[Regarding victims of female genital mutilation]
If it were at childbirth and they couldnt remember having it done, then yeah, im pretty sure the only people that would actually bitch about it would be single unemployed gals who dont have anything better to do with their time that to bitch about something that cant be changed.
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It's OK as long as the victim can't remember the crime? So if I were to drug a woman, then rape her, and clean up the scene so she wouldn't know then I wouldn't be morally liable?
Now that's a great standard of morality, it's OK as long as you can get away with it.
Ok. Now let's consider my religion, which decrees that one in ten newborns (selected at random) should be given a sex change.
They won't remember it so... no harm done, right? Only a loser would protest this practice, right?
I would say I'm gonna bitch about it right here, and I'm a man! Oops, wrong.
Considering the fact that it fucking affects sensation down there, it has lasting effects, asshole.
I'm going to hope that this idiot is just unaware that this isn't simply a cosmetic alteration, like circumcision for guys, but a mutilation that causes PERMANENT pain and suffering -- and the really sick part is, that's exactly what it is DESIGNED to do! It's like installing a permanent torture device on a girl at birth!
But even so, his argument that "if you were too young to remember it, it can't be a problem" is stupid even as sophistry; and his obviously sexist remark about "single unemployed gals" is just a lightning rod for well-deserved derision.
~David D.G.
thisGuy=Asshat
Hey, Asshat, wouldn't it be great if someone had butchered the nerves in *your* genitals so that *you* couldn't feel pleasure from sex?
Maybe we should remove babies hands at birth. I mean, they wouldn't remember it and they would probably use their hands for masturbation anyway.
Did you have your compassion removed at birth, or don't you remember?
From what I recall, when the sex of the feotus is determined, some cells become the penis or clitoris with nerve endings etc, and others become the labia or testicles.
I vote we cut off the penis off Alex because it's not like you actually need it. The testicles will allow hormone production. You can pee using a catheter or sitting down. and as for sexual ejaculation, you can achieve this by stimulating the prostrate via the anus. Therefore you still have it better than those suffering female circumcision.
Another asshat claiming that there's nothing wrong with a horrible process that he (coincidentally) won't and can't go through. After all, it can't be wrong if it can only happen to someone else, right?
Did you have your compassion removed at birth, or don't you remember?
Clearly...
Another asshat claiming that there's nothing wrong with a horrible process that he (coincidentally) won't and can't go through. After all, it can't be wrong if it can only happen to someone else, right?
<Idiot> Yeah, its not like it affects me and its not like that can ever change, so whats the problem?</quote>
((Death By Irony Overdose jumps out of hyperspace, fires Replicannon at full power into Alex's face))
<Captain of DBIO> Oops, it seems we reduced it to subatomic particles. Oh well.
1) Depending on how radical the procedure is, it often leaves the woman unable to ever enjoy sex for the rest of her life.
2) The scarring can severely affect the natural biological processes that go on and leave a woman open to infection after infection.
3) The repeated infections can ultimately leave a woman infertile.'
4) More progressive men in the countries where female genital mutilation is practiced sometimes refuse to marry a woman who has undergone the procedure, because they realize the terrible negative effect it will have on their sex life and therefore their marriage.
So,
5) These poor women often end up marrying the most hidebound, uneducated, backward people in their area.
There's a reason that England has not only made the practice illegal in their country, but it is now illegal to take a girl or woman out of England for the express purpose of having the procedure preformed in another country.
Wait, so he wants women to have FGM when they're in the delivery room? WTF?
Methinks Alex is terrified of being left for another man. As well, I'm guessing, he should be.
From the accounts I've read, it's typically done at puberty, without anesthetic, in an unsterilized environment, with a number of adult female relatives and neighbors looking on. In one account I read, the midwife, or whoever the fuck does these barbaric operations, actually invited the witnesses to feel around in the wound to make sure it was done to their satisfaction.
And then it causes intercourse to be unbearable, and complications in childbirth.
Still think these women are "just bitching"?
So, if the head of your dick had been cut off at birth, and you didn't remember it because you were a newborn, that would be ok? How about I just use some general anesthesia and do it now.
while(Alex.ignoramus==true)
{
Alex.ridicule();
Alex.opinion.femaleGenitalMutilation.ignore=true;
}
Also, your grasp of object-oriented programming seems to be a touch... erm... out of touch. Your little "userName.thisGuy = Alex;" thing would make more sense to me if ThisGuy was a class, with userName as a property of ThisGuy, and Alex as an instance of the ThisGuy class.
ThisGuy Alex = new ThisGuy();
Alex.userName = "Dumbass";
ThisGuy shykid = new ThisGuy();
shykid.userName = "Pedantic Nerd";
Of course, ThisGuy is still a strange name for a class, but it is still more intuitive to me than having thisGuy as a property of UserName. A user name is one of many things that can describe a guy, not vice versa. Either way, who am I to judge? I just made an endless loop earlier. :p
(Sorry, guys, I'll stfu now.)
To be fair, I've heard the same thing said about men who don't appreciate having had their foreskins removed without their consent.
And David D.G., male circumcision causes a lot of damage to the glans. It isn't just a cosmetic alteration.
Let's drug Alex, slit his penis up in two and sow it onto his stomach. He'll be drugged, he won't remember having it done.
I'm a married working woman and I will bitch about this until no girls are mutilated.
By protesting, you might save a lot of girls from having this barbaric thing done to them.
Why change the "perfect" body that God/Allah/YHWH/FSM/Whoever has created?
Confused?
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