Neo #fundie #conspiracy #dunning-kruger

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Note: Neo is Burlyman under a different account, also woodchip is the one being reasonable for a change

Woodchip: As to the flat earther thing, two simple things easily disprove it. Sit on a beach and watch a ship sail away. If earth is flat it will get smaller until it is the size of a dot. If Earth is round the ship will appear to be sinking as it gets further away.
2nd test is get on a plane and fly in a straight line. Do you come to a edge or do you come back to where you started from?

Neo: You're forgetting about atmospheric refraction. Just take a Nikon whatever model camera that people were buying and zoom in and the ship will come right back to you.

As for the airplanes, they don't continue to fly straight because: 1) people might catch on, and 2) they'd eventually crash into the firmament. Some flights are straight lines and they aren't on globe earth. How are you supposed to land a plane on a ball that constantly spins under you? You'd have to keep adjusting and try to land straight on the runway but the earth would keep turning and you'd crash. Flat Earth makes helicopters work the way we see them and it makes vertical take off and landing possible.

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Hawker Siddeley Harriers and Lockheed F-35Bs can land as a conventional aircraft does.

You forgot about that, Barelyman.

How are you supposed to land a plane on a ball that constantly spins under you? You'd have to keep adjusting and try to land straight on the runway but the earth would keep turning and you'd crash.

Because the atmosphere, as it is attached to the ball, is also spinning.

Well, this Neo (who apparently ate the lead paint pill instead of either the blue or red pills. I imagine he just had them and Morpheus was very disappointed) can do a experiment to disprove his own fallacious point. While in a train, plane, or automobile, get a ball. Toss it in the air and watch as it comes back down in your hand. It doesn't really matter how fast any of them are going. That is how the atmosphere acts with the planes and helicopters to allow them (and anything else) to move about no problem. They don't need to try to "catch the ground" or anything stupid like that.

That aside, people can buy a plane and fly it. If you get enough idiots together, just buy a plane, take off and fly as far as you can (or use a boat). That way you don't even need to hire a pilot since apparently every songle one is "obviously in on it." Also, I've seen it joked about that pilots would have to constantly tilt their planes forward on a round Earth, wouldn't they constantly have to veer left or right on a flat one, which they don't?

As for refraction, you're an idiot. You won't see "all" of it, and it will still vanish eventually. Plus there is no reason why atmospheric refraction that would make an object vanish from view would go bottom up instead of simply making it too tiny all over to see, as Woodchip said. And Mountains and other huge structures shouldn't really be able to leave your view the same reason a tiny (comparatively. Some are huge) boat would.

Plus, if you believe in a flat Earth the sky aould always be visible. There is no reasonable way to explain daylight, or the fact that someone in Australia, Africa, and South America can all look due South and see the same things.

Just take a Nikon whatever model camera that people were buying

I’ve actually heard a few flat earthers before talking about their Nikon cameras in particular and how in various ways they can be used to show supposed evidence of a flat earth. I’m guessing because Nikon makes good shit? lol, I wouldn’t really know. They were referenced in the song “Kodachrome” by Paul Simon, anyway….

@TheKingOfRhye #169961

I heard about that, too. It was even down to a specific model. I think Kodak cameras tend to produce some specific glitch which flerfs like to use as “proof”

Neo: “We Flat Earthers know science! We have the BEST science! Noone knows science like we know science!”

Apparently aircraft carriers don’t exist according to flat-earthers, because you just can’t land on a moving target right?

@WhiteNoise #169991

Maybe Navy jets have built-in magnets which help guide them down onto the carrier when landing.

“Neo: You're forgetting about atmospheric refraction. Just take a Nikon whatever model camera that people were buying and zoom in and the ship will come right back to you.”

Um… Cameras work on light. If the atmosphere is refracting the image of the distant ship to the eyeball, it’s going to refract the image to the camera.

Also, if a Nikon can visually capture the hull of a ship that’s gone over the horizon, how do you know it’s not atmospheric refraction bending that image around the globe?

“As for the airplanes, they don't continue to fly straight because: 1) people might catch on, and 2) they'd eventually crash into the firmament.”

That would require that everyone who gets a pilot’s license is in on the Flat Earth conspiracy. Seriously, they can’t ever let you fly if you might take into your head to fly into the firmament, right? So all you Flat Earthers gotta do is get a license. At some point in the training or the testing, mention your intention to fly around the world, see what they do. The publish that.

“Flat Earth makes helicopters work the way we see them and it makes vertical take off and landing possible.”
Never saw a video of a helicopter trying to land on a destroyer, i take it? You can adjust for movement of your target.

Fun fact: every time anyone mentions that you can catch a westbound flight from California to Australia, they either claim that those flights flat-out don’t exist, or they claim the windows on planes are just video screens (despite being able to see inside them from outside), or they insist that the planes circle around and travel the entire distance in an impossible amount of time.

Of course, no flat-earther has ever TRIED to take a flight from California to Australia. Funny, that.