on evolution until I was brain damaged enough to believe in creationism?
"I've read three 500 page books on Evolution."
Either you're lying or you were too dumb to understand what you read. Or else the books you refer to were actually Hovind-type misrepresentations of the theory.
"I know about it."
I doubt that.
"Evolution does not explain the morals, conscience, etc."
No....it wasn't intended to. What does biology have to do with morality?
"Yes, something came from nothing. That is what Evolution teaches."
No, it doesn't. I think you're referring to the Big Bang, which is NOTHING to do with the T of E.
"It also breaks two scientific laws and a theory."
Really? Care to explain that statement?
Three boks over a period of 30-second flip-throughs more like.
The only thing you know about evolution is how to spell the word.
Evolution has NOTHING to do with morals, conscience, etc (whatever etc is)
Evolution does NOT teach that something came from nothing, but that's precisely what the Goat Sodomisers Handbook (the bible) preaches.
Which 2 scientific laws and one theory are broken? You singularly avoid giving them?
I would suggest you stop any pretence of having any scientific knowledge in order to stop you highlighting your sanctimonious stupidity.
I've read three 500 page books on Evolution. Good start.
It also breaks two scientific laws and a theory.
Epic fail is conserved in the end. I get the feeling you're an internet smart guy, amirite?
Genesis claims that something came from nothing (God being too nebulous to claim as the source of existance. After all, what created the all-knowing, all-seeing eternal being?). Since you OBVIOUSLY knew this fact, and take issue with it when it's similarly applied to evolution, I guess you're not a christian either. Either that, or you're an idiot and hypocrite
Yet, the Bible bases it's entire credibility on the concept of a talking snake.
Ye cannae change the laws of Reality! [/Scotty]
My copy of Mansfield Park by Jane Austen is also 500 pages long. So what?
Evolution teaches that species adapt to a changing environment through random mutation and natural selection. That's about it.
No morals, no conscience, no origin.
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