Burglery and theft would stop overnight if the government passed a bill that if somebody was on someone else's property illegaly the property owner could do whatever he wanted to them with complete legal and civil impunity. After the first few burglers had been hacked up with machettes or beheaded it would become a thing of the past.
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Why would so many people be so eager to hack people up with machettes?
no, I think that's just you. Get help.
Let me know when they pass this law newman and I'll invite you over for Sunday dinner. I'll even show you my new wood chipper...
Seriously though, who the hell has fantasies like that? Seek help, pal. Quick.
oh sure, well, if you're going down the route of legalising crime...
but it's hardly fundie, is it?
You do know that by definition a burglary happens when nobody's home, right? Otherwise it's a robbery. While you can't do 'whatever you want' to someone maliciously trespassing on your property you do have the right to detain them and use force if necessary. Use of a machette is, sadly for you, rarely considered reasonable force.
They passed a law authorising the use of deadly force in the protection of your person or property in Texas Senate Bill 378, which came into force in September this year.
Burglary and theft did not stop overnight.
However, one trigger-happy goon has already taken the new law to mean you can shoot dead people you suspect are stealiing someone else's property.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/5304565.html
So if you live in Texas, always inform your neighbours before getting the removal men round.
Following your logic, we would have never arrested the guy of the house of horrors in London. After all, the corpses were found buried in his property. Or we couldn't do anything against fraternities either, they rape women in their houses. And we couldn't go against mafia either, they kill people in their houses too. And what if the thief gets into the house, gets out and you realise you're bluglared 6 hours later? And news, baby, that law exists in some States but not in Europe. The rest of the story, you know it.
This is pretty much what the law already is today, even in a supposedly "liberal gay media hippie" state like California.
If an intruder breaks into your property, this creates a prima facie assumption that the intruder is threatening you with death or great bodily injury. If you shoot the intruder, you are completely within your rights, unless the intruder (or his estate, if you get my meaning) can prove that no reasonable person would have considered him a threat.
I just wanna know how many people stock their homes with implements of decapitation instead of, you know, firearms.
What if the person just wants to ask for directions? Fair enough, if some random guy's trashing your house and trying to kill your wife and rape your daughters, then maybe hacking him with a machete wouldn't be such a bad idea.
Otherwise, seek help.
No, but the rates of kidnapping, slavery, battery, murder, rape, etc. would skyrocket.
You have to sympathies with his point a little, there was a case here (the UK) where 2 teenagers broke into an old man's house in the middle of the countryside, for about the 5th time, and he shot one of them with a shotgun, got about 10 years compared to the community service or whatever that the other thief got.
After the first few burglers had been hacked up with machettes or beheaded it would become a thing of the past.
Yeah, and you'd be in prison too. Everyone's a winner!
yup I can see the headlines now: Man shot dead after attempting to strike cop with machete:
Officer Smith was forced to shoot a man only identified as "newman" during an investigation of the recent disappearances in the neighborhood. "I had just rung the door bell and was about to ask him if he had seen anything suspicious when he came at me with this bloodstained machete, I didn't have a choice." said Smith.
You retards are missing the point as usual.
States with higher rates of armed citizenry DO have less crime. (Where would you rather walk at 2AM, DC or Arizona?)
Secondly I am advocating more than mere self-defense. I'm advocating that home owners be able to treat home invaders the way John Wayne Gacy (the killer clown) treated his victims. That WILL stop home invasions. Fear works.
@Safaraz
You omit the rather telling detail that Tony Martin shot the kid in the back while he was trying to escape.
He had unquestionably been tormented by these little shits, but he was in no danger when he pulled the trigger and the law rightly held that he had no reason to use lethal force.
Comparing his sentence with the other kid's doesn't tell us anything, for the simple reason that the latter hadn't killed anybody.
newman gibbered:"States with higher rates of armed citizenry DO have less crime. (Where would you rather walk at 2AM, DC or Arizona?)"
So guns do work as a deterrent, then?
"Secondly I am advocating more than mere self-defense. I'm advocating that home owners be able to treat home invaders the way John Wayne Gacy treated his victims. That WILL stop home invasions. Fear works."
So guns don't work as a deterrent then?
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In fact gun ownership has little to do with crime rates either way. In the US, the number of households with guns has been a fairly stable around 47% until the mid 90s when it slipped to 40%. Was the crime rate as constant over that same period? No.
newman: "... I'm advocating that home owners be able to treat home invaders the way John Wayne Gacy (the killer clown) treated his victims. ..."
WTF? You want to invite them into your home, watch some porno with them, then tie them up once they've been lulled into a false sense of security, torture them, rape them, murder them, and bury the bodies in the crawlspace under tyour house? Wow! You're even more deranged than we initially thought. Please check into a mental hospital and don't ever come out.
"Fear works."
Yet, despite the number of horrific and brutal killings perpetrated upon them, prostitutes still work the streets nightly. Guess they're made of sterner stuff than those wussy, timid little ninnies who burgle houses.
WHOA! REALLY???
...Wait. Killing people, at least in the civilian sense, is illegal, isn't it?
And a lot of burglaries take place...when people aren't, um, present at the property- surprising, I know.
You are allowed to kill robbers, althrough a machete isn't a very useful tool. Personally, I'd like to see more of these assholes dead anyway. Death penalty doesn't work unless it has the right effect on the general population. So yeah...
Now, that actually made me slightly nauseated.
Do you really think that people would be that eager to kill their fellow human beings, if they were given the chance? That says more about you than it does about burglArs and thieves. You obviously don't believe in treating others as you want to be treated.
"States with higher rates of armed citizenry DO have less crime. (Where would you rather walk at 2AM, DC or Arizona?)"
Confused?
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