Wow, I did not realize that there was so much debating back and forth between atheists and christians on the web. I have several degrees from biology to philosophy and economics with minors in math and geosciences, but after reading all of these sites, I have to be honest, even after having the top overall score in my evolutionary biology course and historical geology course, I still have many doubts about the aging techniques and saw a lot of problems with the evidence that was given to me. Even the evidence given against Jesus and the claimed resurrection just doesn't seem good enough for me. I can try to psychoanalyze my doubts but it doesn't help my doubts about what is said here by atheists for some reason. Does anyone else think that maybe Jesus may have really been who the bible says he was and really did resurrect from the dead. I seem to think it could be true and that maybe the earth is younger. All of this evidence and rhetoric just doesn't seem to convince me for some reason. And I have no crutches needed. I was always the smartest guy in my classes, one of the best looking guys able to have almost any girl in the school, was a great tenor in my rock band, and was an allstar in sports. I liked to have fun, travel, help folks out, drive a BMW etc. etc. and I still see problems with the atheist arguments. Weird I know. Anyone else like this?
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The talents you might posses or the stuff you own, nor any of your hobbies preclude you from being well, an idiot. Claim what you wish, yet an inteligent person could easily see all the evidence simply gives us another mythological figure, not diffrent from any of those before or after, if you have such a hard time accepting that, it`s probably your christian upbringing bias showing.
". I have several degrees from biology to philosophy and economics with minors in math and geosciences"
" I was always the smartest guy in my classes, one of the best looking guys able to have almost any girl in the school, was a great tenor in my rock band, and was an all-star in sports"
and I won 3 Nobel prizes, 8 Olympic medals and an Oscar nomination.
seem less fundie, and more 8-year old bragging over the internet.
I claim that I have twice as many degrees as you, I am better at sports, I've traveled to Mars, my car is better than yours, I'm twice as good looking and get the hottest men.
See - that's easy.
All your so-called credentials are bullshit. This is another "I was once an atheist..." or "I was once a homosexual..." shticks.
"All of this evidence and rhetoric just doesn't seem to convince me for some reason."
Yet you expect us to buy your Bio.
"Anyone else like this?"
Full of shit? Sitting in mommies house playing on the internets? Yeah, loads.
Even Creationist advocates whose real identities are known bullshit their credentials, the user named are even more likely to pile the heap up.
To me, this guy reads fake. My impression is that some fundie has built up this 'perfect scientist' and has him questioning the established facts and leaning more towards believing the bible in a very transparent attempt to get us atheists to repent.
"Well if this guy with all his fancy degrees and being top in his class at everything thinks the bible is true, it must be"... said no atheist ever.
But can you still slice a tomato?
Really, you're supposedly educated to within an inch of your life and you can't compose a coherent argument? And what do your personal hobbies and interests (as listed)have to do with either theology or atheism?
Why is it the more someone brags on themself, the less I believe them?
Even if all this were true, it's nothing more than a weak appeal to authority argument.
Go home, Randy, you're drunk.
Seriously, this sounds like a paraphrasing of "Kiss Me, I'm Shitfaced" by Dropkick Murphys...
Anyone else like this?
Yes, I'm a liar, myself.
"...after having the top overall score in my evolutionary biology course and historical geology course, I still have many doubts about the aging techniques and saw a lot of problems with the evidence that was given to me."
This wasn't, by any chance, at a trailer in the desert, was it?
"...after having the top overall score in my evolutionary biology course and historical geology course, I still have many doubts about the aging techniques and saw a lot of problems with the evidence that was given to me."
You need to call up whatever school you got your degrees from. They obviously cheated you out of your money, and gave you nothing but worthless paper in return.
"I was always the smartest guy in my classes....."
Must have been the dunces' class full of dribbling herp-a-derps. I bet Randy was top of the class in gullibility, first in lying arseholery, and passed infantile apologetics with flying colours.
Perhaps a course in English would have helped there Randy. Your punctuation and run-on sentences are terrible.
Besides, I doubt you went to college at all.
"I have several degrees from biology to philosophy and economics with minors in math and geosciences"
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"I was always the smartest guy in my classes, one of the best looking guys able to have almost any girl in the school, was a great tenor in my rock band, and was an allstar in sports."
Yeah, don't believe it. You seem like an stereotypical internet tough guy gravely overcompensating for their inferiority complex 'cause they're absolute morons in reality.
Accepting the Theory of Evolution isn't "atheist". It certainly challenges a strict, literal interpretation of Genesis; but then, so does the Roman Catholic Church, which represents over half the Christians on the planet. And questioning the divinity of Jesus isn't "atheist", either, unless you think Jews and Muslims are atheists.
First, your education didn't cover dating techniques, or perhaps that didn't stick. Geophysics would help. Second, and most troubling, you can't find evidence "against Jesus", but you fail to consider that you don't have any evidence FOR Jesus and especially for his resurrection. Almost any place and any age has stories about 'dead' people who really weren't, just in a coma. So even if the witnesses are to be believed about what they think they saw, they would have been uninformed about modern medicine.
Too many holes to believe the bible, and no living witnesses to be cross-examined. It wouldn't stand up in a court of law. And I'm sure your BMW is very nice, dear, but neither the car nor your good looks are relative to this discussion.
I have a Ph.D in Applied Sarcasm & Putting The Boot In The Groin, from Ernest Pythagoras University, where Professor Doug Piranha has a chair there. And where, after matriculating with Dr. Dinsdale Piranha, Ph.D, VC, DSO, BBC, ITV, KFC, MMA, GBH, he'll screw your pelvis to said chair, prior to Prof. Doug Piranha making you pull your own head off via his use of Sarcasm, Dramatic Irony, Metaphor, Bathos, Puns, Parody, Litotes and... Satire.
...oh, and I have an MA in Biting The Heads Off Whippets, from a bloke called 'Kierkegaard'. Do I has edjumakayshun, Randy? X3
Having a degree in one of the fields you apparently have studied leads me to conclude that you are telling porkies to boost your own credentials. At no point, in any of these subjects, would there be time dedicated to refuting Jesus and the resurrection (expressing Biblical science as nonsense may be done in passing, but nothing more). Science doesn't concern itself with the supernatural, and the lecturers wouldn't waste valuable time discussing something as superfluous as this.
Oh yeah. You definitely don't sound like someone in need of an emotional crutch who's compensating by inflating their own ego to the size of a parade balloon. Nope. Not at all.
You also most certainly don't sound like you're lying through your ass or/and teeth.
"I still have many doubts about the aging techniques and saw a lot of problems with the evidence that was given to me."
Well, it's a good thing that the universe don't give a flying fuck what you have doubts with then, isn't it? The universe is is no way obligated to function only in ways that make sense to you, you know.
Anyone else like this?
I hope not.
Anyone else like this?
Walter Mitty?
I seem to think it could be true
There was probably a man named Jesus. Or Yeshua. He probably lived around in the Middle East somewhere around two millennia ao.
Yeshua was a very common name in that time and place.
This Yeshua-guy might have said or done things that got remembered by other people. People do that. The Romans may have nailed him to a tree because they seemed to have been fundamentally assholes and didn't seem to like rabble-rousers.
Since people don't seem to be rising from the dead with any regularity nowadays, he probably didn't rise again after three days, and in all probability he didn't do 90% of the things attributed to him. If we can't keep the biography of Lincoln or Washington straight, and old Abe's only been dead about a century and a half, imagine how distorted something gets in a couple of millennia.
and that maybe the earth is younger.
You're going to have to prove that the dating methods used by geologists are fundamentally flawed, and explain exactly HOW they're flawed.
"I have to be honest, even after having the top overall score in my evolutionary biology course and historical geology course,"
A legend in your own mind, eh?
Driving a BMW won't help you either way with atheist arguments, silly boy.
I can say the opposite of the beginning of that wall-o-text: Wow, I did not realize that people today, in the twenty-first century, still doubt the very up-to-date and evidence-based Theory of Evolution, until I found this page.
What evidence against Jesus? With all your precious degrees, you ought to know where the burden of proof lies, dearie.
This is clearly bullshit. Like bono largest dump in the world sized bullshit. You're attacking his claims of having multiple degrees when he says in the VERY FIRST FUCKING SENTANCE
"Wow, I did not realize that there was so much debating back and forth between atheists and christians on the web"
Godammit. I've run in to bullshit god arguments on fucking cooking blogs. I've seen posts on which WoW forums arguing over if Feral/cat druids should be almost as powerful as rogues descend in to god arguments. Video game forums, damn near every single fucking youtube video.
You didn't realize there were constant bitchfests about God on the internet? And then you expect me to take anything you say seriously?
Multiple degree holder. One eyebrow raised.
Also, if he drives how he thinks, he'd still be no different from the BMW drivers I've encountered.
Listen, belief is not the default position. You have to substantiate your claims.
We on the secular side have done a lot of that. Go on, it's your turn.
For the record, I'm pretty damn intelligent too. Maybe not great with girls, but not short in friends either. I don't think I have a crutch in my scepticism either.
"I still have many doubts about the aging techniques and saw a lot of problems with the evidence that was given to me."
Why don't you indicate what doubts and what problems you're speaking of? I'm sure I can explain where you've gone wrong.
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