Quote# 83674

First, masturbation can be a form of homosexuality because it is a sexual act
that does not involve a woman. If a man were to masturbate while engaged in other
forms of sexual intimacy with his wife then he would not be doing so in a homosexual
way. However, any man who does so without his wife in the room is bordering on
homosexuality activity, particularly if he’s watching himself in a mirror and being turned
on by his own male body.

(PG: 24)

Mark Driscoll, Porn again Christians 98 Comments [9/8/2011 3:40:43 AM]
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*cue the I'm Too Sexy song*
Seriously, that's all that I could think of when I read this. XD

9/8/2011 3:44:38 AM


So? Even if this is true, why should it be of the slightest relevance or importance?

9/8/2011 3:50:53 AM

Percy Q. Shunn

9/8/2011 4:05:35 AM

Not everybody fantasizes about the same thing you do when they masturbate.

9/8/2011 4:15:35 AM

Raised by Horses

"Porn again Christians"?

I'll come back and write a proper response to this when I'm done giggling and snickering.

9/8/2011 4:18:17 AM


Brilliant. You've just redefined 95% of the male population as borderline homosexual. Getting them to admit to full homosexuality from that point is simple.

Mark Driscoll is truly the most sublime agent of the homosexual conspiracy.

9/8/2011 4:21:48 AM


So by this definition, if a woman masturbates, it's not a homosexual act because it involves a woman?

9/8/2011 4:42:23 AM

I just made the mistake of reading that entire pamphlet...holy crap, what a load of repression...

9/8/2011 4:42:42 AM

So every man is gay?

9/8/2011 4:50:40 AM

Mister Spak

Fundie thinking is a form of retardation because it does not lead to any intelligent conclusions.

9/8/2011 4:51:16 AM

"masturbation ( ... ) does not involve a woman"

I know a few women that would disagree...

9/8/2011 4:52:59 AM


COOL! ALL men are gay! Life is getting better!

9/8/2011 4:55:54 AM


So...If(when) I fantasise about screwing a nun, it's not gay because it involves a woman?
Does that make it a chriastian love act?

9/8/2011 4:57:15 AM


Masturbation is gay, fellas, even if you're thinking about a woman while you're doing it!

Seriously, could this guy make any LESS sense?

9/8/2011 5:13:29 AM


*Ahem* Mark Driscoll, so you think you know what men are fantasizing about when then masturbate? How can you know? Do you perhaps argue because of your very own experience? What are YOU fantasizing about? Might it involve ... getting turned on by watching yourself in a mirror?

Just asking.

9/8/2011 5:17:19 AM

Big JIlm

You sure have given this a lot of thought.

9/8/2011 5:29:24 AM


What if a woman watches you masturbate? If you record your session on tape and send it to a female to watch does that count? If you post the video on YouPorn does that give you immunity from being gay?

9/8/2011 5:31:53 AM

Jedi Knight

Two women having sex is not homosexual?

9/8/2011 5:44:04 AM


It involves a woman if a woman does it.

9/8/2011 5:45:01 AM

Talking from personal experience here Mark?

9/8/2011 5:45:53 AM


If I'm already gay, does that mean I'm off the hook? I can keep masturbating?

9/8/2011 5:51:01 AM


I think this is stupid. I assume he's talking only to men when he says "it doesn't involve a woman," but even there, he's on thin ice - most straight men would look at images of women or imagine women while masturbating.

The main issue I have with masturbation is that it is a poor substitute for the marital relationship. It is essentially a selfish act, since one gives and receives pleasure to oneself, whereas in the actual sex act, one is giving and receiving pleasure to and from another person. Masturbation is lonely and one sided, and not what God had in mind for sexuality imo.

9/8/2011 6:37:27 AM


I used to babysit a little kid named Mark Driscoll, I sure hope you're not the same one. He was a cute, smart kid from a nice family, I'd sure hate to think he fucked up his chances in life by going fundy.

9/8/2011 6:38:26 AM

I find the amount of time spent by fundies on considering the minutiae of other people's sexual behaviour extremely disturbing.

9/8/2011 6:51:42 AM


You're as retarded as Driscoll is.

9/8/2011 6:52:07 AM

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