It is interesting to note some statistics that have come to light in recent years. First, we must remember that 1963 was when evolution received federal funding as it applies to education. Before 1963 the average grade school textbook had somewhere between one thousand and fifteen hundred words on the subject of evolution. After 1963 that number took a dramatic jump to right around 34,000 words on the subject of evolution. In nature, such jumps usually take on catastrophic tolls. Just take for example the El Nino floods out here in California back in 1996. In Sacramento we usually get anywhere from 17 to 20 inches of rain a year and it mostly comes in the rainy season which lasts from the end of November till right around the middle of April. But, in the winter of 1995/1996 we received around 42 inches of rain. The result was flooding like I have never seen before. Now, that was only a 100 percent difference over normal; not the mega increases that we'll see below. Let's look at what evolution has gotten us:
Sexually transmitted diseases - Gonorrhea: ages 15-16 - Up 226%
Scholastic Aptitude Test Scores - Decline in Student - From 980 in 1963 to 900 in 1990
Divorce Rates - Up 111% since 1963
Unmarried Couples - Up 536% since the mid 1960's
Unwed Birth Rates - Up 325% since 1963
Pregnancies To Girls Ages 10 thru 14 - Up 553% since 1963. The difference between the two figures is being aborted.
Violent Crime Offenses - Up 995% since 1963.
The statistics don't lie and it isn't just a coincidence that these statistics have escalated. When you start teaching people that they are only animals they start acting like animals.
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I know two of those statistics to be false; that supports the sensible assumption that you made them up.
And that weather thing, what should I teach to get hot but cloudy summer days like I prefer them? Macramé?
1) Citation very much fucking needed because this looks just like an email forward that has been doing the rounds.
2) Statistics can lie on occasion and it's certainly possible to draw the wrong inferences from them.
3) Correlation does not imply causation and it is entirely possible for it all to be conincidence.
4) If you look at much of Europe, you will find that many of your stats are better there but very few people in Europe deny evolution (discounting legitimate scientists who have minor quibbles about the exact details).
5) From the above, we can deduce that it is not the teaching of evolution but some other factor which is responsible for those stats (assuming they aren't just made up which they appear to be).
Before 1963, we were blissfully free of fundies screwing with our science and history courses, and in fact most of the gruesome stuff you mentioned, when provable, happened after they took over our politics as well.
If you look back to the year 1953, a foreigner looking in would assume the US could do no wrong. We had just led the charge in defeating the Nazis and Imperial Japan, and had done exactly what the UN wanted in regards to Korea. It should be noted that at this point, there was no fundie control of US politics. Fast forward to today, when fundies have destroyed all programs that made this country the equal of the West, and lost all its money being bogged down in two endless wars, causing a recession which affects the entire world. If you will notice, all of these things happened after the election of Reagan.
What's that you were saying about correlation and causation?
In 1963, also, JFK was assassinated, CS Lewis died, and probably most suspicious, Kenner introduced the Easy-Bake Oven. And even assuming your statistics are accurate, that has as much relevance as the introduction of evolution to textbooks.
Post hoc ergo propter hoc. Look it up.
These things are not a result of evolution.
Many of them are a direct result of conservative/republican policies. No Child Left Behind, Abstinence only education, underfunding of our education system, etc.
No, no, no, no, no, no. Evolution isn't the cause of all these problems. They're caused by taking prayer out of school. Haven't you been reading fundie websites?
And the sale of George Foreman grills is up 200,000% since their introduction compared to the period of time during which they did not exist.
It's fun to fiddle with numbers, especially when you don't have to provide sources.
Post hoc ergo propter hoc
What other factors have changed since 1963? Has the population increased? has population densities increased? Has the reporting of statistics become more accurate (e.g. we no long hide unwed mothers away during their pregnancies, so we are more aware of the numbers today than we used to be)?
Your connections are "Post hoc ergo propter hoc"
How you could come to the conclusion that the teaching of evolution is somehow directly responsible for those statistics is beyond me. You clearly are not educated. Your argument is not only invalid, it's also irrelevant because evolution has nothing to do with the increase in the phenomena that you listed.
Since Jesus was born:
Nuclear explosions on earth are up 1,000,000,000%
Diarrhea from Taco Bell is up 5,000,000%
Shootings are up 9,000%
statistics don't lie (but liars use statistics).
Maybe if religious conservatives weren't hellbent on destroying public education and Sex Ed, we'd be in a better situation right now.
The blame doesn't lie with evolution, it lies soley on YOU and your retarded ilk.
Butt-sniffing by Doberman Pinschers - Up 752%
Paintball-related Crotch Injuries - Up 486%
Accidental Ingestion of Barbie Doll Heads - Up 250%
Dolphin Suicides - Up 327%
Bonobo Make-Up Sex - Up 921%. Half of that is related to Paintball-related Crotch Injuries.
Also since evolution was introduced in to textbooks in 1963:
Moon Landings up infinity%.
Smallpox infections down 100%.
Soviet Russias down 100%.
Teaching evolution sure has done a lot of things hasn't it.
Um, yeah. Assuming the Consequent bud. Look it up...
Oh, and for your facts, [Citations needed]
Most of those things are related to Sexual Education in schools. If you teach young kids how to have safe sex, you get fewer unwanted pregnancies and STDs. If it's OK to have kids without being married first, the rate of unwed mothers is going to rise.
As far as I remember, there were no girls ages 10 through 14 that got pregnant in my school.
What do you mean with "only animals"? What's wrong with animals? Swans, for example, stay monogamous their whole life.
Your statistics do lie!
Maybe women filed for divorce more often, or did not get married in the first place because they are working outside the home and are not financially depending on men.
Maybe school testing goes down because in every other country in the world they teach science, and here you want to teach bible crap?
Maybe crime rate goes up because people are poor and desperate, don't know how to feed their own! (Why do I always reply to those idiots like they actually read this?)
Yet another yahoo who hasn't taken (or at least understood) a statistics class.
The fact that fluorescent lighting has increased since 1963 is not the reason we have many more NFL teams today than in 1963.
Though the mass conversion to radial tires predated it, radial tires did not cause Pluto to be reclassified as a dwarf planet.
That most serial killers ate carrots before they started killing, does not mean carrots cause serial killings.
P.S. Statistics DO lie when in the hands of morons.
lies, mostly.
also, fuck off.
The statistics don't lie
Sure they do.
34,000 words on evolution in grade-school textbooks? That would be over 100 pages on the subject - about a third of a grade-school textbook. Beyond mentioning it in basic grade-school biology, it's not normally taught until high school, so 100 pages on it in a grade-school textbook is nonsense.
And gravity is responsible for the fall of man, quantum mechanics make people uncertain about God, and electricity makes them see trickery in preachers. Damn ALL modern education and science!
It has to go so that people can believe bronze age fairy tales.
Europe: Secular education. Evolution taught as fact .
Holland: Legal brothels in Amsterdam. Cannabis legal in Amsterdam ('Coffee Shops'). Drug use tolerated in general. Holland one of the first countries in the world to legalise gay marriage.
Holland had the lowest rates of teenage pregnancies in Europe, if not the world.
No earthquakes or tornadoes/hurricanes in geologically stable & meterologically temperate (respectively) Europe. Your argument is invalid, Dave.
Seriously...that last statistic about violent crime rates being up 995% since 1963 was pulled directly out his ass. It went up by 400% between 1960 and its peak in 1991, and has been cut in half since then. Basically, it is double what it was in 1963, and at the most is 225% higher.
When the facts can't match up with your ideology, shamelessly lie through your teeth = the Fundie motto
It's all so clear now; of course those things depend on the amount of words on Evolution in textbooks! None of those have anything whatsoever to do with the sexual revolution!
You do know that girls reach menarche at a younger age now than fifty years ago, right?
100% of all incited statistics are worthless.
Still, I'll play along. Hmm, those are some mighty concerning statistics there. Pray tell, how do they compare to those of Japan, Germany and all the other countries where evolution has been taught without apology for decades?
You go ahead. I'll just wait.
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