We don't torture at Gitmo.
Really now? So I guess all the people at Gitmo who confirmed that torture was going on are mistaken, and you, who have likely never even seen Guantanamo, are the only person with all the facts and truth of the matter. I highly doubt that.
Also, waterboarding was not the only form of torture used at Gitmo. There were many other torture techniques used there including, but by no means limited to, stress positions, sleep depravation, repeated beatings, exposure to freezing tempertures, Chaining to ceiling in such a manner as to mimic the stresses on the body that are inflicted by crucifixition.
Water boarding works or it would not be done.
Bullshit. Any person being tortured will confess to anything you want them to. Why else do you think all those people confessed to the Spanish Inquisition, the pioneers of waterboarding? I highly doubt that they were all witches and/or heretics.
In fact, only three prisoners have endured water boarding.
Then that's three too many.
Water Boarding is NOT torture.
Then were US soldiers been court martialed for torture when they used waterboarding in the Phillipenes? It was torture then so how is it not torture now? The US Prosocuted japanese soldiers in war crimes tribunals for using waterboarding on US soldiers in WW II, Why was it torture then and not now?
Man Cow subjected himself to 7 seconds worth, and he declared it torture. It was not. Man Cow was immediately able to continue talking. What he experienced was extreme discomfort, but he did not suffer lasting pain, nor did he require medical aid afterwards.
Have you undergone waterboarding? If not then how can you say for certain that it is just "extreme discomfort"? Not all forms of torture cause "lasting pain" or even pain at all. If waterboarding isn't torture then ehy is it considered torture by the whole of the civilized world, including the US until 2002?
Discomfort like this is called aggressive interrogation. Its not pleasant, but neither is it torture
Would it be torture if used on american soldiers? How about american civilians? How about nice white american protestants? How about close friends andfamily members? How about your kids? If you have to draw a line at any of those then you admit your hypocrisy. If something is only ok if done to a percived enemy then it's not ok, and no amount of rationalization on your part will make it so.
The 3 terrorists endured 14 seconds. And they talked afterwards which is why we used this. 14 seconds of discomfort is NOT torture.
For starters they were not waterboarded just once, and in the case of one detainee (Abu Zubydah I believe but I'm not certain) was waterboarded over 100 times.
Yes, they did talk and alot of that talk was things they thought their interrogators wanted to hear, Like all the bullshit about Saddam training al-Qaeda which was proved to be little more than a fantasy. There have been several interrogators who have since gone on record saying that the US did not gain any useful or actionable information from torture.
Torture has been redefined by the left.
No, torture was redefined by the Bush Administration, in particular John Yoo, Jay Bybee, and Alberto Gonzales of the White House Office of Legal Counsel. There are memo's that attest to this fact. If they were not redefining torture then why is it that these "Enhanced Interrogation Techniques" were consider to be torture and therefore illegal under US law beforehand?
