of course there is a god.. There is allways a creator. Everything you see around you is created by god. Except the violence.. Loneliness or sadness could not exsist in this world if god didn't have those qualities. Even Violence, god is violent but not in a bad way. Such as he likes to battle against demons for the fun. He creats them and battle's against them.
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Existence does not necessarily correlate into creation. And that thing about violence is about as genuinely stupid as it can be. God is violent, but not in a bad way? How can that be? He creates demons for sport? Oh, and if humans just happen to get in the way of this little fun time event, well, too bad? Why am I getting visions of Aliens vs. Predator while I'm sitting here typing this?
"of course there is a god.."The words "of course" are used to preface a statement which is patently obvious. Your statement that there is a god is not obvious, in fact, it is an utterly unproven and altogether unsubstantiated, specious and spurious at best.
"There is allways a creator."
No. Prove it.
"Everything you see around you is created by god."
You and your pals have yet to establish that there IS a god.
"Except the violence.."
"Except the violence" from what? Do you mean "accept" the violence? Accept what violence? The violence done in the name of your "God" delusion? No, thank you.
"Loneliness or sadness could not exsist in this world if god didn't have those qualities."
Another ridiculous assertion. I was at the dump dropping off some trash. I helped create the dump. The dump stinks, but I do not stink. I do not have the qualities of the dump even though I am one of it's creators. Are you contending that because stink exists, "God" must stink? I created a cake, but I am neither light in texture nor chocolate flavored. Chocolate flavor exists. Is "God" chocolate flavored?
"Even Violence, god is violent but not in a bad way."
So, mass killings are OK if you do them in a good way?
"Such as he likes to battle against demons for the fun."
Your "God" engages in killing for sport? Your "God" is entertained by death?
"He creats them and battle's against them."
Instead of battling evil he created for sport, maybe your "God" would have more time to work on real problems. Of course, he would have to exist for that.
"Even Violence, god is violent but not in a bad way."
of course there is a god. There is allways a creator.
I have a rounded, smooth, flat rock. Who created it? I say it was formed by the natural processes of water erosion. Do you claim it was created by faeries, or do you argue that your god cared enough about rocks to shape each one differently, through subtly different compositions and forces? Couldn't he be doing something better with his time/effort, like, say, feeding the starving? Or demonstrating his existence? Maybe he's autistic?
Everything you see around you is created by god.
Then he's an incompetent fuck and should be fired.
Except the violence.. Loneliness or sadness could not exsist in this world if god didn't have those qualities. Even Violence, god is violent but not in a bad way
Way to contradict yourself. Did he or did he not create violence? And you say he's violent, but not in a bad way? The explanation for that claim should be hilarious. Let's see...
Such as he likes to battle against demons for the fun. He creats them and battle's against them.
So... he intentionally creates intelligent beings with uncontrollable desires to inflict pain on other intelligent beings he created, so that he can cause them suffering, and make himself out to be a hero by destroying them? That's just fucked up.
NonHomogenized #69630 "Except the violence.. Loneliness or sadness could not exsist in this world if god didn't have those qualities. Even Violence, god is violent but not in a bad way"
<< Way to contradict yourself. Did he or did he not create violence? And you say he's violent, but not in a bad way? The explanation for that claim should be hilarious. Let's see... >>
"Such as he likes to battle against demons for the fun. He creats them and battle's against them."
<< So... he intentionally creates intelligent beings with uncontrollable desires to inflict pain on other intelligent beings he created, so that he can cause them suffering, and make himself out to be a hero by destroying them? That's just fucked up. >>
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Ergo: God demonstrates symptoms of Munchausen's Syndrome By Proxy!
~David D.G.
Of course, and, according to you, he sends tsunamis and hurricanes for fun. What type of all-loving God are you invoking?
@Papabear
Your "God" engages in killing for sport? Your "God" is entertained by death?
A-priori assumption without evidence and self contradictions. But the Biblical tradition also has plenty of contradictions itself.
You say that things cannot exist if they're not one of "God's qualities". You then add an exception. You then argue that it's because it would supposedly be justified violence. But no, humans who kill because of hate and taboos, even when citing older human scriptures to justify it and claiming that they have a divine origin, it doesn't make them right or ethical, or non-violent. You end with a concept similar to the demiurge, where humans are just the toys and victims of a bored child of some sort who denies or enjoys when the toys actually suffer. This makes it a "god" not worth serving, even unworthy of respect. There would only remain fear, still requiring strange justifications to maintain. If everything happens because of god, it makes more sense if it's an impersonal force than a person. From that conclusion, the idea of gods can be eliminated in favor of completely natural, impersonal processes, instead of intangible "esoteric energy"... Especially if you can detect the actual things and processes, versus the complete lack of evidence for a non-physical world or beings, concepts that are also properly explained by human fantasy and traditions.
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