When I was eighteen years I noticed the 3_4_5 right at the start of pi. I thought it odd that the Pythagorean triplet would begin right at the start of pi but gave it no more thought. Years later I noticed the 1_1_2 at the start of the square root of two and thought that this discovery was strange. These two oddities both at the same position fanned my curiosity. During the many years of examining pi (p), v2 and S I found that these three constants have a very odd interwoven relationship which I illustrate in Document A.
These what I call oddities could not have been made by chance alone on pi, our most popular constant, v2 and S so therefore must been made intentionally. If these oddities are the result of chance alone then one should expect these oddities to appear on many random numbers. This is not the case.
Only one entity could manipulate these three constants to produce oddities that we can detect. Only one entity could do this specifically on these three constants and not on other numbers. It seems that God not only could but has formed the geometry of space and even defined the fundamentals of mathematics. He ingeniously manipulated the geometric fabric and the default mathematics of the universe so that we can detect and analyze the oddities and conclude that only a great intelligence can accomplish this and therefore we can know that God exists.
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No one made the numbers. They are the way they are because of pure logic.
What's with this odd assertion "by chance alone" that crops up all the time in theistic arguments? Where on Earth do you get this idea that things cannot happen by chance? Almost everything happens by chance alone. It's absurd to say otherwise.
David - He's talking about the right-triangle 3^2 + 4^2 = 5^2. Which...our number system kinda structures that way out of pure logic.
IF he wanted to argue from a biblical standpoint he'd have had a better chance at using "e" - because it pops up randomly everywhere in higher mathmatics.
The only reason pi looks that way is because we represent it using a base 10 decimal system. If we had 8 fingers on each hand then our representation of pi would look something like 3.243F6A8885A308D31319...
The importance of pi is not how it looks or how it is represented, but the relations between it, circles, triangles, and other parts of mathematics and physics.
He's reading pi wrong. The pattern is not that we have 3, 4, 5, but that we have 1,1 between them. These represent the two fingers of the Vulcan greeting, therefore Star Trek is true.
And in base 12 pi is more like 3.1848095..., which you'll notice has no pythagorean triplet. If I were going to build patterns into my fundamental constants, I'd built them into the tidier numbering systems (on which criteria base 12 beats base 10), but I suppose that could be a personal quirk.
When I was eight years I noticed the great taste of chocolate ice cream. I thought it odd but gave it no more thought. Years later I noticed the great taste of vanilla ice cream and thought that this discovery was strange. These two oddities both in single flavor ice creams fanned my curiosity. Then I discovered coffee ice cream.
During the many years of eating ice cream I found that these three constants have a very odd interwoven relationship.
These what I call oddities could not have been made by chance alone on chocolate ice cream, our most popular flavor, vanilla and coffee, so therefore must been made intentionally. If these oddities are the result of chance alone then one should expect these oddities to appear on many random flavors. This is not the case.
Only one entity could manipulate these three flavors to produce oddities that we can detect. Only one entity could do this specifically on these three flavors and not on others. It seems that God not only could but has formed the taste of great ice cream. He ingeniously manipulated the simple flavors and the default ingredients of the universe so that we can detect and analyze the oddities and conclude that only a great intelligence can accomplish this and therefore we can know that God exists.
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Thank you God.
and the start of e is 2_1_2_1_2 in the same notation. Wooooo!
Now the implications of this are manifold, because it means G_d must use base 10 maths and therefore binary is satanic ...
Since high math came down to us through the Greeks (and other high cultures of the ancient world who had them) and the Torah and Bible are from cutures that didn't possess them at that time,,,
Bow before Zeus and the entire Greek pantheon and apologize for your ignorance.
"It seems that God not only could but has formed the geometry of space and even defined the fundamentals of mathematics."
I wondered if I could call that a stretch or a leap in logic but realized it's not even remotely a connection in any way. Especially when his source for this one God is a book that got Pye wrong and couldn't tell the difference between 4 and 6.
Well, this is certainly an interesting change of pace from what we usually see around here.
Still fucking insane, but a nice change none the less.
Checkmate for the win.
@Thrutch
and the start of e is 2_1_2_1_2 in the same notation. Wooooo!
The zip code for Baltimore, Maryland. Coincidence?
Wooooo, indeed.
"Only one entity could manipulate these three constants to produce oddities that we can detect. Only one entity could do this specifically on these three constants and not on other numbers. It seems that God not only could but has formed the geometry of space and even defined the fundamentals of mathematics. He ingeniously manipulated the geometric fabric and the default mathematics of the universe so that we can detect and analyze the oddities and conclude that only a great intelligence can accomplish this and therefore we can know that God exists."
Yet, that same 'God' didn't know what the pre -Biblical ancient Greek mathematicians did:
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...because according to your precious 'Word of God', Pi = exactly 3. Never mind his supposed 'omniscience ', even him with all his 'omnipotence' couldn't build a wheel on the basis of his own mathematical model.
Seems that those ancient Greek mathematicians are greater Gods than yours, Vasillating. Why? Because Pi to just 39 decimal places means that one could describe a perfect circle the size of our observable universe with enough precision to meet up at the starting point with only an atom's -length of deviation.
Seems they were more omniscient than him - and they determined that the Earth was spherical way before the Biblical 'model' of the universe: a flat earth, with corners, on pillars, with a solid hemispherical 'Dome' that was the 'Firmament'.
Moral: Zeus >>>>> God. Deal with it.
3.1415 /= 3_4_5. So right off the bat, you're wrong.
Secondly, nobody is claiming that the value of pi is random. Pi is a precisely defined mathematical relationship between the circumference and the diameter of a circle. If you use the same values, you get the same result. It's not a random process.
Third, isn't this just an appeal to design and/or complexity?
Yes, and god only operates in base 10. And creates ambiguous signs that depend on a ton of conjecture and cherry-picking. Really, how could I have missed this simple truth?
...I'm frankly embarrassed that someone knows what pi is and can still be that insanely stupid.
"When I was eighteen years I noticed the 3_4_5 right at the start of pi."
Yeah, any digit less than a three is hardly worth mentioning.
Darn right!. The first six digits of pi, in the key of C, spell "Every Christian Follows Christ: God's Demand!" Of course, in the key of G, it's "Beelzebub, God's Challenger, Glorifies Damnation Always".
It seems that God not only could but has formed the geometry of space and even defined the fundamentals of mathematics. Or maybe it was Satan. Wow. Tough choice. Good luck, Vasilios. Pick wrong in you're in the Lake O'Fire©.
Wrong on both "counts." It's 3.14159 1nd 1.4142. Why stop there? If your doing numerology, find something in e, the natural number, 2.71828.
Oiudsafgn asoina, tysoijg sjdfn, asdljkr. Yasdlgk dflkv, "sadfkgjn dfkjnrvj" gkjsa. Hsrlkj!!
Is that what this is saying?
Wait...first God wrote in his book that pi = 3,
but then pi = 3.14159265359, so; God?
Mo wonder I had so much trouble with math.
They told me "Pi are square" - but pie are round!
Cornbread are square. Hah!
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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