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< Responding to the question "How do you know that Mary even made it into heaven?" >


Along with the knowledge that early christians artifacts were much sought at that time. yet there are none of mary.

Kolni, HDForums.com 25 Comments [12/24/2007 2:40:41 AM]
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so Mary took her shit with her to heaven? WTF?

12/24/2007 2:56:11 AM


Wait a minute, that means none of the early saints went to heaven.

12/24/2007 3:11:48 AM


She apparently took Occam's razor with her.

12/24/2007 3:22:18 AM


Ohhhhhhhhh, I can't........ I just can't

12/24/2007 3:22:47 AM


"Along with the knowledge that early christians artifacts were much sought at that time. yet there are none of mary."

Well, that is a good proof. I can't find any of Glooscap's artifacts either, that proves he's in heaven too!

12/24/2007 3:49:28 AM


Perhaps this guy is a Catholic who believes in the doctrine of the assumption.

12/24/2007 4:03:14 AM


So all those splinters of the true cross prove that...

12/24/2007 5:42:01 AM


Which Mary are we talking about here?

12/24/2007 6:31:52 AM


Could be that she never existed.

12/24/2007 6:32:55 AM


Sorry for being obtuse.

There are many Marys in the Bible - Magdalene, the Virgin, sister of Lazarus, etc. Which of the Marys left artifacts and which did not?

Kolni's argument rests on his assumption that, since his Mary did not leave artifacts, she went to heaven. To come up with that, he must have come across research that the other Marys (who seemed to have been contemporaries) did leave artifacts and so did not go to heaven.

Hence, my question. Which Mary had the foresight to pack all her belongings before boarding?

Kolni must also have a list of all of Mary's belongings, otherwise one artifact left behind would disprove his assumption.

Of course, the most logical conclusion would be the bible is just fiction and the Assumption is just a myth perpetrated by the Catholic Church - similar to virgin birth and papal infallibility.

12/24/2007 6:49:51 AM


or maybe that proves that Mary NEVER EXISTED?

12/24/2007 6:52:09 AM

Did you learn anything at all about archaeology or history?

12/24/2007 8:47:56 AM

If Mary bore Jesus at 16(more or less)and Jesus died at 33(more or less), she had almost 50 years to leave artifacts. So?

12/24/2007 8:48:59 AM


So proof of nothing is in fact proof of something.


12/24/2007 5:39:55 PM


Assuming there was a Mary and a God, and if there is a heaven, why not?

12/24/2007 6:17:02 PM

Old Viking

Watson: She must have gone elsewhere, Holmes, there's nothing of hers here.

Holmes: <Draws pistol from coat pocket,shoots Watson>

12/24/2007 7:36:45 PM


Exactly how many named first century Palestinian women do we have evidence of?

12/24/2007 8:49:08 PM

David D.G.

Say it with me, folks:

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

And it sure as heck isn't evidence of some alleged mythical figure having ascended bodily, physically, into an equally alleged mythical heaven!

~David D.G.

12/24/2007 9:27:23 PM


Does. Not. Compute.

12/24/2007 11:28:48 PM


The truth is, it is a matter of faith for those who believe. People of those days didn't really have muchin the line of personal possessions, more especially such as could easily be identified with any individual from among the masses.

12/25/2007 12:53:39 AM


Does anyone else watch the Boondocks? I'm reminded of Rummie, Ed Wuncler's crazy friend, who said "there are knowns, unknowns and unknown unknowns. There are things we didn't know we didn't know." Reminds me of every fundie on this site.

12/25/2007 5:22:43 AM


Yes, because religious relics are SO reliable.

12/25/2007 10:21:01 PM


Ah. The legendary lost hymen of the holy virgin. Now THAT would be a relic worthy of the name

12/26/2007 3:53:49 PM


Okay, I can't bring myself to rant at this one.

Yes, we all know that, in all likelihood, Mary never existed (thus the lack of artifacts).
Yes, this person is using the old "if there's no evidence, you can't prove it didn't happen!" way of justifying his beliefs.

But really, it's not as bad as some of his other posts, I'm sure. I mean, just look at his post history.

12/26/2007 8:06:53 PM

Are you telling me that she had time to pack and install in Heaven?, WTF?

12/26/2007 9:01:19 PM

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