If the BIBLE is fiction, then why do the stars and constellations tell the same things?
I will tell of 2 examples...
1) When JESUS was born (the very day/night), the planet Jupiter (the king planet) was seen to circled the star Regulus (the king star) 3 times. This was the sign the wise men had been looking for, it told the birth of a 3-fold king.
JESUS was/is a Prophet, a Priest, and a king.
2) The constellation of the warrior holding his enemies head (the Greeks call it Perseus, the Biblical scholars refer to it as JESUS holding the head of Satan) is getting close to Andromeda 'the Chained Maiden' (the bound and chained bride).
This shows that JESUS is about to get HIS bride (the Church)
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I thought you Christians thought of Astrology as evil. Oh, never mind, I forgot that you'll embrace anything as long as it bolsters your beliefs, even if it's a load of shit.
it told the birth of a 3-fold king
Origami for Jesus.
the Biblical scholars refer to it as JESUS
The biblical scholars who are on acid, that is.
This shows that JESUS is about to get HIS bride
But one time he break cage and he "get this" and then we all laugh. High five!
I would say "Citation Needed".
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yep. it's the weirdest thing...the bible hasn't changed while "scientific facts" have changed constantly...
the bible is one book...while the library in the louvre has over 3.5 miles of science books - all obsolete...
For a book that hasn't changed, there sure are a lot of different versions of it.
"When JESUS was born (the very day/night), the planet Jupiter (the king planet) was seen to circled the star Regulus (the king star) 3 times. "
Jupiter circled Regulus? Three times? In one night ? And they could see that during the day?? Riiight.
"This was the sign the wise men had been looking for, it told the birth of a 3-fold king. "
Didn't the wise men follow a star across the desert to witness Jesus' birth?
"the Greeks call it Perseus, the Biblical scholars refer to it as JESUS holding the head of Satan) "
'Biblical scholars' can refer to it as whatever they want, but the fact remains that the Greeks called it Perseus before Jesus (supposedly) existed .
Jupiter circled Regulus three times in a day.
Jupiter circled Regulus three times in a day.
For God's sake, I could have told you what was wrong with that statement when I was 8.
If Jesus was born in 6 BC, as many believe, Jupiter would have been behind the sun. It wouldn't have been visible in Leo until around 2 BC, at which point Herod was two years dead. Nothing in the Bible says anything about Jupiter circling Regulus.
Perseus and Andromeda have always been adjacent to each other. Neither have moved in the last 2,000 years - the Greeks kept star charts.
Ok. If the stars say that (and I've heard of them telling the creation story as well), then they must also tell the Mayan creation story. The jaguar and stingray paddlers paddled the milky way carrying the main good god and set the cosmic hearth stones in orion's belt. And that's not all, the story is pretty extensive corresponding with the sky's appearance at different parts of the year. So the Mayan myths must be true too.
I don't get the word you said, IL. But, if you are female, and blonde, pay me a visit. You must have a really long legs for those leaps in logic.
@livingdead70: Actually the planets up to Saturn had been discovered and named by that time.
But still, Israel Lover:
1) Jupiter needs 121 days for its retrograde motion (I suppose that's what you mean by "circling"), and this occurs every 13.1 months, so in order to "circle" anything 3 times, we're talking about a time of 3 1/4 years (and completely disregard the fact that the retrograde motion doesn't occur on a fixed position in the sky). So by no stretch of the imagination did this happen "the very night" "Jesus" was born.
2) Perseus, as a star constellation, isn't a rigid object, but consists of several stars. So to claim that "it" is "getting close" to Andromeda doesn't make sense to start with, and even if any of those stars had a tangential motion (i.e. that part of a star's motion perpendicular to the line of sight) towards Andromeda, which conveniently is the next constellation to the right of Perseus anyway, this process would take hundreds of millions of years to get it any closer.
But never let facts get in the way of your fiction, eh?
Your constellation BS is just that, BS, and your star of Bethlehem was Venus and Mars together. As a matter of fact, they were seen very close together again shortly before Christmas this year. It's an astronomical phenonmenon that occurs occasionally. Your massive truckload of fail is about what I'd expect from an Israel ass kisser.
The star that led them to the stable shone down upon it. Ever try to get under a star? Do you claim Jupiter shone down on one building on Earth for hours?
You can't justify you goofy religion with celestial combinations, give it up
The "star" that is an essential part of every nativity scene, was never there. It's only mentioned in Matthew. Ancients paid much closer attention to the night sky than we do, and no astronomers mention the usual suspects of Venus and Jupiter being unusually bright and close, Halley's Comet, or a star that would come down and lead a group of three to a certain spot.
"If the Bible is fiction, then why is this Bible story roughly analogous to my distortion of an ancient myth?"
Seriously, do people even think about what they're writing anymore?
1) Astronomy FAIL!
2) Funny, the constellation that "Israel Lover" calls "Perseus" or "Jesus" I call "Fundamentalism"...and the galaxy he calls "Andromeda" I call "The Toilet". Clearly, the fundies are about to get flushed away.
@ xander8
Jupiter sure gets around.
Well, given that the naming convention for satellites of Jupiter is mostly "people that Jupiter/Zeus fucked"...
So Jupiter is cheating on us with another star?
Andromeda...the galaxy that's over 2 million light years away?
Do you even know what your talking about at all?
I wonder if Israel Lover thinks planets really orbit in loops like that due to gravity, are chariots of angels, or that God poked Jupiter around some in order to make an astrological point. I can't see the bottom of the pool of stupid.
I don't think this is a poe. The idea that astrology confirms the bible was one of Kent Hovind's old canards (don't know if he still uses it). Granted, this individual doesn't seem to know much about the subject, but since when has that fact ever discouraged a fundamentalist?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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