There's two types of unbelievers. people avoid Jesus for two different reasons. People avoid Jesus as savior because they think they don't need a savior. They think they are good people. A lot of atheists would say "i'm a good person". And the person who says "i'm a good person and I don't need Jesus", ah, your avoiding Jesus as savior. Simple as that. And then there's the other person that avoids Jesus. He avoids Jesus because he just likes to sin. He likes to chase women he likes to get high. He likes to smoke the bong. I know these things man. I know these things first hand.
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I am an atheist and I consider myself to be a "good" person. I don't avoid Jesus, it is Jesus who is avoiding me, or maybe he just isn't there, either way I don't care because Christianity is bunk.
For Gene, he was a woman chasing bong smoker (not that there is anything wrong with that) and now is most likely a fundie hypocrite.
You gotta love the atheist hour. Only two kinds of unbelievers, and they both believe.
What about the third kind Gene, the kind that doesn't think there is any God. Wait, what about the forth, the kind that asserts there is no god. The fifth, one that believes in a supernatural realm but not yours. Hmm..the 6th...well you get the picture.
At least he is firing up the bong instead of executing heretics. Whatwith the history of Calvanists and the recent comments on Unchained radio, one would be wise to sleep with one eye open when Calvanists are around.
Gosh do I feel left out, what's a lesbian, pagan, married, non-chasing, too old to smoke a bong girl to do. Avoiding Jesus as a savior huh? I want to experience the stampede Sunday morning when my wife and I show up at the local Tabernacle of the Terminally Straight White Jesus to apply for salvation. The only question I have is whether they'd stone us, burn us at the stake or toss us off a cliff.
honestly, I am Ignostic, and I don't do drugs, rape, kill, prostitute, etc.
Now a christian lives right down the road, and he does all of the above, with the exception of killing, I think.
Gene, you'll need to see a chriopractor with the size of that paintbrush you're swinging around.
I don't bother with the Jesus thing because I find my conscience quicker and more reliable than thumbing through a Bible for the answer. I put myself in the other guy's shoes. You put yourself in what you are convinced is Jesus' sandals.
The problem with fundies. I don't claim to be infallible, but they claim to have an infallible source, so they're always right.
"Right"</Bill Cosby>
Well, problem is. Some people are Christians and are good persons despite of their beliefs anyway. And 2/3 of the population aren´t Christians and have the same effect. As long as they act accordingly, who needs a saviour?, of what?. Second, we´re all sinners, according to the Bible. The point?
HE? What about she? She likes to be with friends, she likes to hang on the net, she likes flowers and plants, languages and books. She has never gotten high, or smoken anything whatsoever. I am not a particular good person, just like anyone else.
I am just waiting for confirmation that Jesus existed.
Come now, marijuana is not a sin! It's good in moderation! Heck, if Jesus was alive today, He might at one point smoke out of His old bong. Probably not too much, but hey, you get the idea. Even the holy like highs.
Jesus never once damned the smoking of a bong or the combustable product. Also "Thou shall partake of the herb,,," an Aspect of Rastafarianism, people so close to your God they have a nickname for Him.
It also sounds like you once partook and are playing the biggest bullshit game Christians use, the "born again" gambit. We're all only born once and our pasts cannot be erased by whatever we become, forgiveness from an imaginary person or church doesn't change what you were or have done.
I myself can appreciate some turning their life around, paying a price for their misdeeds and becoming a better person,,but if you say you found Jesus you get no points as you're more likely to sin it up and ask for forgiveness from the wrong people on a monthly basis.
Does everything break down to dichotomies for you people?
How about a third type: the type who has read the bible, the only real source we have of Jesus and his ministry, and discovered it to be hopelessly contradictory and thus if negligible value.
"A lot of atheists would say "i'm a good person". And the person who says "i'm a good person and I don't need Jesus", ah, your avoiding Jesus as savior. Simple as that. And then there's the other person that avoids Jesus. He avoids Jesus because he just likes to sin . "
For a start:
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I've never whipped people, to drive them out of a place just because they were doing a completely legal practice (Romans 13:1-5). And isn't Anger a deadly Sin?
Thank fuck I'm an Atheist then. 'Jesus because he just likes to sin '? You said it, I didn't. [/smartarse]
I don't "avoid" Jesus. I simply don't believe that he exists. This has nothing to do with "liking to sin". I don't know why it is so hard for fundies to grasp the meaning of atheism, but then again fundies are not known for their mental prowess, are they?
"People avoid Jesus as savior because they think they don't need a savior. They think they are good people. A lot of atheists would say "i'm a good person". And the person who says "i'm a good person and I don't need Jesus", ah, your avoiding Jesus as savior. Simple as that."
Muslims believe Jesus - 'Isa, a Jew; yet Iran wants to 'erase Israel from the map' - is an important prophet in Islam (just not the final one), yet Jews - from ultra-orthodox Hasidim to Liberal Reform - don't recognise your Jesus as their 'Messiah'. John 14:8'; 'No man comes to the Lord but by me', yet Romans 11:26-32 says that ALL Jews - even non-religious ones (the pork & shellfish-eating Jew Adam "Man Vs. Food" Richman) - are going to Heaven regardless, bypassing the very 'Saviour' they don't recognise?
My neck of the woods - Yorkshire - is known as 'God's Own Country'. We Yorkshiremen - due to our penny-pinching natures [/Stereotypes R Us] - are referred to as the '12th Lost Tribe of Israel'. So there's me all sorted after I cark it, see thi' by 'eck, tha' knows! [/Monty Python 'Four Yorkshiremen' sketch] There's your entire doctrine & 'beLIEfs' destroyed, then.
'Simple. '
-Mitchell Gant (Clint Eastwood), "Firefox"
There's two types of unbelievers. people avoid Islam for two different reasons. People ignore the teachings of His Prophet because they think they don't need them. They think they are good people. A lot of atheists would say "i'm a good person". And the person who says "i'm a good person and I don't need Islam", ah, your avoiding The Way. Simple as that. And then there's the other person that does not follow Islam. He avoids it because he just likes to sin. He likes to chase women he likes to get high. He likes to smoke the bong. I know these things man. I know these things first hand.
I don't avoid Jesus, I just haven't met him yet. It seems he's the one avoiding me.
Why are you avoiding Odin?
Oh, so you like to chase women, get high, smoke the bong, Genie-boy?
I have news for you, dearie; if you're a "good" person just to score points with some Sky-Bully, then you're NOT a good person.
You're forgetting the other type of unbeliever--the one that honestly does not believe that your God or Jesus exist, because s/he has never seen any reliable evidence of ANY deity existing, or ANY evidence that the supernatural is real.
You know, the real one.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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