Every Hitler, suicide bomber, evil pope, despot king who call for 'holy war' do so for one reason: Politics. i.e they want more land - or to rule over people, or to change a policy. Religion is secondary to all their motives. And you atheists are the ones to talk about evil - you will find that nearly all crime perpetrated today is from either from confirmed/unconfirmed atheists or agnostics.
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Every Hitler, suicide bomber, evil pope, despot king who call for 'holy war' do so for one reason: Politics. i.e they want more land - or to rule over people, or to change a policy. Religion is secondary to all their motives. I used to believe this, too, but come on, how much did the 9/11 suicide bombers talk about 'changing policies' or 'driving out illegal occupiers'? They spent their time hanging around the mosque chatting about the virgins they'd get in Paradise, and about how un-islamic the heathen US was.And you atheists are the ones to talk about evil - you will find that nearly all crime perpetrated today is from either from confirmed/unconfirmed atheists or agnostics. Wrong. I can put it no more simple. Crime is committed by religious people, and of the few atheists in the US, very few commit crimes.
No really check the statistics. Athiests count for 10% of the US population, however in the US prison they count only for .2%.
Did you say that it was because of politics, yes, no?, since when are politics or atheism together?. Non-contradiction award?
Wrong. While most of the atrocities committed in the name of religion were instigated for power, the people who did the fighting did it in the name of religion.
"Every Hitler, suicide bomber, evil pope, despot king who call for 'holy war' do so for one reason: Politics. i.e they want more land - or to rule over people, or to change a policy. Religion is secondary to all their motives."
"US prison population 2,000,000. Christian 80%. Atheist 0.2%"
hitler was a christian, suicide bombers are usually muslim, popes are christian, and most despot rulers who call for "holy war" are either christian or muslim (i.e. bush and bin laden).
"you will find that nearly all crime perpetrated today is from either from confirmed/unconfirmed atheists or agnostics. "
"Religion is secondary to all their motives. "
@Praetyre
...Albeit a mildly stupid one with some....
Emphasis mine.
MILDLY!?
I think you misunderestimated* our president, there.
*Actual "word" used by Bush Jr.
As to myspaceinvader: Don't try and peg YOUR fuckups on us. Religion doesn't make rainbows and sunshine spew forth from everyone's asses. And no, when you assholes kill a gynecologist, it's NOT heroics, it's MURDER. Just like all the other murders committed in the name of "what's right" or religion and skygods.
er, just in case I came off sounding like an asshole, the bit about Dubya is partially tongue-in-cheek, and should be taken with a (very small) grain of salt. No offense meant, Praetyre, I just hate politics and politicians.
The bit about myspaceinvader's comment stands, of course. I can't stand when people act like athiests are the spawn of hell and religion is utterly spotless.
The pathetic thing is, those criminals [in politics] sucker the gullible religious sheep for both their votes and their money.
And they are extraordinarily successful....
Every Hitler, suicide bomber, evil pope, despot king who call for 'holy war' do so for one reason: Politics. i.e they want more land - or to rule over people, or to change a policy. Religion is secondary to all their motives.
And you atheists are the ones to talk about evil - you will find that nearly all crime perpetrated today is from either from confirmed/unconfirmed atheists or agnostics.
They are still able to USE religion to control the people, and make them do what they are ordered to do.
You'll find that that is bullshit.
Why call for a 'holy war' then ? Why not say " Hey guys, lets fuck over those bastards and steal their land" ?
Could it be because cloaking their aggression in vestments will get idiots like myspaceinvader to stand on either end of the bayonet ?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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