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[Exodus is the largest group of ex-gay ministries; they now target youth, including young women who experiment bisexually. Yvette Schneider is an ex-lesbian. This is in response to the song "I Kissed A Girl."]

Our combined experiences and the cultural influence we receive through music, television and movies all can have a collective influence on the direction our lives end up taking. To think that the music we listen to will not affect us is to discount the power that art has to stimulate our emotions and our minds. That is what artists strive to accomplish every time they produce a piece of art.

Rather than entertain thoughts about sexual experimentation and planting kisses on unsuspecting strangers, it would serve you better to spend your care-free years hanging out with your friends and just being young. That way, you won’t have to explain to your fiancé about the years you spent kissing girls and experimenting with your sexuality.

Men, just like women, want to feel special on their wedding night. They do not want you to give them what lots of other people already have, but what has been reserved especially for them. Then when you’re an adult, you won’t hear songs from your younger years that remind you of the poor decisions you made. Instead, you will hear familiar songs that remind you of your old friends and how much fun you had together.

Yvette Schneider, Exodus Youth Blog 36 Comments [11/12/2008 3:03:37 PM]
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Submitted By: GreenEyedLilo
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Haeron

"your old friends and how much fun you had together. "

Because obviously, NO-ONE finds sexual experimentation any fun at all. Oh no.

11/12/2008 3:06:06 PM



Epic song.

Also because it pisses off fundies.

11/12/2008 3:18:11 PM

Epic Wolf

Good job objectifying the concept for virginity and making women sound like a mere object in a dowry. Typical fundie sexism. Sad hearing it come from a woman. She makes it sound like without god, every girl is going to become a whore.

11/12/2008 3:21:03 PM



I Kissed a Girl sucks ass, but not because of that.

11/12/2008 3:21:52 PM

blah

Instead, you will hear familiar songs that remind you of your old friends and how much fun you had together [hooking up].

11/12/2008 3:22:49 PM

blah

*double post*

11/12/2008 3:22:49 PM

Aethernaut

Uh, I'd rather fuck around with somebody that's got a little experience under their belt, thank you very much. Virgins don't know what they're doing.

11/12/2008 3:38:07 PM

k

Men, like women, want to have a good relationship in bed as well as out of it. The best way to ensure this is to STAY CLEAN but GAIN EXPERIENCE. I can make my significant other pass out when going on them and I'm sure my SO is pretty happy about not being the first person I dated :)

11/12/2008 3:43:01 PM

blackgem

*Then when you’re an adult, you won’t hear songs from your younger years that remind you of the poor decisions you made. Instead, you will hear familiar songs that remind you of your old friends and how much fun you had together.*

Poor choices are part of growing up. But you're right, I wish I'd not made the poor decision when I was younger of trying to be straight and go out with guys. However, I got over that and also have very fun memories of experimenting with my female friends :D

11/12/2008 3:43:30 PM

Jax

"Men, just like women, want to feel special on their wedding night. They do not want you to give them what lots of other people already have, but what has been reserved especially for them."

Actually I'd prefer someone who has experience. Oh wait Aethernaut beat me to it.

11/12/2008 3:43:53 PM

Doctor Whom

You're right. I don't like hearing songs from my younger years that remind me of the poor decisions that I made -- most of all, the very poor decision to remain a Christian for as long as I did.

11/12/2008 3:49:50 PM

The L

tl;dr: "The media is guaranteed to brainwash you into being gh3y, so don't watch anything except Faux News!!"


"you will hear familiar songs that remind you of your old friends and how much fun you had together."

And kissing is fun. Your point?

@Aethernaut: Seconded. Two virgins in the bed is one too many, as I once learned from experience.

11/12/2008 3:52:19 PM

Will

"Men, just like women, want to feel special on their wedding night"


lolz

11/12/2008 3:55:24 PM

Grigadil

The schism here is that not everyone has such screwed-up self esteem as Yvette.

11/12/2008 4:00:42 PM

anonymous

"ex-lesbian"

Aw, man.

And how do you think experimenting with your sexuality necessarily implies homosexuality?
You could be a hetero experimenter or an abstinent lesbian.

11/12/2008 4:22:51 PM

Pyroclasm

Isn't their failure rate like 98%?

11/12/2008 4:36:58 PM

Elia

Unsuspecting? What makes her think every person someone experiments with doesn't know what's going on at all?

11/12/2008 4:55:03 PM

Martha Jones

Yes, because you want to have no idea about what goes on down there, it makes it more fun.

11/12/2008 4:55:42 PM

aaa

Get a life.

11/12/2008 5:21:06 PM

Rallymodeller

Meh. The Jill Sobule "I Kissed A Girl" is way better.

11/12/2008 5:25:37 PM

GigaGuess

Rather than entertain thoughts about sexual experimentation and planting kisses on unsuspecting strangers, it would serve you better to spend your care-free years hanging out with your friends and just being young. That way, you won’t have to explain to your fiancé about the years you spent kissing girls and experimenting with your sexuality.

If your fiance cannot accept that you didn't land from Heaven onto his lap, pure and virginal, and do, indeed, have a past, then keep looking. That is all.

@Pyroclasm

I don't think the failure rate is THAT high, but it's not great. And they have a flat out scary suicide rate if I'm not mistaken.

11/12/2008 5:33:16 PM

mockeldritch

"That way, you won’t have to explain to your fiancé about the years you spent kissing girls and experimenting with your sexuality."

You mean, you won't have any fun stories to share? I expect more from my future spouse.

11/12/2008 5:33:24 PM

Princess Rot

I read somewhere once that commodifying virginity*, and assigning it a higher value than non-virginity is essentially the same as commodifying non-virginity, typically because it continues to define people in terms of sex, instead of just as people with wants and needs.

Just wish I could remember where I'd seen that, because it was much more succinct than my half-assed memory.

*Also note that “virgin” usually implies a female.

11/12/2008 6:50:02 PM

enna

Someone is parroting lines in a desperate attempt to convince herself of something any fool could see is candy coated indoctrination.

11/12/2008 7:01:51 PM

484

If hypothetical wife told me she played around with girls in her youth, I would ask for the video.

11/12/2008 8:34:48 PM
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