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Poppy's girl, would you "empathize" with a woman who killed her 2-year-old child who was an extreme mental or physical defective? Would you refuse to condemn that? I guess I'm trying to get at what makes you think you are pro-life (or anti-abortion). Because if you wouldn't empathize with the mother of the 2-year-old, and would call that murder that should be punished, but not the killer of the unborn child, I hope you can see the problem with calling yourself "pro-life". Likewise, if you empathize with both of them, and wouldn't condemn either one, then you are pro-murder, it's just that you are selective about which murders are OK to commit. In other words, it's OK to kill babies that are judicially innocent, but it's a horrible crime to kill a man who has spent his adult life butchering babies and burning their bodies in an in-house incinerator whose smoke and ash has wafted through the breezes of Witchita for decades.

There we have it.

Watchman, Full Quiver Mission 42 Comments [10/24/2009 8:24:52 PM]
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warlike1919

What the Fuck?

10/24/2009 9:02:03 PM

K T

I guess that thought just rattled around without ever getting out.

10/24/2009 9:05:35 PM

werewolf

Too stupid to argue with. False analogies are fine and dandy when you're drunk but, stone sober, it's just embarrassing.

10/24/2009 9:10:05 PM

Thejebusfire

" it's just that you are selective about which murders are OK to commit. "

And you aren't? Please.

10/24/2009 9:24:21 PM

Philbert McAdamia

And the soulless test tube babies, and anyone associated with them, must be executed immediatelty without trial. Uh huh. 'Cause they of teh debbil.

10/24/2009 9:33:15 PM

Kat

So in other words, if we don't believe and agree with Watchman's logic, we are horrible pro-murder people worthy of Hellfire.

10/24/2009 9:37:45 PM

Hammurabi

Baby =! fetus =! zygote =! blastocyst

That's why we have different words for them, because they are different things.

10/24/2009 10:45:29 PM

Dax

That is the sickest most fucked up bunch of people. A bunch of old farts scared to death of letting a "female" think.
Asshole
Full quiver my ass. two bricks shy of a fuckin load more like it. Shit I haven't been this pissed off in a long time

10/24/2009 10:50:07 PM

Freethink

The Full Quiver Movement is responsible for the Duggars and the kids she keeps poppin' out. She's on 18 or 19, by now and counting. EWWW! A really disgusting movement, IMHO.

They think they've been charged by god to populate the earth, so they can have an "army of god" to rule over the rest of us. The more children "god sends", the better. Every child is a blessing from the sky daddy. The more, the better. YECH!

10/24/2009 11:09:44 PM

Professor M

Yeah, I really start to worry when anyone, fundie or not, breaks out the whole "empathy is evil!" schtick. I mean, who is screwed up enough to attack the trait which most contributes to our ability to get along in large groups, such as it is? With the fundies, it's even more ironic -- since they accuse everyone who disagrees with them of "trying to bring about the downfall of society" while they attack the one thing that makes "society" possible in the first place.

10/25/2009 12:08:58 AM

aaa

Oh, these twats.

10/25/2009 1:22:15 AM

Semi-Christian

....one of these days we need to explain why it's not defined as murder.

10/25/2009 1:40:02 AM

Clown

Unborn and 2-year-old are usually different things. Educate yourself.

10/25/2009 2:40:12 AM

Princess Rot

If you are so concerned about the children, why aren't you adopting some disadvantaged or disabled children?

Oops, no, I forgot. The whole point of the QF movement is that bio children are superior.

10/25/2009 4:48:57 AM

WMDKitty

The key word there is "UNBORN"....

10/25/2009 4:50:07 AM

EvoPagan

Anyone with a heart ought to feel pity for a parent (either one) whose child is experiencing so much hopeless suffering that the parent feels moved to free the child from a body that is just a prison. I don't think it's the "right" thing to do, though.

There is a big difference, however, between a child that has been BORN and a non-sentient fetus. I think that if the parents wish to terminate a pregnancy that is going to result in a hopelessly handicapped child, that is their right. I also believe that if they choose to bring such a child in the world, there ought to be a healthcare system in place to provide them all the help they need, regardless of their income and luck in finding a job with insurance benefits.

And finally, where I continually find a complete lack of empathy is amongst fundies. They have no empathy for women who become pregnant by rape, no empathy for parents who don't want to bring a hopelessly handicapped child into the world, no empathy for a very young girl who has made a mistake and gotten pregnant. They have no empathy for living, breathing, sentient beings. The only empathy they are capable of is for a clump of cells that they would be unable to identify if they saw it outside of a womb. That is a sign of deep mental illness, my friends, and it scares the shit out of me.

10/25/2009 5:23:14 AM

Panz

Translation;

"It's not ok to kill a clump of cells because i'm a moron and think just what my preacher tells me to think. But later if they're of a different color, religion, political bias, or for some reason just don't agree completely with me, then you can kill them"

10/25/2009 5:55:50 AM

John

A two year old child is an independent person. A fetus isn't a child. It's a growth in the mother's body, which can't sustain itself without a physical connection to her bloodstream.

10/25/2009 6:06:38 AM

campbunny

That's some graphic imagery there.

10/25/2009 7:12:42 AM

louislois

Aren't the Full Quiver people the ones with grossly large families? So large that they can barely support all the children they decide to have.....?

10/25/2009 8:20:15 AM



And your point is?

10/25/2009 9:11:34 AM

I read about the afterlife

"but it's a horrible crime to kill a man who has spent his adult life butchering babies and burning their bodies in an in-house incinerator whose smoke and ash has wafted through the breezes of Witchita for decades."


Butchering babies? Burning their bodies in an in house incinerator? I am worried about your mental health, good sir. This paranoia and hallucinations are not normal and you should probably see a therapist.

10/25/2009 10:21:08 AM

Vince

even this fuck felt the need to make the example with a 2 year old instead of an unborn.

not feeling convinced about the worth of an embryo anymore watchman?

10/25/2009 11:10:31 AM



Apples and oranges, Watchman. That's like saying someone who had scrambled eggs for breakfast had just slaughtered chickens.

An embryo/fetus/zygote is not a child or a person. The women whose lives Dr. Tiller saved, however, were people.

10/25/2009 12:20:39 PM

Ken

If you have to bring "as many babies as God gives you" into the world, wouldn't it be better for them to be able to support themselves? Why would God give you severely deformed or disabled children in the first place?

See, this is why I don't buy this religious reproductive crap.

10/25/2009 12:28:54 PM
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