(Re: Obama Re-takes Oath Without Bible)
How do we know he said "so help me God?" For all I know (without proof) he could have said "so help me Allah" or pick any other god as a possibility. Did you notice the first time he took the oath, Justice Roberts phrased "so help me God" in a question form as almost expecting something different?
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And there we have it. He swore in on a Bible, KNOWING THE LINES BETTER THAN THE PERSON RECITING THEM TO HIM, and to dispel ANY doubts over the flub, he retakes the oath, just to be sure. And it's still not good enough.
Except Allah is God, so it wouldn't have mattered.
Correct me if I am wrong (didn't watch the big show) but was the oath of office administered as 'repeat after me' or 'do you ...?' I know that the oath of office for a military officer has the form of 'repeat after me' (aka 'I (state your name) do solemnly swear/affirm to support and defend the constitution of the united states against all enemies foreign and domestic, and that I will bear true faith and alleigance to the same, that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter, and that I take this obligation freely and without any purpose or mental reservation, so help me god.')
Or was the oath of office administered as 'do you BHO solemnly swear...so help me god?'
If the second, I would expect that the oath ended in an interrogative. If not, I would expect that an upwards inflection/change in vocal tone could be interpreted as an interrogative. What difference does it make?
Who wants to bet somewhere, someone is seriously speculating whether Obama was burned when he made physical contact with the Bible? Takers? -- Allegory for Jesus
I'm not a betting man, but I'm thoroughly expecting someone out there in the Fundie blogosphere to claim that that really happened!
a) We all heard him say it first time round. Is that not good enough for you (someone who "believes" in a "god" for which there is ZERO evidence)?
b) Justice Roberts shouldn't have said it in the first place, because it's not part of the oath. It's up to the President to decide whether or not he wants to add it. Actually it was YET ANOTHER cock up by the judge. See here! (scroll down to Mistake #4)
c) I have to imagine that all these people aren't hit by the recession, or have a friend or relative serving abroad, or have no problem with health insurance, so they can all concentrate in insignificant shit like that.
"So help me God" isn't in the oath. He already said "so help me God" with his hand on the Bible. God doesn't care whether the adverb is placed before or after the verb it modifies. The Constitution does. So they did a retake so people like the Rapture Ready nut jobs and Fox News wouldn't be raising stupid objections to his presidency.
"Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: But I [Jesus] say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil." (Matthew 5:33-37)
If you people bothered to read the Constitution that you, as a citizen, swear to uphold and defend, you would know President Obama is not required to include any deity in his Oath of Office. Neither is a holy book or any book necessary.
Because the "so help me God" part is OPTIONAL. It is not a part of the actual oath, it's more of a tradition.
I can't imagine the kind of uproar you guys would be in if, when asked that, he said no.
Actually Judge Robert’s asking like that annoyed me a bit. If “so help me god” isn’t in the oath and is optional then the judge shouldn’t have said it at all, never mind asking him “so help you God?”
Whatever, it just irritated me.
The second oath was administered by your conservative crony Roberts, and, it too, was fucking recorded. Or, did you miss that part?
Duck: The first part was 'repeat after me', the very last bit, the optional bit, was asked as a direct question.
I watched the inauguration on live television and Obama DID say, "So help me God."
And even if he didn't, it does not make an iota of difference! According to the Constitution, he became president once the clock struck twelve REGARDLESS of whether or not he took the entire oath at all, let alone took the time to say, "So, help me God."
"c) I have to imagine that all these people aren't hit by the recession, or have a friend or relative serving abroad, or have no problem with health insurance, so they can all concentrate in insignificant shit like that."
@xplicit_UK: I wouldn't be surprised.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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