[After a long discussion on homosexuality being a choice. I love it when straight fundies apparently understand my life better than I do!]
Now many of you are gonna say its natural, and that you were born a homosexual. How? Only after you grew up did you say you liked a certain sex. But that was after puberty, after you began to understand life, after you were influenced did you say you liked a certain sex. No one is born that way. What ever is in your heart will you actions show it. You chose to be that way after all the trials of early life did you decide. And for the people who say they tried being straight, you only failed because you chose to. If someone offered you a billion dollars and all you had to do was come up with 1,000 of the dollars in one day, wouldn't you find a way to get that 1,000 dollars. Same thing. You would try to make it happen. You chose to be like that. It was too hard to get use to so you gave up. I'm not saying its super horrible to be the way you chose to be, I'm just saying, when you gave up, you chose to be that way.
And for those who like being homosexuals and you didn't try to change, you just chose it. You decided you didn't want to change. After you grew up, after puberty, you subconsciously said, I'm a homosexual. Subconsciously you said that. It wasn't natural. You still chose it. And when it came to you consciously that you were a homosexual, you did nothing about it, meaning you gave into what you were and chose to be that way. Your choice.
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Ok, you tell me when it was you decided to be heterosexual. You might have known what being horny was at puberty, but you were drawn to one gender or another before that. Lying doesn't change that.
The rest of your rambling is pure bullshit. You can't change your gender identity, or your sexual preference.
Ok class is here an exercise...
For all of you who are straight....Become gay.
For all of you who are gay...Become straight.
Diaforetikos, your christian tolerance brings shame to your village.
If being gay is a choice, go decide to be gay for a day, or even just a couple of minutes.
Let me know how it went. I'll wait.
I won't completely bash this person because they're basically saying what my own mother says regarding homosexuality... but at the same time, why would someone choose such a lifestyle full of harassment and troubles, and why aren't more than 10% "choosing" this if it's such an easy choice?
However, I'm pretty sure that I'm homosexual because I've been more interested in guys than girls for pretty much my entire life, even when I was very young.
So..basically accept who you are, or reject it and repress it? Yes, of course..cunt. Like it has been said, I would enjoy seeing you choose to be gay, oh, just for a month. For fun.
I find it funny people like you who believe in unicorns and talking snakes and faeries and shit and hippies walking on water have the audacity to call something "unnatural".
You have no idea how many try to change. How many end up in marriages trying to be heterosexual. How many commit suicide rather than be gay.
I'm not a supporter of gay rights because I'm gay. I don't even have any gay friends (I had one, but he died). I just don't like anything that drives someone to suicide and to miserable lives. Especially if it's something that doesn't hurt anyone.
Pssstt...most people can feel attraction to a certain gender from a very young age (I'm sure a good number of kids have had their first crush before even getting into first grade). Romantic feelings do not begin at puberty, and do not always require sexual desire.
There is growing evidence that homosexuals share a similar brain structure. So, judging from the correspondence between specific brain structures (formed from birth) and homosexuality, some are, most likely, born homosexual.
It is only during puberty that their homosexuality is made clear, by having a sexual desire that they can clearly detect within themselves directed towards targets within their same gender that could have been (deliberately) mistaken as any variety of things beforehand. They are in fact gay before puberty. It is just that they are more certain of it when they enter puberty, and are more willing to admit it.
"If someone offered you a billion dollars and all you had to do was come up with 1,000 of the dollars in one day, wouldn't you find a way to get that 1,000 dollars."
That actually happened to me, but it was only a million. Apparently, I won the spanish national lottery....
You know, Diaforetikos, if you perform physical gymnastics as well as you perform mental gymnastics, you would be UNSTOPPABLE at Naked Twister...
I also only started growing facial hair at puberty, after I 'began to understand life, after you were influenced did you say you liked a certain sex.'
Was that a choice too? Did I choose to have to shave?
Now many of you are gonna say its natural, and that you were born a heterosexual. How? Only after you grew up did you say you liked a certain sex. But that was after puberty, after you began to understand life, after you were influenced did you say you liked a certain sex. No one is born that way. What ever is in your heart will you actions show it. You chose to be that way after all the trials of early life did you decide. And for the people who say they tried being gay, you only failed because you chose to. If someone offered you a billion dollars and all you had to do was come up with 1,000 of the dollars in one day, wouldn't you find a way to get that 1,000 dollars. Same thing. You would try to make it happen. You chose to be like that. It was too hard to get use to so you gave up. I'm not saying its super horrible to be the way you chose to be, I'm just saying, when you gave up, you chose to be that way.
And for those who like being heterosexuals and you didn't try to change, you just chose it. You decided you didn't want to change. After you grew up, after puberty, you subconsciously said, I'm a heterosexual. Subconsciously you said that. It wasn't natural. You still chose it. And when it came to you consciously that you were a heterosexual, you did nothing about it, meaning you gave into what you were and chose to be that way. Your choice.
Choice? No choice? For what it's worth (anecdotal evidence)...
In college, I shared an apartment with a friend, whom I knew was gay. Of course, when he had guests, I was slighty distraught. In fact, for a while, I didn't know which way to turn: at 21 and still a virgin, I truly wondered whether I wouldn't have a better chance that way.
So I decided to check. Inspired by Einstein's thought experiment on the speed of light on a speeding train (yes, I'm a geek through and through), I imagined two beds with a body on each. I knew the man was there, but I could detail every fold of satin on her luscious curves.
That settled it, and I waited until university, where I met my first girlfriend.
I don't think I chose. The tendency, the attraction towards one gender, was already there .
Why should it be any different for homosexuals?
Right, right, right, right, right, right. A choice. Got you. (What a feeb.)
Fundie, you start with the assumption that sexuality is a choice, do absolutely no intellectual heavy lifting, and end up in the place you started.
Go fuck yourself with a crowbar.
"And for those who like being homosexuals and you didn't try to change, "
Because ex-gays really have turned straight. They aren't just celibate, or shagging other people of the same sex (usually without protection) on the side. Oh no. They have changed.
*yawn*
Yeah, I'm with you, Diaforetikos, and what about those people who chose to be Asians, what's with that, eh? They're nearly as bad as those people who choose to be Ginger. The only thing worse is those who choose to be Greek.
After you grew up, after puberty, you subconsciously said, I'm a homosexual.
Many homosexuals know they are diffrent long before reaching puberty.
And when it came to you consciously that you were a homosexual, you did nothing about it, meaning you gave into what you were and chose to be that way. Your choice.
There is nothing you can do about it.
YOU. CAN. NOT. CHANGE. YOUR. SEXUAL. PREFRENCE.
YOU. DON'T. GET. A. CHOICE.
You don't choose your skin color do you?
Pft. Well, gee, then heterosexuality is a 'choice' in the same way. Heteros decided they didn't want to change. So they just choooose to be heterosexual.
'And for the people who say they tried being straight, you only failed because you chose to.'
This guy should get a smack in the lip for that...
So, how long have you lived as a homosexual, Diaforetikos, as you know so much about it?
Was I not born with the possibility for breasts either, as they did not emerge until puberty? Did I choose to grow breasts?
If it's too hard for some people to choose to be heterosexual, doesn't that show that they are NOT heterosexual from birth?
Isn't the subconscious more natural than a premeditated decision?
I bet many of the ones realizing they were gay, first thought "Aaaah, this can't be right, please, please make me heterosexual!!!".
But they simply couldn't choose to be heterosexual, anymore than they could choose to be green-eyed or left-handed.
First of all fundys chose to believe that gay people chose to be gay.
I have never been able to convince them otherwise. It is essential that they believe this because if are born gay then god mate them this way and they need to be cut some slack. This is incompatible with their scripture which says that it is great evil. In their black and white fundy mind, if any part of their scripture is proven wrong the whole thing is wrong. It is either all true or all a lie.
If the scripture is completly wrong then their faith is in vain. They have almost completely constructed their identity around being a christian, if christianity fails their identity fails
At certan levels this is the same as a death threat...dead identity, i die.
This is my opinion.
If ten million gay people came to a funndy bringing ten tractor loads of scientific papers. If all of the gay people said that they didn't chose and they macked it up with the papers they wouldent believe it
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If people chose to be gay and it is unnatural then all men are hetrosexual. The ones that say they are gay are really heterosexuals that are engaging in homosexual behavior which is unnatural for them. These people woud be doing it for the sake of laciviousness and as an act of rebelion. This is compatibe with their absoluteist take on their book.
If gay people are born that way and are acting according their god given nature then the fundys woulld not be able to engauge in their narrow mminded judgemental absouteist "maurrals".
These people do love thundering off so much....makes them feel full of "richarnass".
Does anyone think i am on the right track with this?
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