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I've read three 500 page books on Evolution. I know about it. Evolution does not explain the morals, conscience, etc.

Yes, something came from nothing. That is what Evolution teaches.

It also breaks two scientific laws and a theory.

Fruscainte, WoW Offtopic 71 Comments [11/1/2008 9:44:17 PM]
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#743611
stigmatic

Evolution easily explains morals and conscience. We are physically weak, therefore it is of benefit to us to cooperate.

And evolution doesnt have anything to do with how anything came into existance. That would be abiogenesis or the big bang.

11/1/2008 9:49:17 PM
#743612
G Zimmer

It also breaks two scientific laws and a theory.

Let me guess, the books you read were written by the morons over at Answers in Genesis, right?

11/1/2008 9:49:43 PM
#743614
Nick

Well, if they're 500 pages...

11/1/2008 9:53:00 PM
#743615
aaa

That thread is just terrible. Gas it.

11/1/2008 9:53:46 PM
#743619
Jezebel's Evil Sister

Sounds more like you read 500 three-page "books" on evolution, and they were all the same Chick tract.

11/1/2008 9:56:37 PM
#743620
upallnite

Pop-up books don't count.

11/1/2008 9:57:15 PM
#743621


Yay, nobody's said it yet.

[size=36][citation needed][/size]

11/1/2008 9:58:22 PM
#743622
Nowonmai

"Something from nothing"? That has nothing to do with evolution.

The bible has nothing to do with morals, or conscience. Upbringing does.

11/1/2008 9:58:59 PM
#743627
Jay-Sus

I've read three 500 page books on Evolution.

Bullshit.

11/1/2008 10:06:32 PM
#743628
John

Evolution doesn't say something came from nothing. It says one species came from another different ancestral species. Where the first "species" came from is unknown. But "unknown" doesn't mean "goddidit" - that's called the "god of the gaps" fallacy.

Evolution does not explain the morals, conscience, etc.

Evolution explains what happened, not why. We can speculate about, say, why we have opposable thumbs, but such things are just guesses. We only know that we have the thumbs and our earliest ancestors didn't.

11/1/2008 10:06:39 PM
#743631
Shadoboy

"I've read three 500 page books on Evolution"

All of them published by nuts like Kent Hovind and Jack Chick, I guess.

11/1/2008 10:09:21 PM
#743634


I've read three 500 page books on Evolution.

You must be an expert![/sarcasm

I know about it. Evolution does not explain the morals, conscience, etc.

You're right about that.

Yes, something came from nothing.

Like your god?

That is what Evolution teaches.

That's what religion teaches. Not evolution.

It also breaks two scientific laws and a theory.

Such as...?

11/1/2008 10:16:04 PM
#743639
Zemyla

I've figured it out.

The theory it breaks is called "intelligent design", and the laws it breaks are "God exists" and "God made man special".

11/1/2008 10:23:18 PM
#743642
Old Viking

I hope you didn't color outside the lines.

11/1/2008 10:26:59 PM
#743643
Robbie

Three 500 page books?

That's like a million pages!

11/1/2008 10:27:13 PM
#743650


"I've read three 500 page books on Evolution."

Really? Which ones? Be specific.

"Evolution does not explain the morals, conscience, etc."

Yes, actually, it does.

"Yes, something came from nothing. That is what Evolution teaches."

The Big Bang Theory has nothing to do with Evolution, nor does it say ANYTHING about what started the Universe. The Big Bang Theory only covers what happened a few tiny fractions of a second AFTER the big event. EDIT: Put another way, the Big Bang Theory only describes what has happened since a bit after the event and that there WAS an event, but it cannot describe what happened before, during, or immediately after.

"It also breaks two scientific laws and a theory."

Which ones? Be specific. Besides, "Scientific Laws" and "Scientific Theories" aren't what you seem to think they are. "Scientific Theories" are just collections of hypotheses that have evidence to support them and have not yet been disproven by experiment or observation. "Scientific Laws" are simply generalizations of a collection of theories. For example, a theory may attempt to describe a method of energy transfer, while a law would use that theory to give you an equation to figure out how quickly it can be done in a given situation.

11/1/2008 10:31:43 PM
#743659
RI

Evolution does not explain the morals, conscience, etc.

You may start with Richard Dawkins' book The Selfish Gene and work your way up from there. I guess it's not one of the three books you read.

11/1/2008 10:36:31 PM
#743670
myheadhurts

Wow, a whole 1500 pages on evolution and your still an idiot.

11/1/2008 10:49:26 PM
#743674
CrazyRoper

The only thing correct here is the third sentence.

11/1/2008 10:52:39 PM
#743675
Eden

There is a huge difference between reading books and understanding their content ;)

11/1/2008 10:54:40 PM
#743682
A Friend

Three 5 page chick tracts do not count as books on evolution.

11/1/2008 10:59:05 PM
#743710
Nate!

Okay, so one of the "scientific laws" broken is probably Thermodynamics 2: Let's Get Entropic. I can't imagine what the other ones could be.

11/1/2008 11:27:55 PM
#743713
bokken

AND a theory?! lol.

11/1/2008 11:29:28 PM
#743715
Nirjuana

Evolution hasn't got anything to do with the Big Bang

11/1/2008 11:30:24 PM
#743718
a mind far far away

It's interesting how he never mentions WHAT scientific laws and the theory that it breaks. I've read books on different subjects, too, doesn't mean that I necessarily understand what's being discussed. However, reading books on it is a good start. Just keep doing it, and maybe, just maybe, you might get it.

11/1/2008 11:33:32 PM
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