[Plagiarized from a website] One of the biggest problems with atheism is the ultimate conclusion one must make with regard to morality. If there is no God, there is no moral giver. No moral-giver, no morals. No morality, nothing wrong with killing. Stepping on a roach and killing a baby=same thing without morals.
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"No God, no moral giver"
Didn't you have parents?
Yeah, 'cause... I don't have to obey to any rules because there's no skydaddy to dictate what I'm supposed to do.
Srsly, what does fundies think that cold feeling in their gut after they've done something they shouldn't, is?
" If there is no God, there is no moral giver"
God's the moral giver?
Is this the same god who said it's okay to sell slaves and stone people to death?
Some moral giver.
The absence of moral absolutes is not a downside to atheism, it's an upside. Without a "God" to dictate morality, people are free to make their own rules provided that they are capable of doing so and don't simply take on some other external source as a new "God".
If there is no gods, there is no gods. End of story.
Atheist still have to follow the laws.
Nobody has ever told me that it's bad to kill people because gods say so. They told me that it's bad to kill people because then they are dead. Their families will miss them, they will no longer be able to contribute to society. Plus, evolution says it's bad to kill your own species.
Whereas, if you do believe in a god, you can perform any act and say it was "god's will." As evidence, I submit the Book of Joshua from the bible.
The moral giver is inside us normal decent humans, NoahK. It's called a conscience. It was evolved due to us being social animals who had to cooperate to survive. I know this must be hard to understand for a sociopath like you, who only stay away from killing, maiming, raping and stealing out of fear of a big bully in the sky.
Morals like the god of the old testament? "No morality, nothing wrong with killing", like this?
1 Samuel 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
Numbers 31:17: Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. (we won't even discuss keeping the 32000 virgins alive to be raped later)
I wonder how "moral" the Amalekites thought your god was...as they were being murdered...
“One of the biggest problems with atheism is the ultimate conclusion one must make with regard to morality.”
Say what you will about atheism, but argument from consequences does not mean that there actually is a god.
"If there is no God, there is no moral giver.”
Well, no ABSOLUTE moral giver, no. But even in a godless universe, we still have the Bible. SOMEONE came out with a list of morals.
Slavery is good, rape is a property dispute, blame women for everything… Do you really WANT those morals to be from the guy that’s judging your eternity?
"No moral-giver, no morals.”
I thought you were bitching about atheism, not nihilism.
“No morality, nothing wrong with killing.”
As a gregarious species, we have to have rules like 'murder bad’ just to allow us to congregate in large numbers. Even wihtout a divine sponsor of those rules.
“Stepping on a roach and killing a baby=same thing without morals.”
Argument from absurdity, too?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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