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And why do some many non-Christians get married? I mean, marriage is an institution created by God. It shows up in the bible initially. There is no other evidence that it came from somehwhere else.

Macbeth, Christian Forums 24 Comments [8/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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#17282

Papabear

There were marriages looonnng before there were Xians or a Bible.
Non-Xians get married as a bonding experience and because it confers some legal benefits.

2/24/2006 5:31:33 AM

#17302

Julian

I'm starting to see why Lady Macbeth went mad.

2/24/2006 6:42:03 AM

#17338

David D.G.

(*sputter*)

What the heck does \"The Scottish Play\" think people did in the various civilizations (e.g., Babylon, Egypt, China) during the many centuries before the biblical writings were collected, or even in which they weren't known for many centuries afterward? Does he *honestly* think there was no other culture that created such a custom?!?

This is another fine example of \"breathtaking inanity.\" (Thank you, Judge Jones, for that wonderful phrase!)

~David D.G.

2/24/2006 3:00:16 PM

#47681

Redhunter

Even if any of what you said had been thought through or researched, there is still an advantage to marriage in the form of taxes and insurance among other things. Since no real life-altering actions are taken, gettin married for financial reasons is not only sound for some, but is something that has happened for thousands of years, all over the world.

How is it possible that someone can spew three lines of stupidity and it takes ten times as much work to undo it?

6/29/2006 10:35:48 AM

#86387

Tommy9898

People get married for the tax breakes and so it will be socialy acceptable to have children.

10/2/2006 5:09:55 AM

#129332

Adrian

Except that, you know, every culture on Earth has some form of marriage.

12/29/2006 8:03:39 PM

#129380

szenah

I suppose that it's pointless to tell you that the Pilgrims refused to have church marriage ceremonies because the Bible made no such provision.

12/29/2006 9:15:27 PM

#129399

Doctor Whom

Why do so many non-Christians breathe? I mean, breathing is an institution created by God. It says so right in Gen. 2:7.

12/29/2006 10:19:54 PM

#129422

Julian

Sourced from the net....

TOP 15 BIBLICAL WAYS TO ACQUIRE A WIFE

Find an attractive prisoner of war, bring her home, shave her head, trim her nails, and give her new clothes. Then she's yours.
-- Deuterononmy (Deuteronomy 21:11-13)

Find a prostitute and marry her.
-- Hosea (Hosea 1:1-3)

Find a man with seven daughters, and impress him by watering his flock.
-- Moses (Exodus 2:16-21)

Purchase a piece of property, and get a woman as part of the deal.
-- Boaz (Ruth 4:5-10)

Go to a party and hide. When the women come out to dance, grab one and carry her off to be your wife.
-- Benjaminites (Judges 21:19-25)

Have God create a wife for you while you sleep. Note: this will cost you a rib.
-- Adam (Genesis 2:19-24)

Agree to work seven years in exchange for a woman's hand in marriage. Get tricked into marrying the wrong woman. Then work another seven years for the woman you wanted to marry in the first place. That's right. Fourteen years of toil for a woman.
-- Jacob (Genesis 29:15-30)

Cut off 200 foreskins off of your future father-in-law's enemies and get his daughter for a wife.
-- David (I Samuel 18:27)

Even if no one is out there, just wander around a bit and you'll definitely find someone. (It's all relative of course.)
-- Cain (Genesis 4:16-17)

Become the emperor of a huge nation and hold a beauty contest.
-- Xerxes or Ahasuerus (Esther 2:3-4)

When you see someone you like, go home and tell your parents, \"I have seen a ...woman; now get her for me.\" If your parents question your decision, simply say, \"Get her for me. She's the one for me.\"
-- Samson (Judges 14:1-3)

Kill any husband and take HIS wife. (Prepare to lose four sons though).
-- David (2 Samuel 11)

Wait for your brother to die. Take his widow. (It's not just a good idea, it's the law).
-- Onan and Boaz (Deuteronomy or Leviticus, example in Ruth)

Don't be so picky. Make up for quality with quantity.
-- Solomon (1 Kings 11:1-3)

A wife?...NOT!!!
-- Paul (1 Corinthians 7:32-35)

12/29/2006 11:49:08 PM

#1015312

BrotherofZeus

How does marriage in it's current form show up in the Bible? I fail to see the connection here. As for evidence it came from somewhere else- how about the fact that almost every society has some sort of matrimony construct?

8/31/2009 5:40:42 PM

#1015332

Nowonmai

Marriage was around long before Christianity. So glad to burst your bubble on that one.

8/31/2009 6:07:57 PM

#1015409

Caustic Gnostic

Do those various species of monogamous birds understand their special tax status? Where do they obtain their nesting licenses?

8/31/2009 8:26:47 PM

#1189291

The Duelist

Read a history book, B.B.A.B., not a tome of fables, and your question shall be answered.

8/7/2010 10:58:13 AM

#1189344

Elia

Take your pick.

1)Marriage was around long before your god came into the picture via the feverish imaginations of ancient tribesmen who were determined to control their underlings.

2)Your god doesn't actually give a shit who gets married and if they kowtow to him in the process.

8/7/2010 2:13:26 PM

#1189346

Swede

There were marriages here in Scandinavia long before we were Christianized.
There have been people here (at least) some 8000 years, but we have only been Christian some 900 years.

8/7/2010 2:20:39 PM

#1250968

Good luck explaining the marriage of Julius Caesar's to Calpurnia.

1/31/2011 3:24:44 AM

#1251034

Canadiest

A real common belief in Fundieland, actual history means nothing to these people. Worse, when confronted with historical evidence (such as Pharohs having wives) they'll deny the validity of it, claim it historian deceit.

No-One outDogmas Fundies

1/31/2011 6:02:11 AM

#1251362

Big Jilm

The church didn't hijack marriage until around the year 900. But don't let facts get in the way of your hysteria.

1/31/2011 10:13:31 PM

#1251375

Ling

Or maybe it isn't. Marriage predates Judaism, after all.
If the only thing you read is the Bible, then you won't find any evidence for anything "somewhere else", stupid.

1/31/2011 11:27:06 PM

#1333640

LordMu

Dude, if you paid attention to Reality instead of a 2000 year old book of fairy tales, you'd know that every culture in human history has had marriage. The fact that you didn't know that shows how retarded you are.

And why do some many non-Christians get married?
Well, other religons have marriage customs.
And what about Atheists and Agnostics and Deists?
Well, they speak of this mysterious foreign concept known as "love".

9/18/2011 8:46:59 PM

#1333669

snowjohnson

I have argued with people like this. They say god made marriage with adam and eve. So only the christian marriage is valid. I was stunned by the level of arrogance and stupidity. This poster is a lost cause.

9/19/2011 2:17:19 AM

#1333795

Dr. Shrinker

@ snowjohnson

"They say god made marriage with adam and eve."

Do they ever provide a biblical verse to support that assertion? None of the ones I've ever talked to can.

9/19/2011 8:33:25 AM

#1367526

T-this is Poe's Law, right? Right? My fragile psyche can't handle any other answer.

1/19/2012 11:21:35 AM

#1367536

rw23

And for clarity, chasing up the evidential example suggested by #1250968:

"Caesar and Calpurnia married in late 59 BC ... the third and last wife of Julius Caesar ... She did not remarry after the death of Caesar."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calpurnia_Pisonis

But since when has evidence ever mattered to fuckwit fundies?

1/19/2012 11:55:04 AM