Quote# 32253

[Re: Teen girl in critical condition after alleged dispute over hijab]

Why couldn't she just listen? Ruined the family's live.

Raza, Councilofexmuslims.com 28 Comments [12/11/2007 6:12:19 PM]
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Why do I have the feeling that if it was a man we would be seeing a very different post?

12/11/2007 6:19:59 PM


I love how he defends himself in the rest of the thread. This guy is thick. Although the suggestion of a plastic bag was nice. :P

12/11/2007 6:20:01 PM


Almost all his comments in the thread could be submitted:

"I don't feel sorry for her since she is dead and can't feel pain and agony anymore but her family. This event ruined her family for life. The father supported the family and now he is gone. How will they live? I am sure the father didn't mean to kill her since anger overcame him. I know what the father did was really bad."

12/11/2007 6:57:31 PM


My favorite thing about religion..excusing murder.

"Ruined the family's live"?

Where's that playing? Can I get tickets?

12/11/2007 7:04:49 PM


Fundies are usually funny. This one, on the other hand, makes me want to do some very terrible things to him.

12/11/2007 7:23:19 PM


She ruined their lives?


12/11/2007 7:25:37 PM


P.S...up until that quote Submitter submitted, that thread was full of Raza being a funny tool.
"If that's the case, then why don't you wear a cloth over your head? Come to think of it, why don't you wear a plastic bag over your head? One without holes, preferably."

"If millions of people were doing this around the whole, I would do it."
Self-deception via Argumentum ad populum, and…..spoken like a true sheep.

"You’ll just keep b-a-a-ing along with the edicts of the self-appointed “mouth-pieces of Allah”, no matter how absurd or destructive they may be."

"Argumentum ad populum is if many people believe it, then it must be correct.

I am not using that argument at all. If many people wore a plastic bag over head, then I would have the courage to do it. I am not arguing that it's a correct thing to do."

The question is, how can we convince Raza that suicide is cool?

12/11/2007 7:26:19 PM


It's time for another round of BLAME! THE! VICTIM! YAAAAAAY!!

12/11/2007 7:47:15 PM


This event happened in our area, just West of Toronto, Ontario. The girl has since died.
It appears there may have been a conflict between her father's Muslim beliefs and the girl's desire to fit in high school teen culture.
In a way, it was your typical teenage rebellion. I put my father through much of the same when I was sixteen.
Of course, he didn't kill me...

12/11/2007 9:35:46 PM


You are hereby banished from humanity. Yes, I can do that.

12/11/2007 10:05:27 PM


Why don't you just shut the fuck up & pretend to have a conscience, asswhipe?

12/11/2007 10:18:06 PM

Brian X

I get the feeling this guy isn't that popular around that forum. He missed the "EXmuslim" part, I take it?

12/11/2007 10:21:34 PM

Jake Steel

the stupidity and lack of compassion is dumbfounding.

12/11/2007 10:21:51 PM


When being a fundie is no longer even funny, but revolting and evil. My heart goes out to... umm... the rest of the females in that fucked up, deranged family.

12/11/2007 10:23:49 PM

Because if she didn't wear the hijab, the family would die of AIDS?, WTF?. I will be even more straightforward, the same argument couldn't be applied to her parents?. I never understand this medieval minds. We have to mourn for the "honour"(whatever it is for them), but not for the real observable killing of people. Be my guest.

12/12/2007 6:25:52 AM


Any religious belief than involves murdering one's children is insane. On the other hand it may benefit the entire human race to have something as heinous as this parent's genes wiped out of the breeding pool.

12/12/2007 6:32:38 AM


You're right. If she had just worn a hat, all this could be avoided.

12/12/2007 6:51:56 AM


So blaming the victim? The father ruined the family's life.

12/12/2007 10:42:52 AM

Mister Spak

Why couldn't the towelheads just go back to the islamic paradise they came from? It's obviously so much more moral than infidelland.

12/12/2007 11:33:22 AM


SHE ruined THEIR lives?

What about HER life?


12/12/2007 11:36:07 AM

Correction: Why couldn't her FATHER just listen to her? He ruined his daughter's life.

12/12/2007 3:36:33 PM


Well, Mister Spak above clearly has learned the right lesson from this story - unthinking bigotry is the answer!</sarcasm>

Anyway... Re. comment #386677: "We have to mourn for the "honour"(whatever it is for them), but not for the real observable killing of people." I'm afraid that in some ways this is a logical conclusion of revealed religion. In that worldview, the mystical, immaterial and "eternal" dwarfs in importance the transient material world, including the happiness or unhappiness of any people who dwell briefly in it. How, then, can anyone think the desires or suffering of one person could compete with the commands of the deity?

So in some ways, this killer and his accomplice son are being more honest and consistent than liberal or moderate monotheists. Still, I know who I'd rather be stuck on a desert island with, especially if I were female.

12/12/2007 5:47:25 PM


Sad especially since I believe that the hijab was more of a cleaniness law.
Keeps the blown dirt out of a woman's hair. Wait... We live in the modern world now, with things like showers...

They aren't needed anymore.

12/12/2007 10:05:55 PM


I'm sorry if I kill you. It twas' an accident, really.

6/2/2008 8:05:06 PM


Put a plastic bag on your head.

6/2/2008 8:09:44 PM

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