[Responding to a list of people who God has killed.]
This list would be simply ridiculous, if it wasn't so miserable that people turn away themselves from God because of such speculations.
First a lot of the numbers are mere speculation. Moreover why write down into God's list the numbers of people who fell in wars. If God gave some nation into hands of another, that means He determined the victory, but all the slaughtering was done by people themselves. In that way you could say that God 'killed' almost every victim of every war in the history.
But what is most important is that GOD DOES NOT 'KILL' ANYBODY, life is given by God, it's completely His property and He can take it back at any time and so shall He take mine and yours and everybody's if He wills to.
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life is given by God, it's completely His property and He can take it back at any time and so shall He take mine and yours and everybody's if He wills to.
Care to give me your stance on abortion?
Let alone infanticide?
Thought not.
So God is like the oft-broken-out-of-jail criminal from The Simpsons who, in the Creationism episode when the cops arrest Lisa for teaching evolution, is seen to be standing on the roof of the Kwik-E-Mart pointing his gun at the fleeing people and saying, "You live! Ha-ha! You die!" *gunfire" "Ha-ha! You live! Ha-ha! You die!" Is that it?
Yeah, god doesn't kill anyone because that would be evil and since the god I worship can't be evil, he didn't kill anyone. He just took the lives away of all the people in the bible. That's a lot different from killing.
By the way, parents give their child life, but that doesn't mean that they decide anything and everything for them no matter what.
See, when you give someone something, it's not your property any more because you GAVE IT AWAY. It's no longer yours. You can't control what happens to it afterwards, and taking it back without permission would constitute thievery.
I mean, when's the last time you gave someone a birthday present, got to dictate to them exactly what to do with it, and then demanded it back just because you were the one who gave it?
And is God responsible too for your lack of commae and punctuation?. And the list is not ridiculous, it's made from a collection of books, the OT, where its followers claim he did that. Even if it's not true, or it's just a symbolic number, don't you think that so much devotion to violence and to glorify it would make us mistrust them?
"life is given by God, it's completely His property and He can take it back at any time"
If I have children, I have given them their life. Does that make my kids' lives my property and give me the right to "take it back" arbitrarily when they annoy me or don't do as I say?
But what is most important is that GOD DOES NOT 'KILL' ANYBODY, life is given by God, it's completely His property and He can take it back at any time and so shall He take mine and yours and everybody's if He wills to.
Absolutely incorrect. Something given is no longer owned. Even if your God gave me life, which I don't believe, it's mine now, and he has no right to take it back.
"But what is most important is that GOD DOES NOT 'KILL' ANYBODY, life is given by God, it's completely His property and He can take it back at any time and so shall He take mine and yours and everybody's if He wills to."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13_Assassins
'The film is set in 1840s Japan during the final decades of the Tokugawa shogunate. The sadistic younger stepbrother of the current Shogun, Lord Matsudaira Naritsugu of Akashi, rapes and kills at will. Sir Doi Toshitsura (Mikijiro Hira), the Shogun's Justice, realizes the situation will become more dangerous after Naritsugu ascends to a higher political position. '
'Sir Doi seeks out a trusted older samurai, Shinzaemon, who served under the former shogun. Sir Doi secretly hires him to assassinate Naritsugu.'
'Slowly the assassins are killed but not before they inflict heavy casualties on the Akashi forces. Eventually Naritsugu and Hanbei are cornered by Shizaemon and Shinrokuro. After Shizaemon kills Hanbei, Naritsugu kicks his loyal retainers head away insulting the older samurai. Contemptuously Naritsugu announces that both the people and samurai have only one purpose and that is to serve their lords. But Shizaemon counters by telling Naritsugu that lords can't live without the support of the people, and that if a lord abuses his powers the people will always rise against them. '
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'Naritsugu and Shinzaemon both mortally wound each other. As the lord crawls away in mud crying and experiencing fear and pain for the first time , he thanks Shinzaemon for showing him excitement before Shinzaemon chops his head off. '
That is all.
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