[Lastly, why do you insist on quoting verses from books [of the Bible] that you know I don't accept as true? Isn't that the number one worst tactic for missionaries?]
It doesn't matter what you accept; try jumping off a 50 story building and 'not accepting' gravity and see if it does you any good. The Bible is true whether you accept it or not.
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Really stupid analogy. The fall that kills you is proof of the laws of gravity, they apply to everyone, and they are universally accepted. There are not seperate(and equally provable) laws of gravity for atheists, agnostics, muslims, hindus, and buddhists. Try again.
"It doesn't matter what you accept; try jumping off a 50 story building and 'not accepting' gravity and see if it does you any good. The Bible is true whether you accept it or not."
Gravity is a fundamental force of the universe and cannot be ignored. Bullshit spewed forth by religious nuts, on the other hand, can be safely ignored as it's utterly irrelevant to the state of the universe.
"The Bible is true whether you accept it or not"...
Well, that is your opinion. And, since I do not believe it for a second, then words from it carry a lot more weight with you than with me. So, if you need to quote bible verses to feel better about yourself, go right ahead. Just know that the words will have no effect whatsoever on those who do not believe it.
It's true that the Bible's 'truth value' is independent of whether you accept it or not. It's not necessarily true that the Bible *is* true though, and I, like most people on this site, would lean in the 'false' direction.
However, this isn't very fundy in my books...
Well, your beliefs and reality are indeed two different things.
However, gravity has quite a bit more going for it then your bible. Like evidence.
If I want to test wether gravity exists or not, I can just trhow something in the air and look wether it stays there or falls down. I don´t need to trust the authors of physics text books on this. I don´t even need to understand the formulae concerning gravity.
This doesn´t apply to the bible however. There is not a single test for the things written in the bible. Quite the contrary, the bible not even contradicts reality as we know it, but even itself in many occasions. And god who is described in every story as someone who often takes action (with miracles that, if they happened today, would do a great job in convincing people of gods existence) in the world of humans hasn´t taken any action in millenia. You also don´t have any source outside of the bible that might prove the miraculous stories written therein (just take n for example Moses; the plagues that god did to the egyptians would something that you would definitely expect to be written down in egyptian chronicles and would influence them for centuries thereafter [maybe even being inscribed in temples or palaces] but nothing of this kind has been found).
Or in short: In contrast to gravity for which we have lots of testable evidence, we have nothing that proves any story written within the bible (which in itself is a collection of books with unclear authorship [no, the Pentateuch wasn´t written by Moses himself ;)])
You idiot, nothing bad happens if you jump off a 50 story building. All that happens is the magical unicorn catches you on his back and flies you away to happy fun play town. Try it, it happens, whether you accept it or not.
Note: The building Must be exactly 50 stories for it to work, if it's 49 you splat and if it's anything over 51 you land on a big naked fat woman.
You know, I fucking hate the way they just pull bible quotes out of their asses too.
It doesn't make you look any smarter by quoting chapter and verse, it makes you look like a raving lunatic, and people don't give a shit about words in a book they know to full of lies.
If I meet an evangelist on the street yelling bible verses at me, I'm just going to start quoting the Havamal at them in response. It would work just as well at making them accept Asatru as them quoting bible verses to make people accept Christianity.
That is to say, not at all.
Shame on you for accepting a mere theory.
It's obvious that it's God's will that you fall, no this 'gravity' stuff!
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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