I still think the concept that people are somehow capable of being good without divine intervention is absurd. The day it rains from the ground up is probably the day I’ll be convinced mankind is, inherently, worth more than spit.
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True, for instance, I have to kill in order to achieve sexual release... Its kind of annoying and extremely difficult to pick up the ladies with this...
Also, I don't tip waiters.
The utter depravity of man is absolutely true--just look around you. Of course, that doesn't mean that Christianity is true, rather the Christian relaization of this point is a selling point for their other unrelated and false ideas.
The people who have already and will post their belief that they are themselves good--well, there's the sin of vanity right there, and lying, most of all to themselves.
And yet, apparently against all rational odds, I am good for the sake of being good, and there is absolutely ZERO "divine intervention" involved.
*shrug*
In others, we see a reflection of ourselves.
That sounds pretty deep. Someone must've said before me, I bet.
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Fuckin' funny!!!
Are you unintentionally blaming God for that?. Because, you know, it's something that happens without anybody's intervention, divine or otherwise.
This isn't nihilism. Nihilists believe people are amazing, or at least have amazing potential and should always strive to live up to that potential. This is a Hobbesian worldview. Ah, Thomas Hobbes, what an idiot.
Hmm, either you're a hypocrite by excluding yourself from the rest of mankind, or you're a prime example of self-loathing.
Either way, your mind is foobar.
I hate these stupid atheists with no value in their lives an...
wait a minute? you're a depressed christian and i'm an atheist whose beloved man united have just won the premiership?
oh. that changes things now doesn't it...
Have you ever considered that if Christians raised their children believing that man was worthwile and to treat all people as equals, there'd be a lot less shit in this world?
But that would be ungodly wouldn't it.
I will say it out loud. The worst, most miserable, hateful, spiteful people I have ever known were also among the most religious. While I have also known some pretty decent religious folk, most of the most giving, reasonable and kind people I've known were definitely toward the liberal-christian/freethinker end of that spectrum.
And here I was thinking it must have been a string of coincidences...
If what you said were true, there wouldn´t be free will. And not free will means no sin and, therefore, the the whole theological concept in which most monotheistic religions are based.
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