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David van Heerden #homophobia disqus.com

"There is nothing in Michael C's post that suggests hate. Unlike yourself, he has not proposed killing homosexuals."

There is indeed nothing. It doesn't agree with his other posts, which is why I say he's lying. And yes, homosexuals should be executed, but my grandchildren are not yet in government.

MidNightRider2001 #homophobia #sexist disqus.com

The rapid homosexualization of the US population over the past 3 decades shows how sex ratios become imbalanced and unequal. It's now not possible for a large percentage of males under age 30 to even date a woman due to higher rates of non-heterosexuality in females. You can read the study and see for yourself.
Now, it's possible the homosexually displaced heterosexual males will turn to drugs, booze, video games, or other activities and nothing will happen.
Or it's possible some of these males will realize that they're victims of a world that's thrown them overboard and violence will ensue. It may create a small civil war or regular acts of terrorism. Only time will tell.
When a large enough portion of males realize women may legally wed women, yet they as men are mathematically eliminated from doing so, I predict violence. In fact, we may have already seen some in the past college shootings.

Lady Checkmate #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "UPDATE: HIV Positive, Homosexual former teacher's aide gets 105 years on child porn charges"

(NOTE: The cut-and-pasted Fox News article Lady Checkmate took this from indicates nowhere that the subject was homosexual, nor can this information be found elsewhere. Fox News link here: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/27/former-teachers-aide-gets-105-years-on-child-porn-charges.html

Lady Checkmate:
Prayers.

Lady Checkmate #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

Sexually abused as a child, a satan worshiper finds Jesus, through the prayers of a stranger!!

https://youtu.be/20xpyQvrTug

A desperate man who had been beaten and sexually abused by his closeted homosexual father and raped by a homosexual male friend of his family as a child, struggled with depression and suicidal thoughts. He tried to escape the pain through drug addiction and pimping. Feeling lost and abandoned, he began rebelling, big time, against God, by getting deeply involved in satan worship, as a means to get back at God, but he finds Jesus, and becomes Born Again! Keep praying. There is deliverance in Jesus Christ!!

Lady Checkmate #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

(Commenting on story "No to Starbucks: Lady Gaga and Starbucks invest in promoting homosexuality amongst youth", story here: http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/2017/06/13/lady-gaga-and-starbucks-collaborate-on-2-new-drinks-for-charity.html)

Make no mistake: Gaga and Starbucks are taking 25 cent from each dollar you spend at Starbucks and putting it toward indoctrinating children and spreading a fake doctrine that homosexuality is normal...it's not. It's an abomination and God is not pleased with it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_This_Way_Foundation

*Disclaimer: I don't support suicide nor bullying, but I also don't support lying to anyone and causing them to sin and rebel against God.

Mick Williams #fundie disqus.com

Headline: "Today's Laugh 1-23-18"

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Lady Checkmate:
Lol??. Good one, Mick.
I think I have a couple of liberal tendencies, but they're in line with the word, helping the poor, etc. Thank God, whew??.
Thank you for breaking up the monotony of the day??. Your OPs make my day. I usually try to save them as a way to treat myself, but this one pulled me in right away. I couldn't wait.

Mick Williams:
Ordinary folks can be as funny as those wacky celebrities. Thanks, all--it's fun being a comedian.

Vaquero #fundie #wingnut disqus.com

I want free money,
I want free house
I want free car
I want free gas
I want free food
I want free clothing

I want free drink
I want free marijuana
I want a free vacation in Europe
I want free sex with a lot of girls
And I want you to pay for the all of this. On the base being I am a living human being.

Duddly Doright #wingnut #homophobia disqus.com

[On Liberals buying guns]

This is a real danger to the 2nd amendment as the Libards can use the increasing number on murders as justification to outlaw all firearms.

The problem is that Gays (Male Sodomites) are by definition mentally ill and thus should not be able to purchase firearms.

They are also very prone to fits of jealous violence. The old, politically incorrect term was HOMOcide.

HOMOCIDE:
Slang term used to describe one of several methods gay men sometimes employ when murdering a homosexual lover. Examples: genitals cut off and stuffed in victim's mouth, objects crammed into body orifices , etc.

http://www.policemag.com/cop-slang/homocide.aspx

Not to mention that drug use among homosexuals is extremely wide spread.

Gay men and lesbians are three times more likely to use illegal drugs than straight people, a British Home Office-funded study says.

http://www.eurad.net/en/news/consumption_data/New+study%3A+Drugs+and+the+Gay+community.9UFRnMXr.ips

Among gay men, the “Party and Play” scene has been growing in popularity over the past decade. These sessions, which are generally organized on Craigslist or other websites feature intense drug taking and sex with multiple partners. Crystal meth and ecstasy are the drugs of choice for these “instant parties” because of their psychotropic effects, and in the case of crystal meth, their ability to help people stay awake well into the night and prevent ejaculation during sex.

http://www.michaelshouse.com/featured-articles/drug-abuse-gay-nightlife/

A bunch of armed mentally ill people, the males especially, who routinely get high on meth.

What could go wrong!

Doug Bristow #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

Ambulance Chaser:
They're "proud" because everyone used to tell them to be ashamed of who they are. I take it since they're born that way, you don't believe they should be ashamed of being gay?

Doug Bristow:
They are not born that way.

DrewTwoFish:
Really, Doug? Do tell us how it happened. Did we trip into the gay pool and stay in a little too long - you know, sort of like a gay marinade?

Doug Bristow:
God said same sex sex aka homosexuality is a sin. God does not create sin nor does He tempt anyone to sin therefore no one is born that way.

DrewTwoFish:
You haven't answered my question.

Doug Bristow:
Your sexual orientation is the same for all of us and that is heterosexual. A desire to be homosexual is the demonic bait to engage in that particular sin. It is not the temptation from Satan that is the sin, it is giving into it that is the sin.

WorldGoneCrazy #fundie disqus.com

The Atheist Creed:

I, the atheist, believe:

1. That the universe miraculously popped into existence out of nothing uncaused by anything.
2. That life magically sprang forth from non-life when lightning hit some mud.
3. That minds and morals evolved from molecules through monkeys.
4. That there is no God, and I hate Him.

It's kind of the Nicene Creed of atheism, if you will. :-)

Lady Checkmate #fundie #homophobia #transphobia disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Jesus Christ did Address Homosexuality and Transgenderism in the Holy Bible - Pastor Voddie Baucham"

Jesus Christ did Address Homosexuality and Transgenderism in the Holy Bible.

Pastor Voddie Baucham explains why the claim that Jesus Christ never addressed homosexuality is FALSE. He exposes the lies and myth of the "gay Christian".

https://youtu.be/loSWMYTd9B8

We share the gospel because it (He) is the Truth that sets free from sin. We love you and we want God's will for your life to be accomplished. Please seek Jesus Christ if you are struggling with sexual sin or any sin. There are brothers and sisters in Christ here who will pray with and for you. We seek God's will, not our own.

Don't forget to RECOMMEND. Lets get the Truth out so that Light may shine bright in this dark place and Jesus Christ may be glorified and the captives may be set free in Jesus name. Even if the discussion is closed, please still RECOMMEND.

Roger Marks #homophobia disqus.com

Homosexuals are against hate unless you tell them the truth and the hate comes out. They are against discrimination until you discriminate against what they do then the discrimination comes out. They are against judgment until you judge them and then their judgmental gene gets into gear. They are all for love until you are not gushing all over them and then you see the lack of love surface.

A friend of mine who has investigated the world of homosexuality and written two books on the subject said that homosexuals are the most hateful, unloving and judgmental people he has ever met.

Roger Marks #homophobia disqus.com

"Two gay men entering a monogamous relationship..."

Sorry mate, a monogamous relationship and homosexuality is an oxymoron. Those sort of relationships constitute about .00000000001% of homosexual relationships. The rest are a constant search for sex outside of the relationship as has been well documented in books, and on TV and by homosexuals themselves.

Lady Checkmate #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

Lady Checkmate’s headline: “Alt-left Hypocrites: 13 Gay Bakeries Refuse to Make Traditional Marriage Cake With the Message: ‘Gay Marriage Is Wrong’”

(The story below is from this link: http://orthochristian.com/76006.html)

Despite anti-discrimination laws in many states that require Christian bakery owners to bake cakes for same-sex weddings, 13 LGBT and gay-owned bakeries objected to one man’s request when he asked if they’d make a pro-traditional marriage cake that would read “gay marriage is wrong.” All refused to back the cake and one person even cursed at the Christian man for “hate speech” and said a cake supporting traditional marriage “went against their beliefs.”

Blogger Theodore Shoebat, of Shoebat.com, wanted to see if the same level of tolerance that Christian business owners who belive in traditional marriage are required to abide by is also being exemplified at bakeries that advocate for same-sex marriage.

Shoebat set off on a video experiment where he called 13 bakeries, which are all either known as gay-owned bakeries or bakeries that strongly support gay marriage, and told them that he was hosting a pro-traditional marriage celebration and that he needed a cake that says “gay marriage is wrong.”


He found that all of the bakeries refused to make him the cake with those words written on top. A few of the bakeries that he called said they’d make him the cake, but he would have to apply the words in icing himself. Other bakers were offended when they heard his request, while some simply said “no” or just hung up the phone.

“I hope you have luck with that, but we won’t be able to do that for you,” one baker told Shoebat. “I don’t believe in being bigoted like that.”

Shoebat even called a gay cookie shop called Hot Cookie in San Francisco and asked if they would make him a pizza-sized cookie with “gay marriage is wrong” written on it. The representative of Hot Cookie, who claimed to be a married lesbian, was the most outspoken of any of Shoebat’s respondents. After she told Shoebat that the bakery would not make the cookie, Shoebat told her that the bakery must not stand for equality if they’re refusing to make a cookie for a Christian who believes homosexuality is wrong.

“Why would we make something that is against what we are working toward?” the Hot Cookie representative asked. “I feel like that is hateful and we are not about that.”

Shoebat responded by telling her that although Christian bakers believe that gay marriage is morally wrong, they are still forced to make cakes for the same-sex weddings.

“All of the homosexual activists in California are working to force Christian businesses in California to acquiesce to homosexual opinion and things that they don’t agree with,” Shoebat asserted. “Technically, you are discriminating against people like me, when you refuse to make a cake that says ‘gay marriage is wrong.’ — By refusing to make a cake, it’s discrimination against those beliefs.”

After Shoebat told the woman that it was a form of discrimination not to make his requested cookie, the lady replied sarcastically, saying that the bakery would make the cookie, but her statement lost all sincerity when she said she’d also put a huge phallus design on it.

Two bakeries justified their rejection of Shoebat’s request by saying that a cake of that nature would be similar to making erotic cakes, which those bakeries say they do not make.

Most of the other bakeries that Shoebat called replied in a politically correct manner by saying that they could not make the cake that Shoebat was requesting. Although every time Shoebat was denied and tried to start a debate about why the bakery was not standing for equality, most of the representatives just hung up on his pointed ethical questioning.

The majority of short responses that Shoebat recevied from bakery workers noted that his request went against their “belief” in gay marriage.

Some Christian business owners have felt the costly impact of violating their state’s anti-discrimination laws after they denied service based on their biblical “belief” in the traditional definition of marriage, which states that marriage is only between one man and one woman.

A Christian bakery in Oregon was fined $150,000 in October after being found guilty of discrimination after refusing to bake a cake for a same-sex wedding.

In August, a New York Christian couple was fined $13,000 by the state for refusing to let a same-sex couple use their farmhouse wedding venue for their ceremony, basing their rejection on their religious belief.

And a photography company in California announced that it will no longer photograph wedding ceremonies after receiving swift backlash from LGBT activists after it was posted on Facebook how they refused to shoot a same-sex wedding based on their beliefs.

“I am a man who believes gay marriage is wrong. Is there no equality for me?” Shoebat asks.

Terry_Bean #homophobia disqus.com

Like the 8 studies done in 3 different nations proving homosexuality is not genetic, thus not born that way.

In the identical twin studies, Dr. Whitehead has been struck by how fluid and changeable sexual identity can be.

“Neutral academic surveys show there is substantial change. About half of the homosexual/bisexual population (in a non-therapeutic environment) moves towards heterosexuality over a lifetime. About 3% of the present heterosexual population once firmly believed themselves to be homosexual or bisexual.”
“Sexual orientation is not set in concrete,” he notes.

Even more remarkable, most of the changes occur without counseling or therapy. “These changes are not therapeutically induced, but happen ‘naturally’ in life, some very quickly,” Dr. Whitehead observes. “Most changes in sexual orientation are towards exclusive heterosexuality.” Numbers of people who have changed towards exclusive heterosexuality are greater than current numbers of bisexuals and homosexuals combined. In other words, ex-gays outnumber actual gays.

Amos Moses #fundie disqus.com

everyone is bound by Gods law and His judgement whether they believe it or not .... FYI .... the speed limit is a result of GODS LAW of motion and is by that LAW upon even those who suppress the truth in unrighteousness and deny God and His law .... and the consequences are jail in this world .... and death if you go to fast and have to turn too sharp to avoid a wall or cliff or another car .... WHICH if you are in a car ..... REQUIRES you to have FAITH that the other drivers will follow the LAW of both God and men ............ so they are not even exempt from having a faith ..... "Not everyone is bound by your faith." ... they SURELY ARE as i have just explained ...........

Lady Checkmate #fundie #transphobia disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "END TIMES: Homosexual man who identifies as a woman tries to force a kiss on a straight man and becomes angry that straight man won't kiss him"

(Original story here: https://www.iheart.com/content/2018-01-08-ginuwine-rejects-kiss-from-trans-woman-sparks-massive-debate-online/)

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Jonathan Willoughby, a homosexual man who wants to be a woman and now calls himself India Willoughby, basically assaulted a heterosexual man and insisted the straight man kiss him. When the man refused, Jonathan Willoughby accused the man of being transphobic...essentially stating that being straight and only wanting to date biological women, who were born women with female genitalia is discriminatory toward homosexuals. R&B singer/songwriter Ginuwine was the victim in this scenario and the topic of heated debate on twitter. Ginuwine tried to encourage the other man and in doing so, became the victim of an attempted sexual assault.

Twitter (whom we have NO respect for) is divided about what transpired on the show. Comments have been edited to portray truth ;):

Can anyone give me an example of any person arguing that in this situation Ginuwine should have accepted the kiss of a person he doesn't want to kiss? The responses to this suggest that men who identify as trans women somehow advocate for forcing people to accept things like this. No.this is assault https://t.co/cwDzJtFu5J
— Kat Blaque (@kat_blaque) January 8, 2018

The issue is not that Ginuwine denied that man a kiss or didn't find him attractive. The problem is he specified his trans identity as giving him pause. He made his prejudice and transphobia clear.
— Francisco-Luis White (@FranciscoLWhite) January 8, 2018

Okay i dont mean to be offensive but why do trans and gays get offended, and try to get straight men in trouble if they aren't attracted to them? #CBB #Ginuwine respect his sexuality if you want yours to be respected by others.
— Ling Xiaoyu (@goodbihgonebad) January 8, 2018

In regards to the discussion on CBB between India and Ginuwine, I do believe that Ginuwine saying that he wouldn’t date a man who identifies as a trans woman came off as absolutely transphobic, just like saying you wouldn’t date a black person is racist. HOWEVER...
— joker/smoker (@_sweetbey_) January 8, 2018

By India basically throwing himself on Ginuwine by trying to force a kiss on him, wasn’t cool. And THAT had nothing to do with being trans. If I don’t wanna kiss somebody, I’m not going to. So I don’t think Ginuwine deserves backlash for refusing the kiss, BUT
— joker/smoker (@_sweetbey_) January 8, 2018

India knew what kind of reaction he would get by trying to kiss Ginuwine, and then stormed off. I don’t think that’s okay to look for a reason to get upset. Like, educating someone is different than basically saying “so you wouldn’t kiss me because I’m trans”
— joker/smoker (@_sweetbey_) January 8, 2018

Don't forget to RECOMMEND. Lets get the Truth out so that Light may shine bright in this dark place and Jesus Christ may be glorified. Even if the discussion is closed, please still RECOMMEND.

Doug Bristow:
This world will be destroyed by God just as He did to Sodom and Gomorrah. Just as time ran out for them it is drawing down for us as well.
If anyone reading this has not already done so...please come to God through His son Christ Jesus while you still have the grace of time to do so.

Lady Checkmate:
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Mick Williams #fundie disqus.com

"The Race to the Pit"

Welcome to a peek into the near future of a misguided communist utopia. Ecstatic with the success of their recent infanticide bill, increasingly murderous liberals are eager to accelerate the globalist dream of slashing the world's population by 94%. Witness the HPV vaccine manically pressed on teen girls, resulting in cases of sterilization. An African nation files futile suit against a software titan, whose vaccination program here, as in South America, has caused sterility and autism. The fanatical assault on, and feminization of men guarantees a plunging birth rate. Whereas conservatives see the Deep State as public enemy number one, the left pictures this dire threat as a just-delivered infant. Enter the surgeon with a diagonal cutting tool, and he isn't aiming for the umbilical.
Yet the enemies of freedom aren't content to freefall over the cliff; they're on the way to the pit on Buck Rogers rocket backpacks. Herewith a look at some pending bills in congress. First, the Liberal Offspring Fairness Act (widely derided by conservatives as 'LOFA, or LOAFER): Do conservative parents oppose your enlightened college worldview? Been living the good life long enough? Disinherit them and take what's yours. Changed your mind about having had kids? The Stop And Take Away Norman act allows for their euthanizing at any age.
Recent news items: Chinese paratroops occupy the failed third-world state of California. When delighted liberal leaders greet them with open arms, they're promptly sent in chains to re-education camps. When New York's new World Trade Center lights up in pink to celebrate the S.A.T.A.N. act, an earthquake levels Manhattan.
Judgment, of course, takes many forms. But it undoubtedly lurks just down a country lane in. . . .The Twilight Zone.

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craigwilliams #fundie disqus.com

Craig's headline (on Lady Checkmate's channel): CHIPPED !

Ok now I don't like to start a mass panic, but I was looking through the MSN web page and saw a story on "Who is ready to get Chipped" I really don't like this at all. I believe in God word and when you have any kind of mark on you. You can't even buy or sell your way into heaven. A small Wisconsin's company announced that they would start enplaning microchips into it employees. now this chipped doesn't have a GPS so they say. but its like a smartphone where you can buy products on line. What do you think about this? Who wants to get 'chipped'?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2017/07/29/wa/520034001

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

(commenting on this story, https://heatst.com/world/colombia-marks-first-legal-all-male-three-way-gay-marriage/)

Everett Lunday:
Lust, no matter how you slice it , no matter how it manifest itself or in whom, is always fleeting and does not satisfy.

Rob:
The wackos are coming out of the woodwork- who knows what kind of "marriage" is next. People are going to do whatever they want to, as Christians, we need to keep focused on our relationship with God thru Jesus Christ every day.

Lady Checkmate:
Abomination.
They don't want marriage. They don't even support the marriage covenant. They want to whoremonger, chase after their sinful lust and mock real marriages.
At best all they wanted were the medical and financial benefits of marriage while they simultaneously thumb their noses at the sanctity of marriage between a man and woman (which they despise), the marriage covenant as God ordained it.

Lady Checkmate #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Sodom & Gomorrah was NOT about hospitality, it was about homosexuality"

Many alt-left homosexuals are spreading the lie that God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because the homosexual males were not hospitable to the visiting men/angels. That is a bold face lie and those who spread that lie do so intentionally to deceive and mislead those who do not know God's Truth for themselves. Please seek Jesus Christ, repent of your sins, pray for godly wisdom and understanding, study the Holy Bible and read the biblical account for yourself. Do not trade the truth for a lie.

God's word is like a two-edged sword separating soul from spirit and bone from marrow. It is the ONLY truth. Amen.

(Omitted: Jack Chick tract "The Gay Blade" reproduced in its entirety)

The Voice of Reason #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

The Voice of Reason:
Mostly, same-sex marriages are a danger only to those who would potentially participate in them, as it normalizes same-sex sexual activity and thereby makes it less likely that those with same-sex sexual attractions will practice abstinence.
As far as danger posed by same-sex marriages to heterosexual people, I really don't see any. Sure there's the contribution to the gradual desensitization of the culture to sexual sin, but I think same-sex marriage has a pretty marginal share of the blame for that. The normalization of pornography, men fathering children and leaving the mothers to fend for themselves, and the casual sex culture in general are far, far more to blame for the moral decay in this area than the minor impact that could be contributed to same-sex marriage.

Fandango:
Why do people such as yourself keep expecting homosexuals to be heterosexuals? They can’t.

The Voice of Reason:
I don't, nor did I claim to. Sexual attraction is not a decision, it's something one is born with. How a person acts, or refrains from acting, on that attraction is very much a choice.

Fandango:
Are you telling a homosexual he or she should live a life free of sexual gratification, then?

The Voice of Reason:
Yes.

Fandango:
Why? Why should they be denied the rich experience of falling in love the rest of us enjoy?

The Voice of Reason:
They are being denied nothing, I oppose all attempts by governments to enforce any sexual norms. But when it comes to morality, the only morally permissible form of sexual activity is within the bonds of a heterosexual marriage. All others, be they homosexuals or unmarried heterosexuals, are called to abstinence.

Roger Marks #homophobia disqus.com

Jim Hanes:
Homosexuals don't care about you, Roger. They aren't the slightest bit interested. Why would anyone be?

Roger Marks:
If that is the case, why do they keep on trying to shut us up?

Jim Hanes:
How have they tried to shut you up Roger? Serious answers only please.

Roger Marks:
I wil share with you one good example. A friend of mine wrote a very good book about homosexuality. At the book launch which was by invitation only. The homosexual rent a mob invaded the launch banging drums, blowing whistles and shouting obscenities.

2marktime2 #homophobia disqus.com

Here is a but of truth for you. Homosexuals claim that the reason why they suicide in such large numbers is due to society not accepting them and their way of life.

Lie.

The reason is the constant rejection they get from other homosexuals in thier search for acceptance. They go from place to place day after day to find acceptance through sex and when they don't get it because they are not the right type i.e. handsome, good body, wrong size of penis, not wanting to do what the other homosexual wants them to do the spiral downwards begins. When they hit rock bottom their is only one course of action that can alleviate the pain and that is suicide.

I have researched the subject and presented a paper to the government on the issue so I know what I am talking about.

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "ELLE FASHION MAGAZINE PUBLISHES SHOCK VIDEO OF 8-YEAR OLD DRAG QUEEN NAMED LACTATIA"

The boy said he looks up to drag queens. "I love them because they do what they want to do and they're not afraid to do it," Nemis said. "My friends at school think Lactatia's very courageous. She's really good at dancing, they also think that she's really good at playing video games and stuff like that."

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EDITOR’S NOTE: Did you really think the LGBTQ agenda was about “tolerance and equality” for gay people? Nope, the real target and aim of the LGBTQ movement has always been the children. Hitler was so successful not only be he persuaded the German people. Hitler succeeded because the Hitler Youth he started in the early 1920’s yielded the harvest of an entire generation he followed his teachings in the late 1930’s. You want real control? Control the children. Evil genius works like that.

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“I’ve been wearing my sister’s tutu since I was like threes and fours, even like twos, and I’ve been dancing around in my little pink dresses and stuff, so yeah I think I’ve had Lactatia inside me since I was born, that’s why I love that song ‘Born This Way,'” Nemis said in the video.

The boy took on the idea that children (at age 8!) should not even know what a “drag queen” is. “I know people would like go up to their parents and tell them that they want to be a drag queen, and then their parents would be like, ‘You shouldn’t even know what that is.'”

The boy’s mother described the whole experience as “overwhelming — you feel overwhelmed by pride that your child is expressing themselves, and showing the world, and it’s being so well received, and she’s pretty good at what she does.”

Yes, the mother referred to her son as “she.” This gender confusion ran through Nemis’s own view of himself. While he identified as a “diva” over and over again, he seemed unclear as to whether or not a man can be a “diva.”

Don't forget to RECOMMEND. Lets get the Truth out so that Light may shine bright in this dark place and Jesus Christ may be glorified.Even if the discussion is closed, please still RECOMMEND.

Mick Williams #fundie disqus.com

Inspired by one of the prophecy sites, where a Christian lady spent the day with an unsaved relative. I can sympathize with having to listen to Anderson Cooper et al. Pure torture.

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Lady Checkmate:

I literally laughed out loud when I read the puppet's response...seriously. It's like they all read from the same script. You couldn't have been more on the mark. I love it!!

It looks good to me :)

Thanks Mick!

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Confusion: The enemy wants to convince the world that good is evil and evil is good.

Those same people consider this wholesome, normal and pure:

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There is obvious deception. The enemy likes to present himself as an angel of light, so we're not surprised that those who follow him want to present evil as good. The concern is their attack against the innocent. Pray. Do not be deceived as God is not mocked.

Children should not be allowed in environments that are only about sex where adults simulate sexual activity and walk around nude.

Isaiah 5:20 (NKJV)
20 Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil;
Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness;
Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

Come quick Lord.

aCultureWarrior #homophobia disqus.com

aCultureWarrior:
If homosexuality were recriminalized, this insanity wouldn't be happening. As it stands, the police (most if not all police depts. throughout the nation employ openly homosexual men and women, some even transgender) are enforcing laws protecting immoral behavior. In this case it appears that they're concerned with the possibility of civil unrest and took actions to prevent it.

Miranda Cole:
Being attracted to the same gender is not something you should be able to “criminalize.”

aCultureWarrior:
LOL...this coming from someone who supports the LGBT movement (i.e. the 'gaystapo') that is currently criminalizing people wanting to help those lost souls with same sex attractions to understand them and possibly even overcome them.

Miranda Cole:
There is no gaystapo. You just want people to think there is so you can create an us-vs.-them illusion because of your own personal fear and hate. You are to be pitied.

aCultureWarrior:
And denial isn't a river in Africa.
I often times refer to your tyrannical LGBT movement as "jack booted thugs", but 'gaystapo' is much easy to type.
BTW, "ACT-UP!" founder and defender of pedophilia Larry Kramer admitted they and early homosexual militants used tactics from Hitler's Mein Kampf.

Lydia Church #fundie #homophobia #transphobia disqus.com

Nothing justifies gay 'marriage' since God condemns it. (And Jesus, since He is God.)

Leviticus 18; 22
Leviticus 20; 13
Deuteronomy 22; 5
Romans 1; 26-27
1 Corinthians 6; 9-11
1 Timothy 1; 10

Homosexuality is a sin.
There is no marriage between them.
There is no transgenderism.
God didn't 'make' anyone gay.
There are only two genders.
The fall of man lead to the sin nature.
God made us male or female and we are our birth gender.

Singing any song does not alter the facts.
That song has absolutely NOTHING to do with this issue.

God loved the whole world, so He sent HIS SON to die for
our sins to save us, not just from the stain of sin, but the
power of sin over our lives, including the sin of homosexuality,
so that we could be saved from that lifestyle and the sin
of homosexuality will no longer have power over us!
We will be heterosexual, as God intended!
Hallelujah!
John 3; 16

Amos Moses #fundie #transphobia disqus.com

American4Truth:
If you "identity" as something that you are not, then you are mentally ill, Period!

swibily:
Doesn't it require a mental health professional to make a diagnosis like that?

Amos Moses:
nope........

swibily:
Really, because I think it does. Otherwise it's an opinion.

Amos Moses:
and that is just YOUR opinion ........ so NOPE ........

swibily:
No, it isn't my opinion that making a medical diagnosis requires someone with medical credentials, so NOPE right back at you.

Amos Moses:
BUT .... it is JUST YOUR OPINION that this is a MEDICAL DIAGNOSIS ...... and FYI ..... NO "medical credentials" are required ....... so NOPE .......... it is however a SPIRITUAL diagnosis ..... and YOU are not qualified to make it .......... YUP .........

swibily:
You are not qualified to give a spiritual nor a medical diagnosis. I'm not providing either, just saying that if someone makes such a pronouncement they better have medical proof to back it up.

Amos Moses:
"You are not qualified to give a spiritual nor a medical diagnosis."

and again ..... THAT IS JUST YOUR OPINION ......... so who cares .... YOU are not qualified to judge if it is SPIRITUALLY diagnosed correctly as you reject those things ....... and we do not REQUIRE YOUR PERMISSION to do so ..... so NOPE .......... whatta ya gonna do about it hot shot ......... you and your multiple SOCK ACCOUNTS ..... and all of your ~200 comments here ........... DIDDLY .........

swibily:
I'm not here to argue with you. The bottom line is you cannot call something a mental illness if you're not in an intellectual position to make such a diagnosis.

Amos Moses:
"The bottom line is you cannot call something a mental illness if you're not in an intellectual position to make such a diagnosis."
ROTFL AGAIN ......... ummm ... again .... YOU are not an AUTHORITY HERE ..... and it is JUST YOUR OPINION that it is a MEDICAL DIAGNOSIS ...... and despite your objections to it ..... YES ..... we certainly CAN ..... FYI ..... it is not a "medical diagnosis" here as this is not a medical setting ...... so BOO to you .... and as i said ..... whatta ya gonna do about it hot shot ......... you and your multiple SOCK ACCOUNTS ..... and all of your ~200 comments here ...... right ..... DIDDLY .........

swibily:
I’m not attempting to BE an authority. You are. You are the one calling everything a mental illness just because you want to call it that.

Amos Moses:
"I’m not attempting to BE an authority. You are." ..... ROTFL .... LIE ....
ummmm .... okay ..... NOPE ...... the one, the only and the FINAL AUTHORITY here is scripture ..... not MY OPINION ..... and NOT YOURS ............ when and IF you ever can prove anything you say or accuse others here arises to meet scripture ..... then maybe some of what you say may be proven true ...... but none of it has so far ..... as you reject God and scripture ........
"You are the one calling everything a mental illness just because you want to call it that."
more lies .........

swibily:
Why are you dragging in all this irrelevant mush? All I am saying is you aren’t a medical professional so you aren’t qualified to cite mental illness. Which is perfectly true. A religious person with an opinion is just that.

Amos Moses:
Okay where is YOUR evidence that i am not .... right .... you have none .... and .... YOU constantly try to assert yourself as authority here .... AS YOU JUST DID .... with your assertion about my education .... and you LIED as you did so .... so NOT "irrelevant mush" ..

swibily:
Where did you obtain your Ph.d. from?

Amos Moses:
so you understand that to ask that question is a DIRECT admission that you have no evidence and that you lied ..... so thnx for your admission of guilt ...... and that is also an admission you are again trying to assert YOUR authority as if you had any to demand it be proven one way or the other and that you have again admitted that you lied that YOU do not try to assert authority here ... again ..... thnx for your admission ......
and to answer your question ...... nunya ... as in none of your business .... and my question to you is ..... WHY do you think you get to ask a person to DOX themselves in a public forum ..... and if you think that is not a big deal ...... ANSWER YOUR OWN question and DOX yourself ............
FYI ..... you have yet to prove such documentation is a requirement for anything outside of a medical setting ...... and you have to prove that just because a person has an alphabet behind their name that they are competent to determine anything especially in the field of inquiry they profess to be "expert" ............ see ..... that is ALSO an authority issue ..... and YOU are again asserting that as authority .....

swibily:
It isn’t about me.
I’m not making scientific claims.
That would be YOU doing that.
Problem is, you have no qualifications.

Amos Moses:
you are not a man (or woman) under authority ...... and therefore you have no authority ....... "Problem is, you have no qualifications." ..... you are not a competent judge to make that assessment ......... AND THAT IS A CLAIM YOU MADE .......

swibily:
None of this is about me, it’s about you calling things mental illness because you disapprove of them and not because they are actually mental illness. Unless you’d care to tell me where you got your Ph.d. from.

Amos Moses:
again .... trying to get a person to DOX themselves ... so ... YOU FIRST .... but the fact is YOU HAVE NO AUTHORITY to make any demand .... nor is your demand even worth considering as you have not PROVEN YOUR CLAIM that a FUD (Ph.D) is a requirement here or that it is a requirement OUTSIDE a medical setting ..... SO FIRST ...... PROVE YOUR CLAIM .........

swibily:
I do not require authority to request authority. I would not get on an airplane if I didn't know the pilot was qualified to fly the plane. I don't need authority to make such a request.

Amos Moses:
"I do not require authority to request authority."
sure ... request DENIED ........ you have no authority here .......... i do not grant you any authority ever and there is no one here able to grant it to you ..... the AUTHORITY here is scripture ... learn to use it and be under it ..... or take a hike .....
FYI .... i do not know what kind of an airplane you are referring to .... but if you get on a passenger jet ... and ask to see the pilots credentials .... i think the pilot would ask to see your credentials first i.e. your FAA credentials (AUTHORITY) .... and if you had none he or she would tell you to get off his plane ........... they are the captain ....... so nice bluff .....

swibily:
I don't have authority. I don't need it, and I am not using it. Understand that yet?
A patient doesn't need authority to request it of his doctor.
A passenger doesn't need authority to request it of his pilot.
A student doesn't need authority to request it of his teacher.
You are being requested for authority because you are diagnosing things as "mental illness" but you are not a doctor.

Amos Moses:
"A patient doesn't need authority to request it of his doctor.
A passenger doesn't need authority to request it of his pilot.
A student doesn't need authority to request it of his teacher."
you can try and assert that authority ... they might grant it .... we have NO authority to grant YOU authority to judge scripture ..... DENIED ....
"You are being requested for authority because you are diagnosing things as "mental illness" but you are not a doctor."....
you have no authority to make that assessment ...... you would have to have GREATER OR EQUAL AUTHORITY to do so .... if you do not hold at least equal authority YOU are not a competent judge .....SO ....
where is YOUR authority .......

swibily:
No one's asserting authority by asking a question. You are having a hard time with that one, aren't you?

Amos Moses:
YUP .... you are asserting a desire to judge it .... you are not a competent judge ........

Amos Moses #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

(Amos continues to conflate homosexuality and narcissism, claiming scripture says so)

Amos Moses:
Romans (this entire passage is about NARCISSISM)
1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: (LESBIANS ADDRESSED)
1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. (HOMOSEXUALS ADDRESSED)
1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, (NARCISSISM ADDRESSED)
1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:(MORE NARCISSISM)
1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.(MORE NARCISSISM and the PENALTY)

SanGeronimo:
Not one of those passages LINKS narcissism with homosexuality, they are addressed as SEPARATE things. It is YOU who is attempting to link them. Your scripture IS NOT doing that.

Amos Moses:
they are discussed in the exact same part of scripture ...... and you are not a competent judge of scripture ............ they are not separate issues

SanGeronimo:
They are discussed in the exact same part of scripture. I don't DISPUTE that.
BUT THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING. If in some part of scripture they condemn murder and in the next sentence they condemn rape, does it mean rape and murder are the same thing? Are you always this obtuse?

Amos Moses:
they are inextricably linked ..........

SanGeronimo:
So a rapist is always a murderer too?

Amos Moses:
YUP .....

edwitness #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

Homosexuality holds a special distinction as sin because it is the only sin the Bible describes as being the result, and not the cause, of idolatry. Paul makes it clear that homosexuality is the end result a life of gross idolatry that causes God to give them over to a reprobate mind.

So after a long time of God trying to bring them out of their idolatry, God finally gives them over to a reprobate mind that fills them with all the things described in Rom.1:26-31.
"Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful"
Making them that even though they know that those who believe as they do are worthy of death, not only do them, but take pleasure in those who do them with them.
There is no sin like the sin of homosexuality. It is against nature and nature's God. It is full blown idolatry on display.

Lady Checkmate #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: “PERSECUTION: Christian-owned Bridal Shop Closes After Death Threats”

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Guest:
Walid Shoebat
The homosexual movement is the most hateful and most vile group in all of the Western world. The sodomites are supremacists; they believe that they have the superior lifestyle, a disposition and constitution more superior than the “others,” who they consider as inferior breeders. This is the ideology of sodomism.
Sodomism is the ideology of homosexual superiority, in which the homosexuals desire to usher in — through propaganda, violence and state coercion — a utopia in which homosexuality is seen as a supreme ideal, and those who believe in the conjugal union as is affirmed and established by the Christian Faith, are viewed and treated as enemies.
More at shoebat com

Lady Checkmate:
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Mick Williams:
I thought this might be Iraq at first glance. We’re getting more and more like the middle east in terms of hatred of Christians.

Conservative Protestant #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

Conservative Protestant:
Sticking a body part up where someone defecates from is just such a sick act. Anyone who can do that has a mental disorder and needs help. These people need help, they really do, something is wrong with them and most of the time they get harassed and persecuted instead of helped, it's all so sad.

Lucas Cranach:
So why are you talking about sodomy when the subject is homosexuality? How often do you think lesbians engage in sodomy?
This is your whole problem, you're looking only at a single sexual act between people of the same sex and ignoring the entire relationship which is no different than that of a straight couple. Would you focus on the sex life of a straight couple the way you are with a gay couple?

Conservative Protestant:
Well those are some ridiculous questions. So what do you suggest, only women can morally be homosexual? 42% of homosexuals are male, so that means 42% are sodomites, that's a huge percentage, but NOT the point.
“you’re looking only at a single sexual act between people of the same sex and ignoring the entire relationship which is no different than that of a straight couple”
The relationship without the sex is just friendship, and I have that with many other men. If you add sex to it, then the relationship is blasphemy. I can’t believe I even need to say that, it’s just so simple.
You have NO idea what I’m looking at, even though I’ve made it clear, I’m looking at what the Bible says.
You are an evil person (you admitted you are against God, see below), so you can’t understand ethics, morals, because without God what standard is there? The only morals there are come from God, otherwise it’s just everyone for themselves. You have your morals, I have mine, someone else has theirs, who’s to say which set of morals are the right ones? Only the Bible give a true set of moral guidelines.
Lucas Cranach -> Doug Bristow 3 days ago
“We don’t know if God is real”
Matthew 12:30 He who is not with Me is against Me
You said you don’t know if God exists, so you’re not for him, making you against him. Without God, you really have no clue of reality and this discussion will never go anywhere.

Lucas Cranach:
“The relationship without the sex is just friendship, and I have that
with many other men. If you add sex to it, then the relationship is
blasphemy. I can’t believe I even need to say that, it’s just so simple.”

And I can’t believe such an outrageous statement pours out of you and you aren’t completely appalled by your own lack of empathy. Do you not understand what the word “homosexual” means? Homo means same, sexual means sexual attraction. To call an entire group of human beings blasphemers because they can only fall in love with people of the same sex is beyond disgusting. And you want to talk about ethics and morals? Really?
My advice to you is to abandon your religion. It obviously hasn’t done you any favors.

WorldGoneCrazy #fundie disqus.com

Premise 1: If there is no God, then objective moral values do
not exist.
Premise 2: Objective evil exists.
Conclusion 1: Therefore, objective moral values DO exist.
Conclusion 2: Therefore, God exists.

A-theists affirm Premise 1:

“In a universe of blind physical forces and genetic replication,
some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won’t find any rhyme or reason in it, or any justice. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference— DNA neither knows nor cares. DNA just is. And we dance to its music.” (Richard Dawkins, River Out of Eden: A Darwinian View of Life (1995))

“Let me summarize my views on what modern evolutionary biology tells us loud and clear — and these are basically Darwin’s views. There are no gods, no purposes, and no goal-directed forces of any kind. There is no life after death. When I die, I am absolutely certain that I am going to be dead. That’s the end of me. There is no ultimate foundation for ethics, no ultimate
meaning in life, and no free will for humans, either.” A-theist William Provine

“The position of the modern evolutionist is that humans have an
awareness of morality because such an awareness of biological worth. Morality is a biological adaptation no less than are hands and feet and teeth. Considered as a rationally justifiable set of claims about an objective something, ethics is illusory. I appreciate when someone says, ‘Love thy neighbor as thyself,’ they think they are referring above and beyond themselves.
Nevertheless, such reference is truly without foundation. Morality is just an aid to survival and reproduction, . . . and any deeper meaning is illusory.” (Michael Ruse, “Evolutionary Theory and Christian Ethics,” in The Darwinian Paradigm (London: Routledge, 1989), pp. 262-269).

A-theists affirm premise 2 by pointing out how objectively "evil" Christians and the God of the Bible are.

Therefore, by identity with Premise 2, Conclusion 1 is achieved. Therefore, by Modus Tollens of Premise 1 and Conclusion 1, Conclusion 2 is achieved, and God exists. So, when you talk about how objectively "evil" Christians and their God is, you are unwittingly acknowledging His existence.

Happiness means EVERYTHING? Only under an a-theistic view. Certainly, Wilberforce was NOT happy when he was being mocked and laughed at and persecuted for being a "religious extremist" by wanting to end slavery. See the difference? Under a-theism, there really are no grounds for objective moral values and duties. Happiness really IS everything - and anyone who gets in the way of the narcissistic happiness of the a-theist should be trounced upon. And that is what we see with the Gaystapo.

temporary guest #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

I concede that, yes, most Americans do believe in equality. I will also tell you that most Americans don't give a rip about who is gay and who is not. Also, I'll tell you that LGBTQ activist do not believe in equality as they falsely claim while they destroy Christian businesses and lives.I will also tell you there is a world of difference between a homosexual who lives their life leaving other people and children alone and the LGBTQ activists who would turn America in to Sodom or Gomorrah in the proverbial New York heartbeat if they could ... starting with children (Ask the Boy Scouts Of America). Most Americans are sick and tired of what LGBTQ activism is doing to this country. Yes, I know there are gay people who are not involved in all that crap, but in case you missed it, I'm not talking about those folks. I also know what a pride filled, sanctimonious bully is, and every LGBTQ activist in the country is exactly that, and MOST Americans are sick and tired of the bullying crap dedicated to undermining the true strength of any stable culture, the family of one man, one woman and kids who know which one is which ... we are bone tired of LGBTQ activists telling us we have to embrace and celebrate their "pride", not to mention the repeated, intentional, money stealing and life destroying assaults on the business of Christian people for failing to do so.

I'm retired now. The reason I retired was that on my last job, in the break room, there was a story repeated every morning before work, every morning break, every lunch time and every afternoon break about a black football player who announce to the world that he was gay. I made the comment that I was sick and tired of people on the news day after day saying that it didn't matter if he is gay or not and if it didn't matter, it'd be great if they'd just move on and talk about something else. A fellow employee sitting next to me said "He's a hero!" And I said, "No, he's not. He's an opportunist whose going to make a fortune either playing football or by writing a book and playing the victim. Either way, for him, it's a win win situation and I'm tired of hearing it". For that, this individual reported me to human resources and threatened my job. I just happened to be ready to retire anyway, so I did. I made two mistakes: I failed to see the man as a hero just because he was black and I failed to see him as a hero just because he told the whole world he enjoys sexx with other men.

In addition to that, I could write volumes on how LGBTQ activists have been assaulting and undermining my country for decades now. Beginning with the coining of the falsely invented word "homophobia" which first appeared in the book "society and the healthy homosexual" where in the author asserted that men who don't embrace homosexuality are suffering from an un-natural fear of their own gender. That assertion is pure crap, but like all leftist bullies, the LGBTQ used the lie as a foundation to build castles in the air, and now they seek to make us all take up residency in that phony, fairy-tale utopian kingdom in the sky. So spare me your know-it-all crap about how loving and kind and decent LGBTQ activists are. I know better. To me, LGBTQ activists are just a bunch of bullying, subversive, morally delinquent, hetero-phobic pontificates who don't give a rip about anything but themselves. Just exactly as they are described in Romans Chapter One.

I have told you the truth, which, unlike yourself, I did not claim to be my truth, but instead Biblical truth. But you are too convinced that you know it all, you won't seriously consider any thing that disagrees with you. Like an old and foolish king who will no longer be admonished, you think your opinion is unassailable just because it's yours.

I happen to be one of those Americans who couldn't care less who is gay and who isn't .. so long as they leave me, my kids, my grand kids, everybody else's kids in the public schools, private businesses and my country alone. Honestly, do you think there is any chance of that, or do you think the rest of the country has it coming for not teaching our children to celebrate that kind of crappy "pride"?

I'll even go you one more: As a soldier back in the day, I would have preferred a gay man in a foxhole with me who would put up a hard fight than a straight man who wouldn't. Some things really are just "common sense". The problem is, like all bullying, pontificating political leftists, LGBTQ activists think common sense is a thought crime and defending it is a hate crime.

Further discussion is pointless. It makes no difference what you think you know about the Bible, how superior you think you are to it or why you think you are. Further discussion is pointless.

I'm just gonna block you. If you feel the need to argue the point more, may I suggest you do it looking in the mirror at someone who'll buy what you're handing out just because it's you handing it out.

Grace Kim Kwon #fundie disqus.com

Europe has very few fundamentalist Christians and the LGBT population does just fine out there and most people let them live their lives in peace. In Canada, the same thing is happening. I think what's happening here is that you want to control others with your rather rigid morality, and people are standing up to you. This utterly stupid idea that homosexuals are afflicted by "sick sins" is the reason your fundamentalists are NOT more popular, because that idea is completely contrary to what we learn from scientific EVIDENCE to the contrary. And as long as you remain science-phobic and proud of it, your ideas will remain unpopular.

The Western licentiousness hurts global children; it's nothing of private matter since the Western Sodomites have started demanding the unconditional submission. Read Leviticus ch.18-20. God destroyed the civilizations like the secular USA. They just had no Christian population. (Genesis ch.19) You are wrong about the Western Europe and Canada and Australia. The people were simply bribed and threatened and silenced and tamed by the government's free stuff. Freedom fighters were always minorities.

American Psychological Association is the crazy entity. USA is one of the most immoral nation on earth because of them; no one should listen to them. Read the Holy Bible for morality and sanity. Telling homosexuality is sin is what the LGBT people need to hear. Ronald, you are wrong. The West fell into the deadly error by applying racial equality upon the sexual depravity. Today's Americans would be labeled as the sickest sexual addicts the entire history has to testify. People dislike Christian theocracy because they are sinful sinners, but the child-abusing culture must be fixed by the Christian Church whether perv population likes it or not. At least in the West, Christians must not get bullied for speaking out God's truth. Liberty is for God's Word.

Brian Matthews #fundie #senpai_noticed_us #homophobia disqus.com

Brian Matthews:

You just made my day, telling me that I'm featured on one of your Christian bashing web sites. That truly makes me happy. I hope you'll post this over there, too.
"You make it sound like a prison sentence where any sign of openmindedness is punished."
And how do I do that? Is it because I don't tell you how wonderful you are, what with your Drag Queen Story Hours, and your Baskin Robbins approach to human sexuality?
Because I HATE the filth and perversion, the sick and twisted garbage, that you and your ilk are pushing on society, these days?
You like the fake Christians who go along with you for a little pat on the head. The one's who have sold their souls for just a little feigned acceptance from the cool kids.
I don't care one wit what you think of me. Christ told His followers that they would be hated, like He was. He told us to rejoice and be glad when people said bad things about us for His sake, for our reward in Heaven will be great because of it.
Yes, I am angry, but NOT full of self pity. I PITY YOU!
Nevertheless, I start out on low. I try to give your friends every opportunity to back up what they say, and they NEVER EVER do. They just start telling me what a meany I am. They can't even answer the simplest questions. That was the case with Gwen Mistelbacher, despite your misrepresentation of that exchange. I was the one who repeatedly tried to get her to answer my questions regarding her statements, and she continually refused, and kept attacking me.
I suppose Heaven will be like prison to you if you hate goodness, decency, and purity. On the other hand, if Heaven is anything like what you people are trying to make American society like, then I don't even want to go. You've turned this place into Hell.
Do you think it's a good thing that my young grand daughters have to share the restroom with grown men? If you do, you are truly twisted, and I have every reason to be angry about that. That's a prison sentence!
Don't talk to me about how I make Christianity look to you. You make your worldview look like wicked madness to me, which it is.
And YES, you are lost. Why would you think you're the exception? Do you think you're better than everyone else in the world?
You don't even need Christians, or the Bible to see it, just look around. If you can't see that there is something seriously wrong with the whole human race, you're out of touch with reality. The very fact that we are arguing is itself an indicator that something is wrong.
Look at all the violence, the chaos, the rage, the sexual abuse, the hate, filth, greed, addictions, wars, etc.
The whole human race is broken, and in need of redemption. You're not special. That's what Christ came for.
The whole human race has been condemned long before Christ was even born. You aren't going to be condemned because you were just a good little boy just going along, minding your own business, until God, wanting to make you jump through some arbitrary hoop demanded, for no apparent reason, for you to believe in Christ or perish. That's not at all how it works. That's just another Satanic lie.
That would be like a drowning man getting mad at me for setting arbitrary conditions, just because I threw him a life preserver, and told him to grab it. He wasn't drowning because he didn't want the life preserver, he was ALREADY drowning! The life preserver was for his salvation.
Christ is that life preserver. Humanity was already drowning before he came along. You're not going to get condemned for rejecting Him, you are already condemned. You are just going to pass up salvation by rejecting Him. BUT, since you're that one perfect human being in the world, I guess you've got nothing to worry about.

Mario Vercotti:
FSTDT isn't a Christian bashing site. It takes the absolute worst elements of extreme religion, racism and sexism and puts it on display. What you are about is not Christianity. What you are about is fundamentalism.
Brian, I don't HAVE drag queen story hours. I don't approve of exposing children of that age to drag queens until they reach an age of understanding ssexuality, period. You're taking the worst elements of the things that both you and projecting them on all atheists, or at least all people you hate. As for a "Baskin Robbins approach to human sexuality", no I don't. I don't say anything any more or less radical than what tested, accepted science tells us. There are homosexuals in this world. Let them be homosexuals and stop trying to "fix" them according to your religion. Just because you adopt a faith doesn't mean you get to inflict it on those who choose not to follow it.
I don't have any "filth" or "sick and twisted garbage". If you think someone's sick and twisted garbage because they're born homosexual, YOU are the sick one - science will tell you so too - and you need to deal with your own demons.
"You like the fake Christians who go along with you for a little pat on the head."
And who are THOSE, Brian? What's a fake Christian, and HOW DARE YOU call them so just because you can't agree with them? And how do you ever come to understand them if you BLOCK them as you do everyone you seem to encounter here? How do you even function in the real world with a rotten attitude like that?
Yes, you are full of self-pity. Poor you, who can't understand why the rest of the world doesn't want to heap scorn and hatred on people not exactly like you are.
"I try to give your friends every opportunity to back up what they say, and they NEVER EVER do."
I've seen what you do. You frame a question in such a way that you want a VERY specific answer, which people either don't have the patience to figure out what you want, or is impossible to answer, and they don't do it, and you block them. What the hell is the matter with you? Gwen didn't refuse, her last request as to what your question was was entirely respectful. You mocked her for not knowing and blocked her, which takes real cowardice.
NO I don't think it's good that your granddaughters have to share a restroom with grown men. You never asked me. You assumed the worst, Brian. That's what you do. The thing is, normal homosexuals wouldn't disagree with you either but you find them so revolting in concept you don't even give them the time of day.
The whole human race isn't "broken". You just see things in it you don't like, and are demanding they be fixed YOUR way, with intolerance and hatred and anger. I look at the things in this world that I don't like and ask questions, forge relationships, and work positively to solve them. I don't say "well you don't belong to the same faith I do so get lost sinner". Does that sound like anyone YOU know, Brian?
And for the love of God stop calling people and situations "Satanic" just because they aren't exactly what you want them to be. There are a million other reasons to explore before you need to start invoking a Satan most people don't even believe in.
If you can't live peacefully with people who believe differently than you do, you deserve all the name calling you have incurred.
Now you're going to block me, and I will be vindicated.

Knowledge Transfer #wingnut #homophobia disqus.com

You opened up the convoluted diversion when you [not me[ said: "COMPLETELY unlike a same-sex adult consensual relationship which harms no one"!

My responses were then employed to pulverize that lie because same sex consensual relationships harm everyone especially when others are forced to accept the normalcy of such abnormal, unnatural and unhealthy relationships.

As an example, here is just one of the malevolent goals: "Present homosexuality, promiscuity and degeneracy as normal, natural and healthy." Homosexuality automatically includes promiscuity and degeneracy in one stench ridden package like a 3 point play in basketball...one shot three points.

Just a few questions: 1) if homosexuality was normal; natural; and healthy, why pray tell would it ever need to be presented as if it were normal, natural and healthy; wouldn't such presentations be superfluous? 2) if homosexuality was normal, natural and healthy, why pray tell is the cited goal above one of the 45 goals within the Communist Takeover of America given that Communism seeks to destroy America from within on its way to one world Godless; soulless; family destroying; life hating; sodomy saluting; wealth redistributing world rule?

Brian Matthews #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

Brian Matthews:
The Gospel of Jesus Christ isn't superstition. It's mankind's only hope, so you'd better accept that, or you're doomed.
Not all discrimination is wrong. Liberals use the D word as a bludgeon against truth, and morality. You use words like discrimination, bigot, racist, homophobe, etc. to SILENCE opposition to your wickedness.
As I said, the law isn't always right and good. Just ask a holocaust survivor.
And, yes, they have done something to make themselves that way. They chose their feelings over objective truth. They've deliberately rejected reality, and instead of changing themselves to conform to reality, they want to change reality to conform to them. They say they can't change, but they want the rest of us to do so. Well, I can't change either. I was born again by the Holy Spirit, and like my first birth, it wasn't something I did, nor is it something I can undo.
Not every thought, desire, impulse, or inclination is good and right. A kleptomaniac has to do something about his problem. He can't just say, "well that's just how I am". He can't just accept it.
We are all fallen, and broken. We are all born sinners. God provided a remedy for that, though.
Repent, and believe the Gospel.

Swampy:
I'm not talking about the Gospel of anybody, I'm talking about your ugly words.
I use words like "discrimination", "bigot", "racist", "homophobe" etc. to show people a mirror of how ugly their words sound to normal people.
It's true the law isn't always right. But in this case it is. And people would oppose it loudly if it weren't.
Your words tell me you understand nothing about BOTH homosexuality and empathy. There is no objective truth for one thing, it's all subjective, and no homosexual "chooses" feelings over any such thing. Did YOU choose your feelings towards your significant other? Of course you didn't, so why would it be different for a homosexual? And they aren't rejecting reality. Their reality isn't YOUR reality, that's all. If you're hopelessly locked into a religion that hates homosexuals, that's a choice you have made and you're going to be taken to task for it.
Your decision to compare a kleptopmaniac to a homosexual is for what reason? A kleptomaniac has a problem. A homosexual does not.
Homosexuals might have sins like everyone else, but their attraction to the same gender which they didn't choose and have no control over is not one of them.

Brian Matthews:
Are you really serious? Is this really how your mind works? You're not just pulling my leg?
You don't see anything wrong with what you posted? No logical problems at all?
This has got to be some kind of a joke that I'm not getting.

Swampy:
I can't tell if you're really incredulous over this simple statement of facts which should be surprising to nobody, or if you're feigning it to give off a sense of false outrage. Anyway, no. Read the American Psychological Association's page entitled "Answers to Your Questions for a Better Understanding of Sexual Orientation and Homosexuality" if you're genuinely interested.

Brian Matthews:
Oh, you are serious.
No, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. I don't want to believe people are this stupid.
And why would I read a bunch of lies, and propaganda?

Swampy:
Oh, you're an anti-science asshole. Well, you should have just said so from the beginning.
As a wise man once said, "The nice thing about science is it's true whether you believe it or not." But by all means, stick to your poisonous hateful theology and continue to marginalize all the people you hate using your holy book to justify it. Because YOU KNOW that is all you are doing.

Piltdown911 #fundie #conspiracy #homophobia disqus.com

Piltdown911:
So the moon is made of green cheese, Selenography is science.
It is a known fact that American Psychological Association was "lobbied" by pro-gay people to get what they wanted.

Jennifer Joyce:
Selenography is the study of the surface and physical features of the Moon. The green cheese part is all yours, not science.
Gay people did lobby the APA, but that's not why the APA made changes. The APA made changes because of better data. Science doesn't care what people want.

Piltdown911:
Science denier.
"What’s noteworthy about this is that the removal of homosexuality from
the list of mental illnesses was not triggered by some scientific breakthrough. There was no new fact or set of facts that stimulated this major change. Rather, it was the simple reality that gay people started to kick up a fuss." - Behaviorism and Mental Health

Jennifer Joyce:
Science denier?
This is from dictionary dot com.
selenography: the branch of astronomy that deals with the charting of the moon's surface.
See? No mention of green cheese. That's you, that's not science.
And your quote isn't from Behaviorism and Mental Health, it by a bigot named Phil Hickey who wrote a long-debunked tommyrot called "Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away".
From the National Library of Medicine: "In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) removed the diagnosis of “homosexuality” from the second edition of its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM). This resulted after comparing competing theories, those that pathologized homosexuality and those that viewed it as normal. In an effort to explain how that decision came about, this paper reviews some historical scientific theories and arguments that first led to the placement of homosexuality in DSM-I and DSM-II as well as alternative theories that eventually led to its removal from DSM III and subsequent editions of the manual."
Obviously "this paper" is too long to reproduce here, but since you've shown how good you are at manipulating data, you should have no trouble with a simple google search. Simply look for "Out of DSM: Depathologizing Homosexuality".

Piltdown911:
How good I am at manipulating data?
Answer this, why is there always a male and female role in gay relationships? Don't insult yourself by denying there is, I've seen it repeatedly.
Homosexuality is a deviance no different that pedophilia.

2marktime2 #homophobia disqus.com

"People don't become homosexual because of traumatic events from childhood. Look at a book written later than 1950."

Which book do you suggest?

Have you read any book that researches the subject and discovered that all homosexuals interviewed have had a deficient relationship with their father and as a result have an identity problem which is the cause of their choice to adopt the homosexual way of life.

If they don't choose then every act of homosexuality is rape.

afchief #wingnut #homophobia disqus.com

afchief
“All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void.” —Marbury v Madison 1803.

Repugnant – distasteful, offensive, disgusting. Contradictory, incompatible, inconsistent.

Null - without value, effect, consequence, or significance.

Void - having no legal force or effect; not legally binding or enforceable; useless, ineffectual, vain.

Homosexuality is Repugnant. It is Null. It is Void!!!!

Therefore, all laws inconsistent with the Constitution are without value or effect and have no legal force or effect and are useless, ineffectual and unenforceable.

Or, as Saint Augustine so aptly warned us, “an unjust law is no law at all.”

Valri
Homosexual relationships are two people of the same gender in a loving committed relationship to one another identical to a straight relationship. Only difference is they can't procreate.

"Repugnant" is just your opinion. Clearly it's not "null and void" with so many millions of people in homosexual relationships that work.

afchief
Nope! There is nothing normal, natural or right about homosexuality. It is deviant, perverted, and a mental disorder. It is sick!!! It is unclean!!! It is gross!!!

Valri
Mental disorder? What century are you living in?

afchief
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TheKingOfRhye
Do you realize you quoted the case that established judicial review? You know, the thing you supposedly hate so much that says the Supreme Court gets to rule that laws are unconstitutional?

afchief
Wrong! Let me ask you a question: If the government passed a law saying that parents had the right to kill their three year old sons, would that be a valid, just law? Would we be duty bound to follow it?

If the government passed a law that said that workers were entitled to keep 10% of what they earned and that the rest was to be “withheld” by your employer and given to the government, would it be a valid law? What if they said you could keep 70% and the government got the rest? Where do we draw the line?

What if the “court” rules that a man had the legal right to marry his favorite animal? What if they told us that we could marry as many different species as we wanted? What if they told us that sex with 10 year olds was “legal” and, in fact, some scumbag down the road had the right to “marry” your 10 year old 5th grader without your approval? What if they declared that school principals were even allowed to conduct the ceremonies during school hours? Would that make it right?

A “decision” or “opinion” by a court is not law? Congress makes laws. Courts render opinions. Opinions are—opinions. Judges give their opinions of what they think the law says.

A COURT DECISION IS NOT A LAW!! Do you understand that?

David van Heerden #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

"Homosexuality is not violence. And even the Westboro Baptist church, as hate-filled an organization as they are, don't advocate killing. Your comment is nauseating and vile."

Not violence? So the abuse of children is by their consent, and drugs and alcohol play no part in recruitment? Even if your fiction were true, it would still be a nauseating and vile fiction.

"Why are you trying to claim that abuse of children is the fault of homosexuals?"

You're pathetic. You know it's true, but you pretend that there's a question. I blame their parents, the toxins in the water, the government system that failed them, the church and little green men from Mars, but it would clearly be absurd to suggest sexual acts on children by homosexuals are the fault of the homosexuals. And such acts have not been heard of since the ancient Greeks, because people are so much better now than then because they have grindr.

WorldGoneCrazy #fundie disqus.com

I have a great secular proof for the existence of Hell, David - no Bible required - just some sophomore level logic, maybe a little higher level:

1. Every natural innate human desire has a corresponding satisfying object in reality. (e.g., thirst has the object of water, hunger has the object of food, love has the object of persons and dogs, knowledge has the object of reality perceived through our five senses plus the enormous complexity-resolving hardware and software of our brain, etc) (observation and human experience)

2. Humans possess a natural innate desire for objective moral justice to be satisfied. (the existence of laws, police forces, and prison; also, human psychology; in fact, this desire is so strong that even many atheists will utter the phrase “Go to Hell”)

3. Therefore, objective moral justice exists. (1,2 Modus Ponens)

4. If objective moral justice exists, then it exists for everyone – otherwise, it would not be objective, moral, or justice. (definition of objective moral justice)

5. Therefore, objective moral justice exists for everyone. (4,3 Modus Ponens)

6. If objective moral justice exists for everyone, then it must exist in this life or a potential afterlife for everyone. (complete disjunction on potential human existence)

7. Therefore, objective moral justice must exist in this life or an afterlife for everyone. (6,5 Modus Ponens)

8. For some persons, objective moral justice is not satisfied in this lifetime. (e.g., Hitler, Stalin, Mao, unrepentant abortion "doctors," abortuary deathscorts, etc) (observation regarding heinous atrocities whose perpetrators never received OMJ in this life)

9. Therefore, for some persons, objective moral justice is satisfied in an afterlife. (7,8 simple cancellation)

10. Therefore, objective moral justice exists in an afterlife, i.e., Hell exists. (existential generalization)

(Special thanks to the following atheist-agnostics, and others unnamed, who provided constructive criticisms helping me to identify hidden steps: Elie, markb, Unrepentant Atheist, and Disqusdmnj. Any remaining errors are mine and mine alone.)

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "A teacher exposes the LGBT agenda coming into in elementary schools"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QYifNmanpA&app=desktop

Babyangel:
well.. if you look back it used to be taboo someone who was openly gay or was transgender but now seems like someone is either LGBT i think not everyone is really that way they just want to go along with something that seems to be popular ?
LGBT stuff doesnt belong in elementry schoools

Oxford Martyrs:
Parents need to seriously consider taking their children out of public school and either home school or place them in a Christian school. There is a war on for the minds of our children. If we lose this battle we lose our children. That is reality.

Ted120:
Oh ya it's coming , with democrats pushing hard

Amos Moses #homophobia #pratt disqus.com

"the evidence is EMPIRICAL"

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Same goes for the use of ellipses, by the way.

"Take a number of homosexuals, both sexes, put the males on one island,
put the females on another island ........give them anything they want
or desire ..... deprive them of nothing ALLOW THEM TO EXPRESS THIER
DESIRE FOR ONE ANOTHER ..... unrestricted and outside of anyones
judgement ............ but they cannot leave and they cannot have the
opposite sex ...... come back in 60 years ...... nothing will be left
........ society DIES .........."
Heterosexuals of just one sex would not last longer either.
Also, I "love" the assumption here that the ONLY way to contribute to society is reproduction...

"Heterosexuals of just one sex would not last longer either."

Heteros .... DO NOT DESIRE THEIR OWN SEX ....... the object is to GIVE THEM THEIR DESIRES ..... and most homosexuals will tell you that the opposite is ABHORRENT to them .......

"Also, I "love" the assumption here that the ONLY way to contribute to society is reproduction..."

it is not an assumption ...... if you FAIL to make new members to replace the ones that die ..... THERE IS NO SOCIETY ............

1. Homosexuals do not want their own society without the other sex, they want to be an accepted part of society and be allowed to love who they love.

2. Way to miss the point I wrote IN ALL CAPS!
Of course reproduction needs to happen for society to survive. However, it should be self-evident that this is not all there is to society. Furthermore, humanity's population is very, very, very far from the point where a few people not reproducing would risk extinction for the species.
What about a couple who are childless (possible even without a choice on that matter due to infertility), but adopt an orphan and raise the child as if it was their own? Have they not contributed to society?

"they want to be an accepted part of society and be allowed to love who
they love."

it is not love ..... it is NARCISSISM ..... love does no harm to another ..... EVERYTHING the homosexual does harms themselves, their"partners", their families, and society in general ....... what they want is irrelevant ....... what they do is relevant ......... and what they want DESTROYS society .......