Get this fact buddy, we have never really seen a world full of atheist. Imagine if our world never had a god. Death count, you couldn't even imagine. Government would be insane and would be the wicked. Religion has saved our society throughout time. Before Moses, the world was a brutal place. It set our human race in the right direction.
There is always evil, some will pose as Christians, others will pose as Muslims trying to make religion evil. This could be Satans plan and God's test.
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Didn't Moses preside over 7 different genocides at least?
For starters let's pull an exceprt of Moses talking to God as God physically hands down the 10 commandments.
34:8
And Moses made haste, and bowed his head toward the earth, and worshipped.
34:9
And he said, If now I have found grace in thy sight, O LORD, let my LORD, I pray thee, go among us; for it is a stiffnecked people; and pardon our iniquity and our sin, and take us for thine inheritance.
34:10
And he said, Behold, I make a covenant: before all thy people I will do marvels, such as have not been done in all the earth, nor in any nation: and all the people among which thou art shall see the work of the LORD: for it is a terrible thing that I will do with thee.
34:11
Observe thou that which I command thee this day: behold, I drive out before thee the Amorite, and the Canaanite, and the Hittite, and the Perizzite, and the Hivite, and the Jebusite.
34:12
Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee:
34:13
But ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves:
34:14
For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:
34:15
Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice;
34:16
And thou take of their daughters unto thy sons, and their daughters go a whoring after their gods, and make thy sons go a whoring after their gods.
"Get this fact buddy, we have never really seen a world full of atheist."
Give this guy some credit. I mean, he's right, we have never seen a world filled by a single atheist.
"Government would be insane and would be the wicked."
Would be the wicked?
"This could be Satans plan and God's test."
I find it interesting that Satan's plans and God's tests appear to be indentical.
<<< Government would be insane and would be the wicked. >>>
What do you mean, "would be"? It already is (on both counts). Religion hasn't helped matters there.
I'm sick of these dolts who think that atheists are automatically evil people. Not only are they wrong, it in fact says far more about them when they believe that fear of Hell is the only thing that can keep people in line.
"Would be the wicked?"
- Papabear
Yeah, it would be "the wicked" and "insane" as in very good and fashionable. You could in fact also call it "cool", "bad", "dope", and so on.
Let's see...
Besides the crazy assertion that the world would be worse if it was different...no way to falsify this one way or the other...
Daily death count in the millions...check.
Insane, and wicked governments...check.
Earth as a brutal place...check.
Bad spelling...check.
Frankly, I don't see how a world of atheists could be any worse...
I love how he includes those last two sentences apparently intended as a pre-emptive defense against the various points already raised here, basically saying, "Even if religion also has been brutal and evil and oppressive, it isn't necessarily religion's fault -- it could be Satan's idea, with God's permission."
Riiiiight. Like THAT makes everything okay then.
~David D.G.
"It set our human race in the right direction."
Let's see . . . 1500 years of witch burnings, the Dark Ages, bigotry, intolerance, and countless "holy wars" over who has the best imaginary friend.
If that's 'the right direction', I'm glad I'm just along for the ride.
Yes, the Crusades were caused by Christians, but even more currently, this "war on terrorism" is actually a modern holy war against Islam. My god is better than your god. Now if there was no religion...there would be no holy wars!
I can't imagine the death count on this planet and governments are already corrupt with too much power.
I also like how when Satan does something evil, he means it, but when God does something like that, he's just "testing" us.
We have never really seen a world full of Christians either.
Imagine if our world never had religious wars. The death count would be so low, you couldn't even imagine. Governments would be secular and sane. Religion has destroyed societies throughout time. After Moses, the world was a brutal place. It set our human race in several contradicting directions.
Religion makes itself evil, all on its own.
It could be God's plan and Satan's test...
"Before Moses, the world was a brutal place."
Yeah, Moses really contributed to helping it not be such a brutal place. Just ask the Midianites and Amalekites what they thought of Moses, how he saved their society.
Oh, wait, you can't, Moses slaughtered them. All of them. After slaughtering all of the males, he didn't have enough slaughtering, so he went back and slaughtered the women, children, infants, and animals, but kept 32,000 virgins to be raped later.
Wow, after Moses, things were great, he really "set the human race in the right direction", right?
We know the Enlightenment was one of the key events to developing Democracies and free peoples. We know there were still wars as many were territorial or acts of desperation or ideology, that last one because we still had Christianity and other religions, look at the warhawk mentality and where it's seated in America today. Atheism ISN'T an ideology, it's the none belief in God, by itself, the non-belief doesn't stop us from being vicious animals either, AND NEITHER DOES RELIGION.
Our world couldn't survive five madman, messagers of God Moses' mentality. and there's a few of those freaks still about.
We narrowly missed the White Horse prophecies, also known as catastrophic batshittery.
Imagine if our world never had a god.
It's easy if you try....
Confused?
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