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I believe the government should be religiously neutral, but the government must take a stand on health issues. The Christian Lifestyle is the most environmentally friendly, socially responsible lifestyle that exists. The Atheistic Lifestyle of extreme environmentalism, socialism, feminism, pornography, abortion, and homosexuality leads to disease, death and destruction.

The government took a stand on smoking when they started the "is there anything dumber than smoking campaign". There should be a government campaign (for health reasons) that states "is there anything dumber than extreme environmentalism, socialism, feminism, pornography, abortion, and homosexuality" I include extreme environmentalism, socialism and feminism in this list because they are an attack on Christianity the same as the teaching of evolution.

clirus, CF 54 Comments [1/24/2008 4:50:31 AM]
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1/24/2008 4:54:47 AM


You say that the government should be 'religiously neutral' then you say that there should be a government campaign against x, y, and z because they are an 'attack' on Christianity?

(Admitted, you do say it's for 'health reasons,' but what isn't healthy about environmentalism, feminism, etc?)

You fail.

1/24/2008 5:03:05 AM


The Atheistic Lifestyle of extreme environmentalism, socialism, feminism, pornography, abortion, and homosexuality leads to disease, death and destruction.

Pornography:Univerally effects everyone, christians
too look at porn. To be honest I do at time, I know
not the best christian, at least im honest

Abortion: Again effects every female as well, no matter
what the faith or belief is

Homosexuality: You know not every gay person lives that sex craze
party lifestyle that so many fundies are obsessed with. Many
live in mono relationship. I don't agree with homosexualty entirely but it shoudn't be goverment concered(of what people do behind close door). oh, there are gay christians too

Others things, I really don't know much about them

1/24/2008 5:10:23 AM


Environmentalism is somehow incompatable with the "environmentally friendly" Christian lifestyle?


1/24/2008 5:13:24 AM


I think we need to tell Christians that atheists are not nearly as unified as they think.

1/24/2008 5:17:38 AM

the Good Witch

there is no "Christian lifestyle". Christians come from all walks of life and lifestyles. The same goes for Atheistic Lifestyle.

1/24/2008 5:27:02 AM

Mattural Selection

How does porn lead to disease, death and destruction?

- Disease? I don't know of anyone catching a disease from their own hand.
- Death? How? Malfunctioning DVD players? Death of a million paper-cuts?
- Destruction? Yeah I often feel like destroying everything after looking at naked ladies.

1/24/2008 6:17:10 AM


The diagnosis is: Acute Christianity of the Cerebral Cortex. Unfortunately untreatable...

1/24/2008 6:19:12 AM


But if we don't let the government think for us we're never going to meet Jesus...

I hate this kind of bullshit, this kind of retarded stereotyping and generalization. Just because someone doesn't like pornography, or abortion doesn't mean EVERYONE has to hate it.
This guy is suggesting thought control. He is suggesting government sponsored morality control. Let's face it, the government has no business telling us what to do in our free time. All it has to do is to

1. maintain a stable currency (failed)
2. provide the population with the basics necessary for survival (water, health-care, food, housing, also failed)
3. Protect the basic human rights as in punishment for murder, rape, usury (well...that'd be the g-men themselves), etc.

we're already being suffocated by too many laws that interfere with our daily lives regardless of the damage on the rest of society by any crime. Abortion damages one person (two, if you think the fetus is already alive) the woman. Smoking damages the smoker, the real danger is the fascist mind enforcement this guy is suggesting.

I'm getting too mad at this...

1/24/2008 6:23:14 AM


In other words, the government shouldn't favour any one religion, but they should implement the Cross-tian Fundamentalist political agenda.

Fuck off, asshole.

1/24/2008 6:24:47 AM


"Is there anything dumber than clirus"

1/24/2008 6:28:47 AM

Reverend Davidius

for the record:
Pornography leads to masturbation
masturbation helps clear the prostate
sex does a better job, i'm sure, but sometimes... you just gotta shake hands with the unemployed (dry spell)

1/24/2008 6:30:38 AM


One: fundamentalists are not environmentally friendly given their beliefs that if we wreck this world, the skydaddy will just give us another.

Two: socialised medicine and education are GOOD for the general population.

Three: treating the entire human race equally can only lead to positive results.

Four: porn has been here since we first started srawing on the walls of caves - Get Used To It. BTW: just because it's there doesn't mean you have to look at ti.

Five: if you don't like abortion, then make birthcontrol more accessible and less stygmatised.

Six: how do the actions of couples and people whom you actively shun negatively impact your life? It's like saying that all people with blond hair offend you! It's bigotry and ignorance - Get Over It.

Have a nice day!

1/24/2008 7:14:42 AM


but guys, he's right, if we all adopt the christian lifestyle we have to drop medicine etc. in no time the plague, tbc and aids will roam the world, killing millions, that would decrease the strain of the human population on the world

...good thinking clirus...or is that not wat he meant?[/sarcasm]

1/24/2008 7:53:53 AM


Sex still makes world go 'round...

1/24/2008 9:26:20 AM

They are indeed doing that. The problem is that in the Biblical Belt people are fatter, have more STDs than anywhere else, alcoholism is rampant, one of the supposedly more pro-life states has the highest rate of abortion in the country, and Lesbians are one of the healthiest demographic groups. Reality is what it is, not what you wish it to be.

1/24/2008 10:34:22 AM

Ok, if you think that waters polluted with metal waste, breathing polluted air and plagues due to climatic changes are good for health, that poverty caused by extreme capitalism is not harming anybody's health, that women who bear a lot of children and are not protected medically are healthier and that Lesbians aren't indeed healthier than straight men, it's because you live in an alternative reality.

1/24/2008 10:37:14 AM


"shake hands with the unemployed."

Great euphemism, Reverend Davidius. :)

1/24/2008 10:54:27 AM


err contradiction much?

1/24/2008 10:57:48 AM


Translation: I don't mind the government taking a religiously neutral stance, so long as they do everything my religion tells them.


1/24/2008 11:20:28 AM

Miles G

Good one, Cletus... How long did it take you and Brandine to get the spelling right in that one?

1/24/2008 11:39:17 AM


What the... oh, clirus, of course.

1/24/2008 12:10:30 PM


I include extreme environmentalism, socialism and feminism in this list because they are an attack on Christianity the same as the teaching of evolution.

'If I don't like it, it's automatically a direct attack on my religion'. Geez.

1/24/2008 12:13:46 PM

Mister Spak

"The Christian Lifestyle is the most environmentally friendly,"

You're late to the party, fundie, the liberals have been environmentally friendly for 40 years while you denounced them as anti christian for doing so.

1/24/2008 12:23:29 PM


"The Atheistic Lifestyleextreme environmentalism, socialism, feminism, pornography, abortion, and homosexuality leads to disease, death and destruction"

Well I'm an atheist, but I am not an extreme environmentalist, a socialist (although some of the European countries with slightly socialist systems seem to be desirable places to live), a feminist (I do of course believe in equal rights for men and women) or a homosexual. How do I fit in with CF's view of atheists?

1/24/2008 12:30:56 PM

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