Do you have any idea how glorious it is when a victim is able to forgive a rapist? It's not that God creates evil because He gets glory out of punishment. He allows the wickedness of man to continue that He might gain glory from the miracle of forgiveness.
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Your Jesus is a dick head then. Who would want to worship such a foul fiend that sits on his so-called "all powerful benevolent" hands and watch someone being raped just so he can get glory from the occasional good human who steps in to stop it from happening. Your Jesus doesn't even tell the police where the perp is hiding and what he/she looks like...what an ass hole. What a whole ass!
Good thing he is merely imaginary, because this would be a malevolently designed world if such were true, but look at those who worship this immoral concept as "worrthy of praise as the source of all morals" ... disgusting! I couldn't care less if your Jesus existed or not... I would STILL not worship that fiend.
'nuff said
P.S. - Can I get an "Amen Reverend Jeremiah!!!"
Die in a fire. Die, die, die, die, die, with festering boils and shattered bones, die, die die, die, die!
Do you have any idea how glorious it is when a victim shoots the balls off her rapist?
"He allows the wickedness of man to continue that He might gain glory from the miracle of forgiveness."
If your God were real, he'd be the biggest a**hole ever. That you think he is real and good shows that you are a huge a**hole, and an idiot, too.
Wait What? Did you just defend rape?
This whole quote is confusing, then again I'm kinda out of it right now.
Rich, coming from a man, whosimply as a side effect of being born with a penishas a much less likely chance of being raped than a woman. DIAF, you sorry piece of shit.
Fuck rapists. Rapists don't deserve forgiveness. They deserve to be locked up to keep them away from society as a whole.
Point being forgiving someone for something that horrible is retarded. That is the inerrant flaw of your dumb fucking religion...you can do whatever the fuck you want and god is cool with you as long as you believe in jesus.
Thank god she was raped.
Thank god he didn't die.
Thank god the whole house didn't burn down.
What a guy, that god dude!
@ Berny
Perfect sentiment.
Wow, David, I bet all the rape victims of the world really appreciate the fact that you think they should forgive whoever raped them. I wonder if he'd really say that to a rape victim's face and expect that to go over well.
God lets evil exist so he can save the day and be hip and popular.
What a great guy, especially makes sense when you consider the 'fact' that he has absolute control over every aspect of everything, and would be able to simply make everyone adore the shit out of him without doing fuck all and never creating evil to begin with.
Sense.
Yes, I should totally forgive my babysitter's boyfriend who molested me as the babysitter stood by when I was 4 and shattered my natural socialization process. It would be 100% glorious. After all, who could resist a supple little 4 year old boy? Totally not his fault, I was soooooo asking for it. I could've totally avoided it too with my advanced 4 year old intellect and bearish body.
"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
David, lets have you violated, brutally assaulted, have your body used, torn, and abused, and see how quick you are able to forgive. Or have your 10 yr old daughter raped, and see how quick you are to forgive, or force her to mouth "I forgive you for ripping my insides apart."
I am old testament when it comes to sexual assault. Punishment should equal the crime.
> He allows the wickedness of man to continue that He might gain glory from the miracle of forgiveness.
Yet, if there was a policeman who let people get raped on his watch so that he might gain glory from the miracle of bringing these criminals to justice, people wouldn't find that a particularly good thing, now would they?
Fuck you, you fucking sick bastard and your fucking sick fuck of a god.
Is there any more that needs to be said?
There is something sick about this.
"It's not that God creates evil because He gets glory out of punishment."
This is remarkably close to 'He get his jollies out of torture', no? I suppose it might explain the Inquisition.
There's a difference between letting go, and forgiving. I've let go of the things people have done to me in the past, because I shouldn't dwell on them anymore. But that doesn't mean I think they had a good reason to do it.
When it comes to racists, I say forgive and forget.
First, forgive them.
Then, lock them up in an underground dungeon, throw away the key, and forget them.
I prayed for God to give me a bicycle for Christmas; then I realised God doesn't work that way. So I stole a bike and prayed for God to forgive me.
To any who read this, I know that holding this dick's worldview up to ridicule is a grossly inadequate reaction to the insensitive idiot's offensiveness.
This is just... well, words fail me.
If your God needs evil to create glory, then he's not a being I wish to worship.
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God is a douche, he's a big fat douche
On Monday he's a douche, on Tuesday he's a douche
Have you ever met my friend Dave's god,
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So, assuming God exists, he'd find his own glory in forgiving science for ripping him apart and destroying his worth?
Of course he wouldn't. It would be different if it happened to him, just as it would be if it happened to you, wouldn't it Dave?
Well yes. I can accept that to Christian fundamentalists, rape is a Godly device and, for all I know, it's a perfectly biblical pastime. And no, I don't have any idea of the circumstances whereby glory may eventually arise from the act of raping someone.
There again, I don't really understand the complex biblical fantasy world of performing Godly acts such as rape, murder, the act of persecuting others, misogyny, genocide, stoning, lying, bigotry, temper tantrums etc. I suppose if I did, I'd be only too ready to spread the word.
But I'm happy enough in the real world where I can concentrate on being evil by indulging in physical pleasure from time to time and by partaking of intellectual pleasures such as learning things and reading books.
I fail to see God's glory when a woman is beaten into submission and left with broken bones, bruises, vaginal tearing, possibly an STD or unwanted pregnancy and a lifetime of psychological trauma...but that's just me.
The Christian god: a narcissistic glory-hog. I find it odd that a so-called supremely wise being would feel a strange, insecure need to create underlings for the express purpose of worshiping it and boosting its ego.
Despite our "depraved" nature, we still don't tolerate this kind of selfish behavior in humans, so why should god - who in its infinite wisdom surely understands (and created) the virtues of humility and self-sufficiency - get a free pass?
Imagine a parent who broke his child's arm, then went around bragging about how the child forgave him, claiming that because of this lesson in "forgiveness" the ends justified the means. What kind of example does god set?
Why do I get the feeling that said forgiveness will happen, just after the victim has shot the rapist in the groin, with a hollow point round, in a similar manner to a certain Robocop film sequence, with the result, said rapist is now on the ground, writhing in agony...?
"It's not that God creates evil because He gets glory out of punishment."
Heretic!
Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."
Ezekiel 14:9, "And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel."
So according to the bible, God creates evil and deceives people with the express purpose of destroying them. What a douche.
Funny thing that, since God is the one burning people in hell for eternity over trivial crimes. Based on that, I'd say that God is actually ~worse~ at forgiveness than someone that only wants to kill a criminal.
It would be more glorious if he struck the rapist dead of a brain embollism before commiting the rape.
David this is one of the more fucked up things that I have ever read, and I read a lot of shit from fucked up people like yourselves.
Back in the Good Old Bad Old Days of Usenet, people who registered were asked to give their latitude and longitude for map-generation, and this became known as their 'ICBM address'.
Does this nong have an address like that? Because I'm sure someone here would know someone kind enough to drop an ICBM on this tool.
Confused?
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