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I think atheism is harmful to society and an abuse of the first amendment, like shouting "Fire" in a theater. And one place it most certaily doesn't belong, and most certainly is deletrious is on the battlefield where morale and faith is everything to the mind of a soldier.

I'm not ashamed of myself for this belief. If they could courts martial this guy, I'd be all for it. I think they should discharge him immediately. I don't think they should allow atheists to serve in he military.

[later on in the thread]

I'm surprised the commander didn't pull out his 9 and cap him right then and there. We're talking about Iraq. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEFENDING THE WORLD AGAINST FUNDAMENTALISM that would have all our heads cut off. Atheists are the ones who are marginalized in this war. This is between competing religions for world domination.

Edwards, Christian Cross Talk 79 Comments [4/29/2008 3:34:44 PM]
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Patches

We're fighting against violent religious fundamentalism, so we need to kill everyone who doesn't agree with us!

4/29/2008 3:36:28 PM

Ambrielle

OMFG. This beggars belief.

4/29/2008 3:36:33 PM



I think atheism is harmful to society and an abuse of the first amendment, like shouting "Fire" in a theater.

And screaming; "Rapture!" or shouting; "Convert or go to hell!" is acceptable?

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEFENDING THE WORLD AGAINST FUNDAMENTALISM that would have all our heads cut off.

Are you for real?

4/29/2008 3:39:10 PM

Mister Spak

"I'm surprised the commander didn't pull out his 9 and cap him right then and there. We're talking about Iraq. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEFENDING THE WORLD AGAINST FUNDAMENTALISM that would have all our heads cut off. "

As long as it's not the fundamentalism that pulls out a 9mm and caps us right then and there.

4/29/2008 3:39:57 PM

moose

Well, I suppose that gratuitously capitalized bit has a point: it takes fundamentalism to fight fundamentalism. Rational thought sure doesn't work against fundamentalism; if it did, this website would be long dead.

4/29/2008 3:43:03 PM

t3h_fuhr3r

"This is between competing religions for world domination."
An admission!

4/29/2008 3:44:22 PM

Edwardo, the patron saint of douche-baggery

Wow: "I'm surprised the commander didn't pull out his 9 and cap him right then and there." Suicide bombers from the religion of 'peace,' and death threats from a guy who's beliefs state that god loves everyone no matter what (even though he'll make ya burn in hell for eternity based on what you do for about 80 years). Wonderful.

4/29/2008 3:44:50 PM

Quantum Mechanic

I nominate Edwards for combat in Afghanistan immediately.

4/29/2008 3:47:14 PM

Moondog

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEFENDING THE WORLD AGAINST FUNDAMENTALISM
Big shiny mirror award?

4/29/2008 3:55:04 PM

Allegory for Jesus

"This is between competing religions for world domination."

Ooookay...[backing away from the computer slowly...]

Edit: OMG! That's crazy Ed! Haven't checked out his blog for a while...good to see that his insanity hasn't ebbed...

4/29/2008 3:59:07 PM

Epic Wolf

...like shouting "Fire" in a theater.
Nah, that's just funny.
...where morale and faith is everything to the mind of a soldier.
Morale is, but not religious faith. Nice try though.

If they could courts martial this guy, I'd be all for it. I think they should discharge him immediately. I don't think they should allow atheists to serve in he military.
Because, y'know, atheists aren't true people or Americans anyways.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEFENDING THE WORLD AGAINST FUNDAMENTALISM that would have all our heads cut off.
, says the fundamentalist about another fundamentalist.

This is between competing religions for world domination.
At least he finally admits it.

4/29/2008 4:00:47 PM

DW

Just cos some dude didn't want to pray before going off on his patrol and having fellow soliders threaten him with fragging incidents is fucking lame.
Mean if they shot him that makes them a fucking traitor to the United States for killing their own men.

People like Edwards can fuck off from being an internet warrior going blah athiests shouldn't join the army, least the athiest in that link had the balls to go fight for his country and not like you hiding behind a computer screen doing fuck all while that dude risked his life in a warzone.

4/29/2008 4:01:26 PM

John

The old "fire in a theater" argument. I haven't heard that one since the Viet Nam war, when the hawks wanted to dispense with the First Amendment with regard to criticizing anything the government did during a time of war.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEFENDING THE WORLD AGAINST FUNDAMENTALISM

Yeah, like the Iraq war is really doing that ...

4/29/2008 4:02:42 PM

Ivy Mike

"I don't think they should allow atheists to serve in he military."


Be careful what you wish for, there, Keyboard Rambo. That'd cost you about 20% of the military, by current estimates. Wouldn't do that war for "domination" much good.

"This is between competing religions for world domination."

Wow, I thought it was between the civilized world and violent, fundamentalist terrorists. Silly me.

"I'm not ashamed of myself for this belief."

Shame is often absent from ignorant bigots.

Fuck you very much.

Signed: An active-duty ATHEIST serviceman.

4/29/2008 4:08:01 PM

Crazy Fundie

I think atheism is harmful to society and an abuse of the first amendment, like shouting "Fire" in a theater.

There is so much fail here that it’s difficult to unpack it all. I’ll try though:

- Atheism is a lack of belief in God or gods. It falls squarely under freedom of religion, and has nothing whatsoever to do with speech

- If an atheist chooses to air the reasons for his non-belief, that speech is protected by the First Amendment – without question!

- Atheism doesn’t pose a public health risk, so your comparison is garbage.

And one place it most certaily doesn't belong, and most certainly is deletrious is on the battlefield where morale and faith is everything to the mind of a soldier.

Tell that to the US Department of Defense, which is sending convicts and otherwise unsteady people into battle as cannon fodder:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/
content/story/2008/04/21/ST2008042103473.html

http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/46922/

I'm not ashamed of myself for this belief.

You fucking ought to be! But then again, it’s simply part of the irony that those who should be most ashamed are often the least likely to demonstrate that much self-awareness.

If they could courts martial this guy, I'd be all for it. I think they should discharge him immediately. I don't think they should allow atheists to serve in he military.

Court martial him for WHAT, you raving fucktard - disagreeing with the majority belief system?

I'm surprised the commander didn't pull out his 9 and cap him right then and there.

And I’m surprised you can use a computer, being as you're without a working brain. Hell, I’m surprised you can still breathe!

We're talking about Iraq. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEFENDING THE WORLD AGAINST FUNDAMENTALISM that would have all our heads cut off. Atheists are the ones who are marginalized in this war. This is between competing religions for world domination.

Is there an award for people who lack even the most basic level of self-awareness?

4/29/2008 4:17:16 PM

aaa

Let's send him to a minefield!

4/29/2008 4:18:40 PM

cyborgtroy

*walks into a theater*

*whispering*

We're going to do a controlled experiment to see whether atheism really violates the first amendment.

*ahem*

I'M AN ATHEIST!

...

FUCK YOU!
SHUT UP!
shhhhh!

*walks into a different theater*

*whispering*

Now we're going to change the experimental variable and see what happens.

*ahem*

I'M A THEIST!

...

FUCK YOU!
SHUT THE FUCK UP!

GTFO!

4/29/2008 4:25:34 PM

El Guapo

"Atheists are the ones who are marginalized in this war. This is between competing religions for world domination."

Does that mean Athiests won't be paying for your religious war and and dying in it? What does it even mean to be marginalized in a war?

More and more, fundies are speaking the language of WWE promotions, presumably their preferred venue for entertainment. I bet Jesus would have just loved this jackassery. "Blessed are the meek", etc.?

4/29/2008 4:26:10 PM

PsyCrow

So the point of the US troops being in Iraq and Afghanistan is to defeat Islam. I always thought it was about oil/money.

4/29/2008 4:28:57 PM

Thiniking Allowed

PsyCrow said:
So the point of the US troops being in Iraq and Afghanistan is to defeat Islam. I always thought it was about oil/money.

Only if you're a fundie.

4/29/2008 4:37:34 PM

malendras

"WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEFENDING THE WORLD AGAINST FUNDAMENTALISM"

What?!

You just said the commanding officer should have shot and killed the guy for not sharing your faith, then turn around and say we're trying to STOP fundamentalists who want to chop off heads?! How in the fuck is the human mind incapable of not realizing the irony there?

4/29/2008 4:42:49 PM

redfergus

The word 'Christian' and this insane babble somehow don't sit right together.

Those atheist soldiers aren't just going to let themselves get 'capped'. As if the US didn't have enough enemies to worry about.




4/29/2008 4:51:34 PM

Ranger Joe

I'm an atheist. I completed dozens of airborne missions in the middle east with the 82nd Airborne, as demolition specialist attached to a Force DELTA unit, and was hand selected amongst other Ranger Qualified soldiers for HPMs and elimination of HPTs.

I sustained injuries making me unfit for duty (a combination of bullets and shrapnel) and recieved a purple heart along with a bronze star for personal courage, sacrifice and valor on the field of battle. My confirmed kill count is well over 200 and while I was leading my squad as Master Sergeant, we sustained no casualties. Among my squad were extremlely christian soliders, two gays, a muslim and a few pagans. We all defended each other like brothers and never failed to achieve a mission objective.

All in all, sir...I say fuck you.

4/29/2008 4:52:23 PM

toothache

And I had just got my irony meter replaced.

Bastard.

4/29/2008 5:09:00 PM

Annabella

This is the shiniest mirror I've seen so far this year...

4/29/2008 5:14:46 PM
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