Anyone that has taken care of a day old child realizes that that little creature is SELFISH and SELF WILLED beyond all belief. As that child grows, you do not need to teach him to be mean or disrespectful to his siblings, it comes NATURALLY. In fact, you will spend 18 plus years trying to instill “good” behavior into an organism that left to its own self would be anything but good with out a great deal of correction... So why do people get all hung up on “innocent” children. I sure wish you would have given me one of those “innocent” children to raise instead of the three sinful children that I did raise. Come on people get a grip of the obvious before your nose. I have never once met an “innocent” two year old. You are not dealing with reality if you believe children must learn to be sinners and are born “innocent” when it comes to the issue of having a sinful nature.
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Of course, your admited bad parenting skills didn't enable you to see that children do so because they're not mini-adults, that they develop certain emotional skills as they are less and less dependant on the other.
OK, so let me see if I understand your full position and its implications, but first a question to clarify: do children become sinful at the moment of their birth, or are they sinful at the moment of conception?
Because if they're not sinful until they're born, then they're innocent at conception and while in the womb, and aborting them would actually be saving them from sin, since they would never be born into sinfulness and the risk of never being saved.
If, however, children are sinful from the moment of conception, then you would be right in opposing abortion, because only by being born and proselytized to could the children have the chance of being saved.
However, if children are born sinful but die before they're old enough to be proselytized to and saved, then they go straight to hell. Those at most risk, of course, are non-Christian children who have never been proselytized to, of which there are many in Saudi Arabia, for example.
Given how many children die all the time, especially non-Christian children who may never have been proselytized to, then God must really, really want to send children to hell.
What an evil fucker.
If, however, children are sinful from the moment of conception, then you would be right in opposing abortion, because only by being born and proselytized to could the children have the chance of being saved.
No no, not proselytized to, baptized . If you're baptized as a newborn infant, your soul is safe, even though you don't yet have anywhere near the menatal capacity and experiences to believe in Christianity.
This is why, if you abort your fetus, it is vitally important that you get it baptized in the womb first!
Holy hells, this woman is unbelievable.
Hey, lady, YOU're the selfish one.
"How terrible, my baby is dependent on me for survival! Oh poor me, my children want me to stop treating them like life-destroying mistakes that I constantly resent! Why don't infants and children become self-sufficient from birth so I can do what I want without having to care for anyone else? Waaah!"
If you honestly feel that way about children, you should have aborted or given them up for adoption. Your pathetic "must be the center of attention" attitude is a horrible mindset for any parent, and I sincerely feel sorry for your poor children.
Since sin doesn't exist, your entire post is meaningless noise.
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I can't believe the amount of wrong she managed to cram into so few lines. I can't stand children, babies make physically sick, yet here I feel compelled to break out the cluebat and track End Times down...
I've long since known that I'm not cut out to be a parent (and I don't intend to reproduce), I can understand people needing a first experience to discover that parenthood isn't their true calling, but how can somebody be so dense that she'd manage to keep missing the message after THREE kids!!!? Score one more for the old Xian "be spawnful and multiply" brainwashing, I guess...
A newborn baby doesn't have the brain capacity to be selfish or selfwilled. It's a bundle of instincts at that age.
My bet you're the type of parent who will hit a newborn for daring to wake you up in the middle of the night when you wanted to sleep.
I really feel bad for your kids if you think of them in such a horrible way. You are the one who is being selfish. A day old child hasn't even the simplest concept of self, so they cannot be selfish. Also, older kids might be selfish, but it is naturally for kids to be selfish and grow up to be selfless(which is what happened to me). You, however, are still acting like a selfish child.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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