I dont put much faith in man. Mankind has be wrong more than they have been right. We should remember history; scientist just three hundred years ago were absolutely certain that the world was flat.
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"I dont put much faith in man."
At least we start out agreeing on something.
"Mankind has be wrong more than they have been right."
Perhap, but the people worth listening to are right much more often. The key is paying attention to smart and honest people, and not heeding the ignorant and/or dishonest ones.
"We should remember history; scientist just three hundred years ago were absolutely certain that the world was flat."
Yeah, a flat earth, just like the Bible says.
Scientists and educated people have been saying the world is round since Ancient Greece. It was those who weren't properly educated, in order to understand how they drew such a conclusion, that claimed the world was flat. The idea that Columbus came up with this revolutionary round Earth theory and everyone told him that he was crazy, is a Elementary school myth. For someone who is avocating remembering history I would think you would actually know a little more about it then what those "educational" mouse cartoons tell you.
Scientists had proven the earth to be round long before Columbus ever took his famous journey and that was still almost 600 years ago, not 300.
I remember history, Wesley. Maybe you should take your own advice.
Interesting. I don't trust much in man either. Most men believe in some sort of fairy tale 'god' that lives above the clouds. 500 years ago, most 'scientists' were convince that there was a 'god' who was responsible for all natural phenomena. Interestingly ironic, isn't it?
@wesleyismyname
We should remember history; scientist just three hundred years ago were absolutely certain that the world was flat.
No they weren't, but if your point is that scientific understanding three hundred years ago was inferior to scientific understanding today, then you are reaffirming one of the most fundamental principles of science: it changes . That's not a criticism of science; it's an endorsement! If it were rigid and unchanging, like say, a religious doctrine, then we may very well believe the Earth is flat.
We should remember history; Indeed we shouldscientist just three hundred years ago were absolutely certain that the world was flat This is not history, scientists have been fairly sure the Earth isn't flat since Comumbus, that iover 500 years, thanks so much for your attempt at history
wesleyismyname Wesleyisadingbat
Actually the Greeks knew the earth was round more than 2000 years ago, thats how they measured, quite accurately, its diameter and circumference. I think it was Erasothenes, or something like that, its all Greek to me:P
Educated people have known the earth was round for thousands of years. The idea that people thought the earth was flat until Columbus is nonsense. There's a clear description of the round earth in Dante's Inferno, written around 1310. He presents it as if it were common knowledge. Uneducated people may have believed the earth was flat if they thought about it at all, and some still may in odd corners of the world.
And so was the church. In fact, the church excommunicated, imprisoned, and threatened to kill anyone who said otherwise.
Mankind has be wrong more than they have been right.
You mean like when they thought God said the earth was the center of the universe? And when they thought God opened windows in the canopy of heaven to make it rain? And when they thought God said it was okay to kill unbelievers? And when they thought God wanted them to kill witches? And when they started saying that the world was created in six days 6,000 years ago?
Now, now, let's don't be too harsh, shooting oneself in the foot can happen to everybody. Most people don't use a rocket launcher to do it, though...
And man today believes that a god created the earth.
Also, the flat earth thing was already disproven 300 years ago.
Yes, and the scientists of the day had to conform with Church proclamations. It wasn't science that said the Earth is flat. It was religion, and they had the power and wherewithal to silence anyone who disagreed.
Cristopher Columbus discovered America in 1492, and that the Earth was flat was prevalent until the the fourth century BC. That´s more than 300 years. Wait, there were SOME people in the nineteenth century thought that the Earth was flat but not scientists but RELIGIOUS NUTS, afraid of progress.
“Mankind has be wrong more than they have been right.”
How do you measure that? At one time, a computer expert figured there was a market for, maybe, about ten computers in the country. Now people have one on their desk, one in their pocket, another on their wrist, one runs the car, one runs the thermostat…
So one expert was wrong. Do you count that as being wrong once or being wrong once per existing computer beyond his initial estimate? And the people that invented computers, were they right once? Once each person? Or once each existing computer?
Explosives experts insisted to the president that the Manhattan Project could never produce a nuclear bomb.
And during WWII, the US sub fleet came to be known as the Silent Service for much the same reason. The Japanese had experts that insisted nothing man-made could operate below a certain depth. So their depth charges never went below that hypothetical floor. Our subs could, and did, routinely exceed thiat limit, but we tried very hard for the Japanese to never find out.
So, yeah, a lot of wrongs. But we’re right enough to get to the moon, to get powered flight, to make hydrogen bombs, nuclear power, a jillion computers, artificial islands, and even crash forensics that can figure out if a particular light was on or off at the time if impact.
There’s scientific reasons to reject a particular hypothesis, but not to reject science.
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